The actual current hierarchy of Category:Stub categories is available here: /Current
This is the current proposed hierarchy. The following criterias are observed:
Major categories
Other
(Won't be deleted if a wikiproject is using them)
I think fest should remain under reli, as many fests are reli; but should also be elsewhere. And I don't think entertainment is a suitable "elsewhere". — msh210 16:11, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
In general, I find that listing stub categories under other stub categories is a useful thing that should be done wherever appropriate. (Someone could easily put a religious festival into Category:Religion stubs without realizing that fest-stub exists.) It helps to keep things organized—as much as is currently possible, at least. - Aranel ("Sarah") 20:11, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Currently moving to lang-stub
How about Template:Poet-stub to start breaking up Template:Writer-stub? (Obviously some writers who write poetry would still fit better under writers in general.) And/or Template:Poetry-stub to start breaking up Template:Lit-stub? - Aranel ("Sarah") 00:20, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed quite a number of motorcycle stubs... are there enough for a Mbike-stub? (Oh, and while on the subject of vehicles, I've re-worded the road-stub template slightly to reflect the fact that most of the articles with the stub are about roads, not road transport!) Grutness| hello? 10:14, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Sorry to have so many, but anyone whos been sorting much lately will be as frustrated as i am with over a page of unncategorisable stubs, anyway:
Friend of Dorothy dont like these articles - but they've got to go somewhere
Icepick dont like the idea of this one, as a lot of random stuff will be put together, but where else do these things go.
I don't have too many examples (just two) - Namboothiris and Ezhava (which isn't marked as a stub yet). Right now Namboothiris is marked as a India related Religion stub. I think it would be better categorized as an Anthropology stub. So basically any article that is "anthropology related". Vivin Paliath (വിവിന് പാലിയത്) 17:03, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
There's so much digimon cruft on wikipedia that I'm surprised that we don't already have a digimon stub category. DaveTheRed 06:11, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
A suggestion... once we've all stopped sifting through the bio and geo stubs, the next section that might be worth a look is poli-stubs. there are over 2000 of them. A rough estimate is that about 1/4 of those are political parties and movements, which could possibly do with their own stub category. other than that, it may be another case of sorting by country. Any thoughts? Grutness| hello? 10:20, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Last update on stub counts ... Category:Television stubs 296 versus Category:Television series stubs 582. Courtland 03:32, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC)
Ooops, I'm sorry; I only discovered this page after I'd created the stub. I did it because there was nothing appropriate for articles related to radio programmes (obviously). If it needs to be deleted until after discussion, could some friendly admin do that please? Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης) 12:23, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
We've got an Ancient Egypt stub, and there seem to be a LOT of Ancient Rome stubs, most of which are either getting put in the various european geo-stub categories or into bio-stub. I reckon a Roman-stub or Romanus-stub might not be a bad idea (not Rome-stub, just in case someone wants to sort stubs on the city. Egypt-stub, for ancient Egypt, was an unfortunate name). There might be enough for Ancient Greece to get a stub too, but Rome seems to crop up more often. Grutness| hello? 10:10, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
As a way to segregate Category:Chemistry stubs into at least one smaller slice, I've created Category:Chemical reaction stubs and the corresponding template and listed this on the Stub Types page; I'll go about populating it momentarily. Any suggestions as to rewording of stub or category are welcome. Courtland 03:17, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
I mentioned this need for this here (came across a lot of these while re-sorting people stubs), but failed to notice there was a formal proposal process -- my bad. So consider this a proposal to retro-approve this, forgive my procedural lapse, and correct the various wiki errors I've made in creating the template Template:Russia-bio-stub. (But be gentle, it's my first time...) Alai 04:47, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
There are now three and a half thousand UK-geo-stubs. There's also already a NI-geo-stub for Northern Ireland. A logical solution would be to make stubs for Wales and Scotland, to at least ease the strain on the main category (if there's a London WikiProject, then that could probably be pared off, too). Thoughts? Grutness| hello? 07:18, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Need a couple suggestions as to slicing up the Medicine stubs category. My thinking ...
Category:Disease stubs (~several hundred) ...
Category:Medical Sign stubs (~100) (they use 'sign' rather than 'symptom' in the medicine realm here .. interesting a sign is an objective observation associated with a disorder, while a symptom is a subjective one; pain is a symptom while decrease in range of motion (perhaps due to pain) is a sign) ...
Category:Cancer stubs (~100) as a child of the "diseases" stubs. More thoughts?
Courtland 06:49, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC) addenda
Courtland 18:45, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
P.S. I'm double-stubbing some medical and medical treatment stubs to the "tool stubs", like Electric toothbrush ... the picture of pliers associated with a dental-related article is an amusing unanticipated side-effect :) . Courtland 06:49, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC)
Based on the rate of potential classification to this stub I've found in going through -A- general med-stubs, I'm going to create this template and category and place it on the 'stub types' listing. This will be {{ medsign}} and Category:Sign (medicine) stubs. Courtland 18:50, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
Also based on the rate of potential classification to this stub I've found in going through -A- general med-stubs, I'm going to create this template and category and place it on the 'stub types' listing. This will be {{ cancer-stub}} and Category:Cancer stubs. Courtland 18:50, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
For drugs and other things related to pharmacology. I have already created the stub (and its articles), because I haven't seen the instructions before. If anyone objects or if there are procedural problems, remove it of course. The proposed template would be {{pharma-stub}} , as this is unambiguous and easy to remember. -- Eleassar777 21:29, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I meant this to be part of the pharma-stub discussion, but it can (and should) stand alone Courtland 18:30, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC) There's some splitting that can be done with the treatment-stub that could help some. For instance, creation of a {{ surgery-stub}} could split out ~30%; replacement of {{ treatment-stub}} with {{ CAM-stub}} in some cases => ~10%; creation of a {{ meds-stub}} could take care of most of the rest; thereafter, {{ treatment-stub}} could probably be retired. The {{ meds-stubs}} would cover the clinical pharmacology aspect of pharmacology, then the {{ pharma-stub}} could handle the rest. Is this consistent with what you're thinking? Courtland 15:41, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC)
I would like to propose the implementation of Template:beer-stub (I created it already, but have not yet used it). This would be used in association with beer and brewery articles that fall under the WikiProject Beer. Some of the following articles seem like likely candidates at the moment (many more will follow as the project gets underway):
The creation of this as a merger of Angel- and Buffy-stubs is done. See information below. — Courtland 03:07, 2005 Mar 29 (UTC)
A part of the Transportation stubs. There are ones for trams, Vans and Railways. See Network Colchester for difficulties in catogorising these types of Stubs. TAS 17:08, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm beginning to wonder whether a currency and coinage stub (money-stub) would make a good subcategory of econ-stub, for articles like Augustalis, Barbados dollar, Ducat, and Egyptian pound. Thoughts? Grutness| hello? 09:36, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Okay - {{ money-stub}} is made and running. Grutness| hello? 04:19, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
And then there's colour/color (hence col-stub!). Azure (color), Bistre, Brunswick green, Cerise (color), Cream (color), Fire engine red... Grutness| hello? 05:34, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Created to solve several multi-stubbing problems with eastern European history articles (one of which was listed as a history-stub, lithuania-stub, belarus-stub, ukraine-stub AND russia-stub!) and because template {{Russia-stub}} seems too broad to the editors. "Eastern Slavic history stubs" cover mainly three East Slavic nations: Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, and, to a lesser degree, events related to the history of Lithuania and, sometimes, Poland (because there was an extended period when Poland and/or Lithuania politically dominated some of what's now Russia, Ukraine and Belarus). The stubs should apply to the articles related to the time when Russia, Ukraine and Belarus didn't yet form as nations of their own out of East Slavic proto-nation of the time of Kievan Rus and somewhat later. Also, some events of a later time are related to all or some of these nations and having an East-Slavic-history stub seems an approprate solution to the multi-stubbing problem. Russia-history-stub may or may not become a subcategory of East-Slavic-history stub. We should wait for consensus at Wikipedia talk:Russian wikipedians' notice board on that. Grutness| hello? 03:57, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC) and Irpen 04:48, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
Another subdivision on music-stub. I didn't create it because there aren't that many opera stubs, and a classical-composition-stub would be more useful (there are much more of those, including operettas). Still, it would be big enough to be of some use to a WikiProject or other interested parties. Any comments? -- grm_wnr Esc 18:23, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The category Category:Pitcairn-related stubs has 7 articles and 6 templates. The (very interesting) article on Pitcairn Islands says there are 5 islands but only one is inhabited. I believe there is a note somewhere to sort geographical stubs for this into Category:Oceania geography stubs. RJFJR 20:47, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)
Is there any real reason for having both Template:org-stub and Template:un-stub? I realise that the latter is explicitly for international organisations, but an awful lot of those with the org-stub template seem to be international, and only some 25 articles have un-stub. Either this needs tidying up and sorting out, or un-stub should go, IMHO. Grutness| hello? 09:50, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Just as an aside ... when I saw this conversation show up on my watch-list I thought "oh, a discussion about removing stub notices". Courtland 00:37, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)
Both currently listed on tfd and cfd - neither has been listed here, and Quebec-bio only has four articles. This one goes against current suggestions to further divide bio-stubs by nationality and occupation (by dividing by natonality and subnational region). Quebec-stub currently has about 20 items, but I doubt it could get anywhere close to the 50, 75, 100 suggestions elsewhere on WikiProject:stub sorting. Grutness| hello? 04:07, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Can we merge these into one Template:Rugby-stub? Category:Rugby union stubs is not that big (41 articles at present) and people who are unfamiliar with rugby (like me) are likely to find the distinction difficult to make. - Aranel ("Sarah") 00:31, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I know this was a case of be bold rather than follow procedure, but I noticed that most of the rugby-stubs were actually rugby league stubs, so I made RugbyLeague-stub, shifted everything over, then deleted Rugby-stub. All articles should say on them somewhere whether they relate to Union or League, so hopefully it will be obvious which of the two templates to use. If this was a bad move, and a merge is better, then merge is still possible from here. Grutness| hello? 09:17, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Do we need this one? It only has about a dozen articles, all of which are probably better served by station-stub or the like. There's also a completely unused Template:PBS Substub, which is on tfd. Grutness| hello? 07:10, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
One article ( RuneScape runes, which isn't even that stubby) plus the template. We could merge with Template:Cvg-stub, or, better yet, unstub the article and delete the template. -- grm_wnr Esc 23:56, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Listed on WP:TFD and WP:CFD. -- grm_wnr Esc 21:44, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Anyone know anything about this one? It's for something called "Codename:Kids next door" and is used on two articles. The entire KND category (which for some reason Category: KND stubs is not a subcategory of) only has about 15 articles, so does it need a separate stub category rather than the planned Tv-animation-stub? Hugely popular series like Star Trek and Buffy, yes, I can understand stub categories for them, but I'm worried this one will open the floodgates... Grutness| hello? 09:08, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Created by an anon, and nothing links to it. Most likely a joke. Remuel 22:11, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't think these should be done away with altogether, merely merged into a new {{ buffyverse-stub}}, or redefine the current {{ Buffy-stub}}. This new template & category would take {{ fantasy-stub}} and {{ tvseries-stub}} as parents. Courtland 04:59, 2005 Mar 27 (UTC)
The actual current hierarchy of Category:Stub categories is available here: /Current
This is the current proposed hierarchy. The following criterias are observed:
Major categories
Other
(Won't be deleted if a wikiproject is using them)
I think fest should remain under reli, as many fests are reli; but should also be elsewhere. And I don't think entertainment is a suitable "elsewhere". — msh210 16:11, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
In general, I find that listing stub categories under other stub categories is a useful thing that should be done wherever appropriate. (Someone could easily put a religious festival into Category:Religion stubs without realizing that fest-stub exists.) It helps to keep things organized—as much as is currently possible, at least. - Aranel ("Sarah") 20:11, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Currently moving to lang-stub
How about Template:Poet-stub to start breaking up Template:Writer-stub? (Obviously some writers who write poetry would still fit better under writers in general.) And/or Template:Poetry-stub to start breaking up Template:Lit-stub? - Aranel ("Sarah") 00:20, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed quite a number of motorcycle stubs... are there enough for a Mbike-stub? (Oh, and while on the subject of vehicles, I've re-worded the road-stub template slightly to reflect the fact that most of the articles with the stub are about roads, not road transport!) Grutness| hello? 10:14, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Sorry to have so many, but anyone whos been sorting much lately will be as frustrated as i am with over a page of unncategorisable stubs, anyway:
Friend of Dorothy dont like these articles - but they've got to go somewhere
Icepick dont like the idea of this one, as a lot of random stuff will be put together, but where else do these things go.
I don't have too many examples (just two) - Namboothiris and Ezhava (which isn't marked as a stub yet). Right now Namboothiris is marked as a India related Religion stub. I think it would be better categorized as an Anthropology stub. So basically any article that is "anthropology related". Vivin Paliath (വിവിന് പാലിയത്) 17:03, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
There's so much digimon cruft on wikipedia that I'm surprised that we don't already have a digimon stub category. DaveTheRed 06:11, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
A suggestion... once we've all stopped sifting through the bio and geo stubs, the next section that might be worth a look is poli-stubs. there are over 2000 of them. A rough estimate is that about 1/4 of those are political parties and movements, which could possibly do with their own stub category. other than that, it may be another case of sorting by country. Any thoughts? Grutness| hello? 10:20, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Last update on stub counts ... Category:Television stubs 296 versus Category:Television series stubs 582. Courtland 03:32, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC)
Ooops, I'm sorry; I only discovered this page after I'd created the stub. I did it because there was nothing appropriate for articles related to radio programmes (obviously). If it needs to be deleted until after discussion, could some friendly admin do that please? Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης) 12:23, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
We've got an Ancient Egypt stub, and there seem to be a LOT of Ancient Rome stubs, most of which are either getting put in the various european geo-stub categories or into bio-stub. I reckon a Roman-stub or Romanus-stub might not be a bad idea (not Rome-stub, just in case someone wants to sort stubs on the city. Egypt-stub, for ancient Egypt, was an unfortunate name). There might be enough for Ancient Greece to get a stub too, but Rome seems to crop up more often. Grutness| hello? 10:10, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
As a way to segregate Category:Chemistry stubs into at least one smaller slice, I've created Category:Chemical reaction stubs and the corresponding template and listed this on the Stub Types page; I'll go about populating it momentarily. Any suggestions as to rewording of stub or category are welcome. Courtland 03:17, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
I mentioned this need for this here (came across a lot of these while re-sorting people stubs), but failed to notice there was a formal proposal process -- my bad. So consider this a proposal to retro-approve this, forgive my procedural lapse, and correct the various wiki errors I've made in creating the template Template:Russia-bio-stub. (But be gentle, it's my first time...) Alai 04:47, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
There are now three and a half thousand UK-geo-stubs. There's also already a NI-geo-stub for Northern Ireland. A logical solution would be to make stubs for Wales and Scotland, to at least ease the strain on the main category (if there's a London WikiProject, then that could probably be pared off, too). Thoughts? Grutness| hello? 07:18, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Need a couple suggestions as to slicing up the Medicine stubs category. My thinking ...
Category:Disease stubs (~several hundred) ...
Category:Medical Sign stubs (~100) (they use 'sign' rather than 'symptom' in the medicine realm here .. interesting a sign is an objective observation associated with a disorder, while a symptom is a subjective one; pain is a symptom while decrease in range of motion (perhaps due to pain) is a sign) ...
Category:Cancer stubs (~100) as a child of the "diseases" stubs. More thoughts?
Courtland 06:49, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC) addenda
Courtland 18:45, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
P.S. I'm double-stubbing some medical and medical treatment stubs to the "tool stubs", like Electric toothbrush ... the picture of pliers associated with a dental-related article is an amusing unanticipated side-effect :) . Courtland 06:49, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC)
Based on the rate of potential classification to this stub I've found in going through -A- general med-stubs, I'm going to create this template and category and place it on the 'stub types' listing. This will be {{ medsign}} and Category:Sign (medicine) stubs. Courtland 18:50, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
Also based on the rate of potential classification to this stub I've found in going through -A- general med-stubs, I'm going to create this template and category and place it on the 'stub types' listing. This will be {{ cancer-stub}} and Category:Cancer stubs. Courtland 18:50, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)
For drugs and other things related to pharmacology. I have already created the stub (and its articles), because I haven't seen the instructions before. If anyone objects or if there are procedural problems, remove it of course. The proposed template would be {{pharma-stub}} , as this is unambiguous and easy to remember. -- Eleassar777 21:29, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I meant this to be part of the pharma-stub discussion, but it can (and should) stand alone Courtland 18:30, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC) There's some splitting that can be done with the treatment-stub that could help some. For instance, creation of a {{ surgery-stub}} could split out ~30%; replacement of {{ treatment-stub}} with {{ CAM-stub}} in some cases => ~10%; creation of a {{ meds-stub}} could take care of most of the rest; thereafter, {{ treatment-stub}} could probably be retired. The {{ meds-stubs}} would cover the clinical pharmacology aspect of pharmacology, then the {{ pharma-stub}} could handle the rest. Is this consistent with what you're thinking? Courtland 15:41, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC)
I would like to propose the implementation of Template:beer-stub (I created it already, but have not yet used it). This would be used in association with beer and brewery articles that fall under the WikiProject Beer. Some of the following articles seem like likely candidates at the moment (many more will follow as the project gets underway):
The creation of this as a merger of Angel- and Buffy-stubs is done. See information below. — Courtland 03:07, 2005 Mar 29 (UTC)
A part of the Transportation stubs. There are ones for trams, Vans and Railways. See Network Colchester for difficulties in catogorising these types of Stubs. TAS 17:08, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm beginning to wonder whether a currency and coinage stub (money-stub) would make a good subcategory of econ-stub, for articles like Augustalis, Barbados dollar, Ducat, and Egyptian pound. Thoughts? Grutness| hello? 09:36, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Okay - {{ money-stub}} is made and running. Grutness| hello? 04:19, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
And then there's colour/color (hence col-stub!). Azure (color), Bistre, Brunswick green, Cerise (color), Cream (color), Fire engine red... Grutness| hello? 05:34, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Created to solve several multi-stubbing problems with eastern European history articles (one of which was listed as a history-stub, lithuania-stub, belarus-stub, ukraine-stub AND russia-stub!) and because template {{Russia-stub}} seems too broad to the editors. "Eastern Slavic history stubs" cover mainly three East Slavic nations: Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, and, to a lesser degree, events related to the history of Lithuania and, sometimes, Poland (because there was an extended period when Poland and/or Lithuania politically dominated some of what's now Russia, Ukraine and Belarus). The stubs should apply to the articles related to the time when Russia, Ukraine and Belarus didn't yet form as nations of their own out of East Slavic proto-nation of the time of Kievan Rus and somewhat later. Also, some events of a later time are related to all or some of these nations and having an East-Slavic-history stub seems an approprate solution to the multi-stubbing problem. Russia-history-stub may or may not become a subcategory of East-Slavic-history stub. We should wait for consensus at Wikipedia talk:Russian wikipedians' notice board on that. Grutness| hello? 03:57, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC) and Irpen 04:48, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
Another subdivision on music-stub. I didn't create it because there aren't that many opera stubs, and a classical-composition-stub would be more useful (there are much more of those, including operettas). Still, it would be big enough to be of some use to a WikiProject or other interested parties. Any comments? -- grm_wnr Esc 18:23, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The category Category:Pitcairn-related stubs has 7 articles and 6 templates. The (very interesting) article on Pitcairn Islands says there are 5 islands but only one is inhabited. I believe there is a note somewhere to sort geographical stubs for this into Category:Oceania geography stubs. RJFJR 20:47, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)
Is there any real reason for having both Template:org-stub and Template:un-stub? I realise that the latter is explicitly for international organisations, but an awful lot of those with the org-stub template seem to be international, and only some 25 articles have un-stub. Either this needs tidying up and sorting out, or un-stub should go, IMHO. Grutness| hello? 09:50, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Just as an aside ... when I saw this conversation show up on my watch-list I thought "oh, a discussion about removing stub notices". Courtland 00:37, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)
Both currently listed on tfd and cfd - neither has been listed here, and Quebec-bio only has four articles. This one goes against current suggestions to further divide bio-stubs by nationality and occupation (by dividing by natonality and subnational region). Quebec-stub currently has about 20 items, but I doubt it could get anywhere close to the 50, 75, 100 suggestions elsewhere on WikiProject:stub sorting. Grutness| hello? 04:07, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Can we merge these into one Template:Rugby-stub? Category:Rugby union stubs is not that big (41 articles at present) and people who are unfamiliar with rugby (like me) are likely to find the distinction difficult to make. - Aranel ("Sarah") 00:31, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I know this was a case of be bold rather than follow procedure, but I noticed that most of the rugby-stubs were actually rugby league stubs, so I made RugbyLeague-stub, shifted everything over, then deleted Rugby-stub. All articles should say on them somewhere whether they relate to Union or League, so hopefully it will be obvious which of the two templates to use. If this was a bad move, and a merge is better, then merge is still possible from here. Grutness| hello? 09:17, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Do we need this one? It only has about a dozen articles, all of which are probably better served by station-stub or the like. There's also a completely unused Template:PBS Substub, which is on tfd. Grutness| hello? 07:10, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
One article ( RuneScape runes, which isn't even that stubby) plus the template. We could merge with Template:Cvg-stub, or, better yet, unstub the article and delete the template. -- grm_wnr Esc 23:56, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Listed on WP:TFD and WP:CFD. -- grm_wnr Esc 21:44, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Anyone know anything about this one? It's for something called "Codename:Kids next door" and is used on two articles. The entire KND category (which for some reason Category: KND stubs is not a subcategory of) only has about 15 articles, so does it need a separate stub category rather than the planned Tv-animation-stub? Hugely popular series like Star Trek and Buffy, yes, I can understand stub categories for them, but I'm worried this one will open the floodgates... Grutness| hello? 09:08, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Created by an anon, and nothing links to it. Most likely a joke. Remuel 22:11, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't think these should be done away with altogether, merely merged into a new {{ buffyverse-stub}}, or redefine the current {{ Buffy-stub}}. This new template & category would take {{ fantasy-stub}} and {{ tvseries-stub}} as parents. Courtland 04:59, 2005 Mar 27 (UTC)