From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

all proposed

After considering /Evidence and discussing proposals with other Arbitrators, parties and others at /Workshop, arbitrators may place proposals which are ready for voting here.

Arbitrators should vote for or against each point or abstain.

  • Only items that receive a majority "support" vote will be passed.
  • Items that receive a majority "oppose" vote will be formally rejected.
  • Items that do not receive a majority "support" or "oppose" vote will be open to possible amendment by any Arbitrator if they so choose. After the amendment process is complete, the item will be voted on one last time.

Conditional votes for or against and abstentions should be explained by the Arbitrator before or after his/her time-stamped signature. For example, an Arbitrator can state that she/he would only favor a particular remedy based on whether or not another remedy/remedies were passed.

For this case, there are 10 active arbitrators and none are recused, so 6 votes are a majority.

For all items

Proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on. Non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page.

Motions and requests by the parties

Place those on /Workshop.

Proposed temporary injunctions

Four net "support" votes needed to pass (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first vote is normally the fastest an injunction will be imposed.

Template

1) {text of proposed orders}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed final decision Information

Proposed principles

Assume good faith

1) Wikipedia:Assume good faith contemplates the extension of courtesy and good will to other editors on the assumption that they, like you, are here to build an information resource with a neutral point of view based on reliable, verifiable sources.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Sockpuppets

2) Abuse of sockpuppet accounts, such as using them to evade blocks, bans, and user accountability–and especially to make personal attacks or reverts, or vandalize–is strictly forbidden. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppets.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Wikipedia is not a soapbox

3) The use of Wikipedia for political propaganda is prohibited.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Wikipedia is not a battleground

4) Wikipedia is a reference work. Use of the site for political struggle accompanied by harassment of opponents is extremely disruptive.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Disruptive editing

5) Users who engage in disruptive editing may be banned from the site.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Template

1) {text of proposed principle}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed findings of fact

Szhaider

1) Szhaider ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempts to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ( [1], [2], [3]).

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. (minor grammatical change to make parallel) Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Unre4L

2) Unre4L ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ( [4], [5], [6], [7]).

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Siddiqui

3) Siddiqui ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has an extensive history of abusive sockpuppetry (see checkuser results), aggressive edit-warring (see block log), and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ( [8], [9], [10]).

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Nadirali

4) Nadirali ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ( [11], [12], [13], [14]).

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 02:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Template

1) {text of proposed finding of fact}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed remedies

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

Szhaider banned

1) Szhaider ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Contributions deteriorated significantly in recent months. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Unre4L banned

2) Unre4L ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. This covert edit summary during arbitration case. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Siddiqui banned

3) Siddiqui ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Nadirali banned

4) Nadirali ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 02:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Template

1) {text of proposed remedy}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed enforcement

Template

1) {text of proposed enforcement}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Discussion by Arbitrators

General

Motion to close

Implementation notes

Clerks and Arbitrators should use this section to clarify their understanding of the final decision--at a minimum, a list of items that have passed. Additionally, a list of which remedies are conditional on others (for instance a ban that should only be implemented if a mentorship should fail), and so on. Arbitrators should not pass the motion until they are satisfied with the implementation notes.

  • Straightforward close; everything passes. Newyorkbrad 02:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Vote

Four net "support" votes needed to close case (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first motion is normally the fastest a case will close.

  1. Close; looks like we're done here. Kirill Lokshin 02:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Close, barring any other votes in opposition - everything has passed. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Close Fred Bauder 18:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. Close. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 06:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC) reply


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

all proposed

After considering /Evidence and discussing proposals with other Arbitrators, parties and others at /Workshop, arbitrators may place proposals which are ready for voting here.

Arbitrators should vote for or against each point or abstain.

  • Only items that receive a majority "support" vote will be passed.
  • Items that receive a majority "oppose" vote will be formally rejected.
  • Items that do not receive a majority "support" or "oppose" vote will be open to possible amendment by any Arbitrator if they so choose. After the amendment process is complete, the item will be voted on one last time.

Conditional votes for or against and abstentions should be explained by the Arbitrator before or after his/her time-stamped signature. For example, an Arbitrator can state that she/he would only favor a particular remedy based on whether or not another remedy/remedies were passed.

For this case, there are 10 active arbitrators and none are recused, so 6 votes are a majority.

For all items

Proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on. Non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page.

Motions and requests by the parties

Place those on /Workshop.

Proposed temporary injunctions

Four net "support" votes needed to pass (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first vote is normally the fastest an injunction will be imposed.

Template

1) {text of proposed orders}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed final decision Information

Proposed principles

Assume good faith

1) Wikipedia:Assume good faith contemplates the extension of courtesy and good will to other editors on the assumption that they, like you, are here to build an information resource with a neutral point of view based on reliable, verifiable sources.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Sockpuppets

2) Abuse of sockpuppet accounts, such as using them to evade blocks, bans, and user accountability–and especially to make personal attacks or reverts, or vandalize–is strictly forbidden. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppets.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Wikipedia is not a soapbox

3) The use of Wikipedia for political propaganda is prohibited.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Wikipedia is not a battleground

4) Wikipedia is a reference work. Use of the site for political struggle accompanied by harassment of opponents is extremely disruptive.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Disruptive editing

5) Users who engage in disruptive editing may be banned from the site.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Template

1) {text of proposed principle}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed findings of fact

Szhaider

1) Szhaider ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempts to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ( [1], [2], [3]).

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. (minor grammatical change to make parallel) Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Unre4L

2) Unre4L ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ( [4], [5], [6], [7]).

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Siddiqui

3) Siddiqui ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has an extensive history of abusive sockpuppetry (see checkuser results), aggressive edit-warring (see block log), and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ( [8], [9], [10]).

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Nadirali

4) Nadirali ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has an extensive history of aggressive edit-warring (see block log) and attempting to turn Wikipedia into a battleground along national lines ( [11], [12], [13], [14]).

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 02:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Template

1) {text of proposed finding of fact}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed remedies

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

Szhaider banned

1) Szhaider ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Contributions deteriorated significantly in recent months. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Unre4L banned

2) Unre4L ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. This covert edit summary during arbitration case. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Siddiqui banned

3) Siddiqui ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Nadirali banned

4) Nadirali ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year.

Support:
  1. Kirill Lokshin 02:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 02:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 04:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC) reply
  5. Fred Bauder 18:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  6. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
Oppose:
Abstain:

Template

1) {text of proposed remedy}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed enforcement

Template

1) {text of proposed enforcement}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Discussion by Arbitrators

General

Motion to close

Implementation notes

Clerks and Arbitrators should use this section to clarify their understanding of the final decision--at a minimum, a list of items that have passed. Additionally, a list of which remedies are conditional on others (for instance a ban that should only be implemented if a mentorship should fail), and so on. Arbitrators should not pass the motion until they are satisfied with the implementation notes.

  • Straightforward close; everything passes. Newyorkbrad 02:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply

Vote

Four net "support" votes needed to close case (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first motion is normally the fastest a case will close.

  1. Close; looks like we're done here. Kirill Lokshin 02:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  2. Close, barring any other votes in opposition - everything has passed. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  3. Close Fred Bauder 18:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC) reply
  4. Close. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 06:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC) reply



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