The possible branches for this stub could be: Diseases, Drugs
And your suggestion, biochemistry. -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:11, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
All of the different pages on stubs have lots of information (e.g. Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs), although for any complete list I would add an extra column that goes to each stub's corresponding category. On the other hand, it would be nice if there was some quick guide that could also be used. I've tried to create a quick guide for just the science stubs as an example of what I think needs to be created. gK ¿? 19:59, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Science {{ Sci-stub}} Cat. WP++
Possible other science stubs
Cat.=stub category, WP++=Very Active WikiProject, WP+=Active WikiProject WP-=Inactive WikiProject WP?=Unknown WikiProject status or multiple subprojects
Science Sci-stub (6 subcategories, 189 articles)
Information from late 29 December 2004 PST
Biochemistry isn't a stub of biology. If there's some compelling reason to put it anywhere deeper than Science stubs, then it goes in chemistry. -- jag123 03:39, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I posted this comment at Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Stubs, but since this page seems to be where most of the attention is lately, I've copied it here as well.
Template:HK-stub redirects to Template:Hong-Kong-stub. All the articles with the HK-stub properly show Category:Hong Kong-related stubs, but when you go to Category:Hong Kong-related stubs, that page doesn't show any of the articles with the HK-stub. Is this a bug, or should one of the Hong Kong stub templates be deleted, with all the articles moved over to the other template? (Thank goodness there aren't too many articles using either template (see [1], and several of those articles should be moved to the template:Hong-Kong-geo-stub if things do get moved.) gK ¿? 03:13, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Last night I found that there already exist the following stubs: {{ Christianity-stub}}, {{ Islam-stub}}, {{ Palestine-stub}}, and {{ Taiwan-stub}}.
None of them had their corresponding stub categories, although I've now created the Category:Islam-related stubs for the Islam stub. In taking a quick look at Category:Religion stubs, it looks like a large percentage of them could be moved to the Islam stub. Also, if you do a Google site search for Islam+stub, there are a fair number of plain stubs that could also be converted into Islam stubs. It also looks like a good percentage of Category:Substubs may also be Islam stubs. In fact, my guess is that a fully populated Islam stub category might be rather large, so it might be a good idea to create a few subcategories now. I was thinking that an Islam-bio-stub would be a very good one to create, and possibly an Islam-geo-stub to be filled with articles like Islam in Canada. Other than creating some subcategories, I think that the Islam stub is ready to go "live".
On the other hand, I do wonder about the fish symbol for the Christianity stub. Although the Ichthys has been used as a minor symbol for Christianity for a long time (since the Roman catacombs?), at least here in the US the symbol has become fairly strongly associated with conservative born again Christian groups, so I think that image is potentially controversial and not neutral. It may be best to have a Christianity stub without any image at all. gK ¿? 03:13, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
For those of you not aware of what's been going on with the geography stubs, around the end of last year I noticed that there were 4200 geo-stubs unsorted in one large category - far too many to reasonably expect anyone to go through it looking for one region's stubs. Since then I've been creating subcategories (latterly with the help of User:Aranel and a couple of others), and there are now some 30 country or region-specific subcategories, and only about 850 non-subcategorised geo-stubs. I'm now sifting through the 2400 items in Category: Stub, looking for more. As far as I'm aware, all the countries which had over 40 geo-stubs now have subcategories. Several with no subcategory have over 30 stubs (Finland, Czech Rep, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, and Romania). Although I can see sense in continuing further, this seems as reasonable a place to slow down with the creation of new categories as any.
As things stand, people can still simply use the Template:Geo-stub or can use the subcategories. A simple sift through Category:Geography stubs moving things into the subcategories every couple of weeks should keep it at a useable level. Grutness| hello? 07:03, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I don't really understand the directions for creating new stub categories, so I'm reluctant to try my hand at that just yet. Even so, I've put category-stubs on a fair number of stub articles in the A's and B's today, and I saw the following possible-tags to go among the things we've got:
A general reorganization of Region tags in general might be very useful -- Each continent country could have a geo tag, a gov tag, a cult(ure) tag, a trans(port) tag, and a tech tag to help sort articles faster.
These are just suggestions -- not trying to rock the boat. Andrew Watt 04:24, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I see that one of the items on this page is a quick summary of science stubs. Since there's been a lot of subdividing in the geo-stubs, I thought I'd add the same here.
The following countries or regions have separate geo stubs, all of the form "Countryname-geo-stub":
Thus, for a stub relating to a place in France, say, you would use {{ France-geo-stub}}. Note that China-geo-stub can be used for both Chinas, mainland and Taiwan, and Korea-geo-stub can be used for both halves of that divided peninsula.
In addition, the following countries use an abbreviation or variant on their names in the same way:
There are also separate stubs for the following:
The general {{ geo-stub}} still works, it simply means a little more work for someone else later! Grutness| hello? 12:00, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The generic geo-stubs are down to a mere handful now (less that 1% of the number there were two months ago!. The last two geo-stub categories are catch-alls: Euro-geo-stub and Asia-geo-stub, for all articles in parts of Europe and Asia not otherwise covered (unless, of course, you want me to make a Liechtenstein-geo-stub :). Grutness| hello? 02:59, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Another hopefully useful new stub template added: Template:Rocket-stub, for articles on Rocketry and/or Spacecraft. Grutness| hello? 10:51, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Template:NYCS stub for New York City Subway stubs, which were being inconsistently sorted as rail or US-geo. -- SPUI ( talk) 03:58, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
There are two possible places for stubs about illustrators of books: writer- or artist-. I suspect that people who know about writers will know about illustrators, whereas people who know about artists will not; if I'm right about that, then illustrators belong under writer-. But I really don't know whether I'm right. (If writer- does include illustators, then the text of the template should be modified accordingly, of course.) — msh210 18:47, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
10 February 2004: These are the current stubs listed for deletion at WP:TFD:
Current TFD policy is to delete a template after seven days if there is consensus to delete, or there are no objections (although User:Netoholic is trying to get that shortened to 5 days—see [2]). To be on the safe side, WP:TFD should probably be checked every 3-4 days, and any new templates that show up there should be listed here. BlankVerse 08:51, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
There is a notice on the Category:Movie stubs listing that indicates mov-stub and movie-stub are deprecated in favor of film-stub. At odds with this (perhaps) is that the Category:Film stubs does not exist. If film-stub is the preferred of the three, could the table @ Wikipedia:Stub_categories#The_arts be updated to reflect this? With respect to Category:Film stubs, I created a redirect page to Movie stubs ... but that might not have been a good thing to do, I'm not sure. Thanks for the input & advice. Courtland 04:13, 2005 Feb 11 (UTC)
I recently stubbed a comedy album to {{lit-stub}} under the justification that I would have stubbed thusly if it had been a comedic book rather than a recording. The item in question is I_Think_We're_All_Bozos_on_This_Bus. What do you think .. appropriate? Courtland 05:37, 2005 Feb 12 (UTC)
...it has ceased to be, etc etc etc. Please use geo-stub or (preferably) the relevant region-specific geo-stub instead. Grutness| hello? 00:27, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The possible branches for this stub could be: Diseases, Drugs
And your suggestion, biochemistry. -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:11, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
All of the different pages on stubs have lots of information (e.g. Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs), although for any complete list I would add an extra column that goes to each stub's corresponding category. On the other hand, it would be nice if there was some quick guide that could also be used. I've tried to create a quick guide for just the science stubs as an example of what I think needs to be created. gK ¿? 19:59, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Science {{ Sci-stub}} Cat. WP++
Possible other science stubs
Cat.=stub category, WP++=Very Active WikiProject, WP+=Active WikiProject WP-=Inactive WikiProject WP?=Unknown WikiProject status or multiple subprojects
Science Sci-stub (6 subcategories, 189 articles)
Information from late 29 December 2004 PST
Biochemistry isn't a stub of biology. If there's some compelling reason to put it anywhere deeper than Science stubs, then it goes in chemistry. -- jag123 03:39, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I posted this comment at Wikipedia talk:Template messages/Stubs, but since this page seems to be where most of the attention is lately, I've copied it here as well.
Template:HK-stub redirects to Template:Hong-Kong-stub. All the articles with the HK-stub properly show Category:Hong Kong-related stubs, but when you go to Category:Hong Kong-related stubs, that page doesn't show any of the articles with the HK-stub. Is this a bug, or should one of the Hong Kong stub templates be deleted, with all the articles moved over to the other template? (Thank goodness there aren't too many articles using either template (see [1], and several of those articles should be moved to the template:Hong-Kong-geo-stub if things do get moved.) gK ¿? 03:13, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Last night I found that there already exist the following stubs: {{ Christianity-stub}}, {{ Islam-stub}}, {{ Palestine-stub}}, and {{ Taiwan-stub}}.
None of them had their corresponding stub categories, although I've now created the Category:Islam-related stubs for the Islam stub. In taking a quick look at Category:Religion stubs, it looks like a large percentage of them could be moved to the Islam stub. Also, if you do a Google site search for Islam+stub, there are a fair number of plain stubs that could also be converted into Islam stubs. It also looks like a good percentage of Category:Substubs may also be Islam stubs. In fact, my guess is that a fully populated Islam stub category might be rather large, so it might be a good idea to create a few subcategories now. I was thinking that an Islam-bio-stub would be a very good one to create, and possibly an Islam-geo-stub to be filled with articles like Islam in Canada. Other than creating some subcategories, I think that the Islam stub is ready to go "live".
On the other hand, I do wonder about the fish symbol for the Christianity stub. Although the Ichthys has been used as a minor symbol for Christianity for a long time (since the Roman catacombs?), at least here in the US the symbol has become fairly strongly associated with conservative born again Christian groups, so I think that image is potentially controversial and not neutral. It may be best to have a Christianity stub without any image at all. gK ¿? 03:13, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
For those of you not aware of what's been going on with the geography stubs, around the end of last year I noticed that there were 4200 geo-stubs unsorted in one large category - far too many to reasonably expect anyone to go through it looking for one region's stubs. Since then I've been creating subcategories (latterly with the help of User:Aranel and a couple of others), and there are now some 30 country or region-specific subcategories, and only about 850 non-subcategorised geo-stubs. I'm now sifting through the 2400 items in Category: Stub, looking for more. As far as I'm aware, all the countries which had over 40 geo-stubs now have subcategories. Several with no subcategory have over 30 stubs (Finland, Czech Rep, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, and Romania). Although I can see sense in continuing further, this seems as reasonable a place to slow down with the creation of new categories as any.
As things stand, people can still simply use the Template:Geo-stub or can use the subcategories. A simple sift through Category:Geography stubs moving things into the subcategories every couple of weeks should keep it at a useable level. Grutness| hello? 07:03, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I don't really understand the directions for creating new stub categories, so I'm reluctant to try my hand at that just yet. Even so, I've put category-stubs on a fair number of stub articles in the A's and B's today, and I saw the following possible-tags to go among the things we've got:
A general reorganization of Region tags in general might be very useful -- Each continent country could have a geo tag, a gov tag, a cult(ure) tag, a trans(port) tag, and a tech tag to help sort articles faster.
These are just suggestions -- not trying to rock the boat. Andrew Watt 04:24, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I see that one of the items on this page is a quick summary of science stubs. Since there's been a lot of subdividing in the geo-stubs, I thought I'd add the same here.
The following countries or regions have separate geo stubs, all of the form "Countryname-geo-stub":
Thus, for a stub relating to a place in France, say, you would use {{ France-geo-stub}}. Note that China-geo-stub can be used for both Chinas, mainland and Taiwan, and Korea-geo-stub can be used for both halves of that divided peninsula.
In addition, the following countries use an abbreviation or variant on their names in the same way:
There are also separate stubs for the following:
The general {{ geo-stub}} still works, it simply means a little more work for someone else later! Grutness| hello? 12:00, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The generic geo-stubs are down to a mere handful now (less that 1% of the number there were two months ago!. The last two geo-stub categories are catch-alls: Euro-geo-stub and Asia-geo-stub, for all articles in parts of Europe and Asia not otherwise covered (unless, of course, you want me to make a Liechtenstein-geo-stub :). Grutness| hello? 02:59, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Another hopefully useful new stub template added: Template:Rocket-stub, for articles on Rocketry and/or Spacecraft. Grutness| hello? 10:51, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Template:NYCS stub for New York City Subway stubs, which were being inconsistently sorted as rail or US-geo. -- SPUI ( talk) 03:58, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
There are two possible places for stubs about illustrators of books: writer- or artist-. I suspect that people who know about writers will know about illustrators, whereas people who know about artists will not; if I'm right about that, then illustrators belong under writer-. But I really don't know whether I'm right. (If writer- does include illustators, then the text of the template should be modified accordingly, of course.) — msh210 18:47, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
10 February 2004: These are the current stubs listed for deletion at WP:TFD:
Current TFD policy is to delete a template after seven days if there is consensus to delete, or there are no objections (although User:Netoholic is trying to get that shortened to 5 days—see [2]). To be on the safe side, WP:TFD should probably be checked every 3-4 days, and any new templates that show up there should be listed here. BlankVerse 08:51, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
There is a notice on the Category:Movie stubs listing that indicates mov-stub and movie-stub are deprecated in favor of film-stub. At odds with this (perhaps) is that the Category:Film stubs does not exist. If film-stub is the preferred of the three, could the table @ Wikipedia:Stub_categories#The_arts be updated to reflect this? With respect to Category:Film stubs, I created a redirect page to Movie stubs ... but that might not have been a good thing to do, I'm not sure. Thanks for the input & advice. Courtland 04:13, 2005 Feb 11 (UTC)
I recently stubbed a comedy album to {{lit-stub}} under the justification that I would have stubbed thusly if it had been a comedic book rather than a recording. The item in question is I_Think_We're_All_Bozos_on_This_Bus. What do you think .. appropriate? Courtland 05:37, 2005 Feb 12 (UTC)
...it has ceased to be, etc etc etc. Please use geo-stub or (preferably) the relevant region-specific geo-stub instead. Grutness| hello? 00:27, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)