Certifiedallergist
- Certifiedallergist ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
02 February 2012
- Suspected sockpuppets
- SParish ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Harshcritique ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Self-identifies as Certifiedallergist
These may be stale, but are listed here for possible future use:
- Richff ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Identical revertions, helpful assistance and supportive comments by several registered and anonymous single-minded newbies, one of whom has already been fingered as having a COI in this article. Famousdog ( talk) 11:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Please check out talk page from here onwards for background.
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- 99.186.203.1 is the IP for Nambudripad's organization and the other IP (108.0.122.250) geolocates to the same area. All very suspicious. The whole thing stinks of meatpuppetry, sockpuppetry, COI, coordinated deception, edit warring, and newbie attempts to misuse Wikipedia in the promotion of fringe ideas and COI junk science. MEDRS is totally ignored. There is lots of bad behavior involved. -- Brangifer ( talk) 15:54, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- This sequence of diffs ( 1, 2, 3) show that 108.0.122.250 is Certifiedallergist. 108.0.122.250 comments, "Also thanks to anon user above", in reference to a previous comment by 108.0.122.250, then realizes their mistake, removes the evidence and replaces the comment under Certifiedallergist's signature. Randomnonsense ( talk) 05:25, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- I'm just going to say it straight out - I strongly suspect that CertifiedAllergist (and socks) is Devi Nambudripad herself.
We have already established that CA uses an IP owned by Nambudripad, yet CA denies being Nambudripad. More deception?-- Brangifer ( talk) 21:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- This isn't quite right, 99.186.203.1 is confirmed as connected to Devi Nambudripad, but whether or not 99.186.203.1 and Certifiedallergist/Harshcritique/108.0.122.250 are connected is unknown. Although some connection seems quite likely. Randomnonsense ( talk) 04:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the correction. My memory played a trick on me there and I got the IPs mixed up. I have stricken that part. -- Brangifer ( talk) 05:56, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Nevertheless, this does appear to be a concerted effort by those connected to Devi Nambudripad given the coinciding appearance of Certifiedallergist/Harshcritique/108.0.122.250, 99.186.203.1 and SParish on the article. Randomnonsense ( talk) 17:28, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Just a comment on 160.87.155.49, the IP is registered to UCI Medical Center. Devi Nambudripad claims to be on the "Board of Occipital Blindness, University, Irvine (UCI)" and to have been a research associate there in 2002. Randomnonsense ( talk) 04:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure if it is appropriate to add these above, but 76.168.150.138, 75.82.64.220 and 75.4.7.244 have also edited the article in the past and all geolocate to the near vicinity of Nambudripad's NARF foundation. 99.186.203.1, 160.87.155.49, 108.0.122.250, 76.168.150.138, 75.82.64.220 and 75.4.7.244 all geolocate to the same area. Another IP, 71.254.191.11, is also near, but a little further away than the other IPs. Randomnonsense ( talk) 04:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Another edit by 108.0.122.250 confirming the connection to Certifiedallergist. -- Brangifer ( talk) 06:16, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Glad that at least one sockpuppet (Harshcritique) has been blocked, but I would be unhappy with anything other than a permanent block of CA as a result of his/her despicable and disruptive behaviour and a temporary block of SParish and confirmed IP socks. Unfortunately, I understand that geographical proximity isn't a smoking gun that would allow a block of the the other suspected IPs. Famousdog ( talk) 10:50, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
- You are quite correct. Such deliberate deception, way beyond just the creation and use of socks, should not be allowed to go unnoticed. A block, or at least a topic ban, should be used. A topic ban should apply to all of Wikipedia, including the user's own userspace. -- Brangifer ( talk) 03:55, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Compliments to you for your clear report.
- Certifiedallergist is a
Confirmed match with Harshcritique. - SParish is technically
Unrelated to them, but is geographically very close. Meatpuppetry might not be an unreasonable explanation. - Per normal procedure here, no comment on the IPs.
Given the huge conflict of interest, the edit warring, the sockpuppetry, and substantial concerns regarding core content policies and guidelines such as WP:FRINGE, WP:RS, and WP:MEDRS, any incentive to permit the above accounts to edit Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Technique in future is virtually non-existent - Wikipedia:General sanctions regarding Pseudoscience are seeming increasingly relevant. Thoughts welcome. WilliamH ( talk) 13:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- I am merely a physician who was interested in reading about Dr. Nambudripad and her new NAET study. When I found out the rampant abuse of neutral point of view and COI on the part of some editors here as regards to Stephen Barrett, I became very upset. Yes I used to edit without logging in and also in a different account as that is the only way it seems to get attention here. No one would listen to my advice. It seems there are in fact other editors here that may understand my points. I am board certified in allergy and immunology and practice in California. Many of my patients have gone to Dr. Nambudripad and came back telling me that they felt better. So that is why I was curious. It is sad that I have to go and search the internet myself just to get a reference to this autism/allergy study that was done as there is no mention of it on wiki. Other articles in wiki use WP:Primary so it seems blatant that three primary references were removed from this article. You can ban me if you wish. It makes no difference to me as I will not be using Wikipedia in the future for my research purposes. Certifiedallergist ( talk) 18:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
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Administrator note Per the findings I've blocked and tagged Harshcritique. —
HelloAnnyong
(say whaaat?!) 04:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
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Administrator note Follow-up: I've blocked 108.0.122.250 and 67.52.123.227 for a week each. —
HelloAnnyong
(say whaaat?!) 01:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
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Certifiedallergist
- Certifiedallergist ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
02 February 2012
- Suspected sockpuppets
- SParish ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Harshcritique ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Self-identifies as Certifiedallergist
These may be stale, but are listed here for possible future use:
- Richff ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
Identical revertions, helpful assistance and supportive comments by several registered and anonymous single-minded newbies, one of whom has already been fingered as having a COI in this article. Famousdog ( talk) 11:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Please check out talk page from here onwards for background.
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- 99.186.203.1 is the IP for Nambudripad's organization and the other IP (108.0.122.250) geolocates to the same area. All very suspicious. The whole thing stinks of meatpuppetry, sockpuppetry, COI, coordinated deception, edit warring, and newbie attempts to misuse Wikipedia in the promotion of fringe ideas and COI junk science. MEDRS is totally ignored. There is lots of bad behavior involved. -- Brangifer ( talk) 15:54, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- This sequence of diffs ( 1, 2, 3) show that 108.0.122.250 is Certifiedallergist. 108.0.122.250 comments, "Also thanks to anon user above", in reference to a previous comment by 108.0.122.250, then realizes their mistake, removes the evidence and replaces the comment under Certifiedallergist's signature. Randomnonsense ( talk) 05:25, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- I'm just going to say it straight out - I strongly suspect that CertifiedAllergist (and socks) is Devi Nambudripad herself.
We have already established that CA uses an IP owned by Nambudripad, yet CA denies being Nambudripad. More deception?-- Brangifer ( talk) 21:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- This isn't quite right, 99.186.203.1 is confirmed as connected to Devi Nambudripad, but whether or not 99.186.203.1 and Certifiedallergist/Harshcritique/108.0.122.250 are connected is unknown. Although some connection seems quite likely. Randomnonsense ( talk) 04:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the correction. My memory played a trick on me there and I got the IPs mixed up. I have stricken that part. -- Brangifer ( talk) 05:56, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Nevertheless, this does appear to be a concerted effort by those connected to Devi Nambudripad given the coinciding appearance of Certifiedallergist/Harshcritique/108.0.122.250, 99.186.203.1 and SParish on the article. Randomnonsense ( talk) 17:28, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Just a comment on 160.87.155.49, the IP is registered to UCI Medical Center. Devi Nambudripad claims to be on the "Board of Occipital Blindness, University, Irvine (UCI)" and to have been a research associate there in 2002. Randomnonsense ( talk) 04:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Not sure if it is appropriate to add these above, but 76.168.150.138, 75.82.64.220 and 75.4.7.244 have also edited the article in the past and all geolocate to the near vicinity of Nambudripad's NARF foundation. 99.186.203.1, 160.87.155.49, 108.0.122.250, 76.168.150.138, 75.82.64.220 and 75.4.7.244 all geolocate to the same area. Another IP, 71.254.191.11, is also near, but a little further away than the other IPs. Randomnonsense ( talk) 04:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Another edit by 108.0.122.250 confirming the connection to Certifiedallergist. -- Brangifer ( talk) 06:16, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Glad that at least one sockpuppet (Harshcritique) has been blocked, but I would be unhappy with anything other than a permanent block of CA as a result of his/her despicable and disruptive behaviour and a temporary block of SParish and confirmed IP socks. Unfortunately, I understand that geographical proximity isn't a smoking gun that would allow a block of the the other suspected IPs. Famousdog ( talk) 10:50, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
- You are quite correct. Such deliberate deception, way beyond just the creation and use of socks, should not be allowed to go unnoticed. A block, or at least a topic ban, should be used. A topic ban should apply to all of Wikipedia, including the user's own userspace. -- Brangifer ( talk) 03:55, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Compliments to you for your clear report.
- Certifiedallergist is a Confirmed match with Harshcritique.
- SParish is technically
Unrelated to them, but is geographically very close. Meatpuppetry might not be an unreasonable explanation.
- Per normal procedure here, no comment on the IPs.
Given the huge conflict of interest, the edit warring, the sockpuppetry, and substantial concerns regarding core content policies and guidelines such as WP:FRINGE, WP:RS, and WP:MEDRS, any incentive to permit the above accounts to edit Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Technique in future is virtually non-existent - Wikipedia:General sanctions regarding Pseudoscience are seeming increasingly relevant. Thoughts welcome. WilliamH ( talk) 13:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- I am merely a physician who was interested in reading about Dr. Nambudripad and her new NAET study. When I found out the rampant abuse of neutral point of view and COI on the part of some editors here as regards to Stephen Barrett, I became very upset. Yes I used to edit without logging in and also in a different account as that is the only way it seems to get attention here. No one would listen to my advice. It seems there are in fact other editors here that may understand my points. I am board certified in allergy and immunology and practice in California. Many of my patients have gone to Dr. Nambudripad and came back telling me that they felt better. So that is why I was curious. It is sad that I have to go and search the internet myself just to get a reference to this autism/allergy study that was done as there is no mention of it on wiki. Other articles in wiki use WP:Primary so it seems blatant that three primary references were removed from this article. You can ban me if you wish. It makes no difference to me as I will not be using Wikipedia in the future for my research purposes. Certifiedallergist ( talk) 18:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
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Administrator note Per the findings I've blocked and tagged Harshcritique. —
HelloAnnyong
(say whaaat?!) 04:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
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Administrator note Follow-up: I've blocked 108.0.122.250 and 67.52.123.227 for a week each. —
HelloAnnyong
(say whaaat?!) 01:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
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