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70.134.227.168 (
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Based on the sparse content and the dearth of independent source coverage, I don't think that the subject of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ScanScout satisfies notability guidelines. It seems to me that the company, or an affiliate, is simply trying to push a PR effort by utilizing wikipedia, but had little third-party information to work with. And anyway, isn't the cited website "crunchbase" the equivalent of a corporate profile wikipedia? In which case, how good a third-party source is it?
To be honest, the main reason I ask is because a company I work for, a competitor of ScanScout, has asked me to write something for our company, but even if done neutrally, I don't believe it is possible to write a solid wikipedia aritcle because I'd be pulling from the same types of sources. I don't think either of our companies has done anything that I would categorize as "notable" to a public outside of the advertising community. Please advise me, one way or the other, as I don't want to adulterate the wikipedia universe with another strained attempt at a notable page... Kmcq ( talk) 15:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Great advice and I appreciate the referral to LUC, as public perception was certainly something I was taking into consideration--having a disputed wikipedia page is exactly what you say: a PR liability. As far as crunchbase goes, I see what you mean about the external links; I wouldn't be surprised if a few, if not the bulk of the cited articles were spoon-fed by PR pitches and releases, but that's not to say that they're necessarily filled with false information, unfounded claims, or insignificance. In any case, until something encyclopedically significant happens with my company, I'll direct any cataloging efforts to crunchbase. Thanks for your input. Kmcq ( talk) 20:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
I attempted my first Wikipedia "Book," page for "Hitchhiking with Larry David," by Paul Samuel Dolman. This does satisfy Wikipedia: Notability /Book #1. Outside References. Does this satisfy wiki notability, or is the problem with the reference structure? LD'sHitchhiker ( talk) 22:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
A publishing company opened in 2009 in Norwich by Robin Jones, Ashley Stokes, Dan Nyman and Ian Nettleton. They aim to publish fiction adn non-fiction that has no outlet in today's mainstream culture. Their first novel "Touching the Starfish" by Ashley Stokes was released on 01/02/10 (English date) They are releasing thier second book, "The Unthology No.1", hopefully a book that shall start a series of short pieces from authors around the world, on 02/12/10 (English date). As is apparent with the palindromic dates of the published books, Unthank Books pride themselves on fronting the aesthetics of writing instead of following "what the market want". They define themselves with the principle that they stray from the mainstream and are interested in innovative and important literary fiction.
Unthank Books called themselves so for four reasons:" 1) After a thirteenth century term of holding land without consent; 2)After a city in Alisdair Grey's book "Lanark"; 3) After a road in the Publishing company's home, Norwich; 4) Because they like it."
They are also running Unthank School Of Writers (U.S.O.W), a writing school with introductory and advanced classes in prose and poetry. Although under the same umbrella as Unthank Books, they are insistant that writing within these classes does not give publication by Unthank. The courses are run by Sarah Bower (Introductory Prose), Ashley Stokes (Advanced Prose) Helen Ivory (Introductory Poetry), Andrew McDonnell (Advanced Poetry), Ian Nettleton (Introductory Screenwriting) and Christabelle Dilks (Advanced Screenwriting).
-- Subtlefaery ( talk) 09:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Unthank School Of Writers (U.S.O.W) is a sister company to Unthank Books. It aims to give lessons from professional tutors, with introductory and advanced classes in prose and poetry. Although under the same umbrella as Unthank Books, they are insistant that writing within these classes does not give publication by Unthank. The courses are run by Sarah Bower (Introductory Prose), Ashley Stokes (Advanced Prose) Helen Ivory (Introductory Poetry), Andrew McDonnell (Advanced Poetry), Ian Nettleton (Introductory Screenwriting) and Christabelle Dilks (Advanced Screenwriting).
-- Subtlefaery ( talk) 09:39, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I have a question about professional certification and its associated spin-outs ( professional certification (Business), professional certification (Computer technology), List of Chiropractic Credentials, etc.). To me, these look like blatant WP:ARTSPAM, places to list one's own company's designations. (I was drawn into this because of this edit, which adds redlinks for certifications for a company deleted for failing notability.) This seems an abuse of lists, no? RJC Talk Contribs 20:19, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Re: this talk page [1]one editor has removed Selby Bacqwa from the article/list because "Baqwa does not have a Wikipedia article to establish her notability" Other editors on the page assert that whether a person has a Wiki bio or not isn't a determining factor for inclusion on this list. Case in point is Selby Baqwa whose name has appeared in more than 100 news articles according to a search of Google News Archives. [2] So the question is: Is Selby Baqwa notable enough to be included in this article/list regardless of the fact that at the present time there is no Wiki bio about him? Thank you for your input.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 02:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay so the argument is 1. He's independently notable, 2. He practices TM, and therefore can be included in the list... and I have it wrong that he needs to be notable for TM per se. Why don't you just start a stub on him? You only need one RS. BE——Critical__ Talk 23:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I did it for you. BE——Critical__ Talk 01:20, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I made an edit with minor wording:
Revision as of 14:43, 25 October 2010
It said: "...was lecturer at the Picmet, Portland International Conference On Management Of Engineering And Technology" with this reference:
Later, wording was changed to this, by editor SlimVirgin with reference remaining:
"...and in 2003 he spoke at the Portland International Conference On Management Of Engineering And Technology."
But today, almost a month later, another editor, User:Drmies, removed this text, along with the reference I inserted. Drmies' edit summary, (rationale,) was this:
→ "he spoke at a conference? wow. rm entirely trivial fact (it's from a sixty-page program) that belongs on a resume"
I would like to know, whether this event, in Portland, is notable enough to be mentioned in the article:
Ref.→ Reisman Lecturer at Picmet 2003 Picmet.org, Sessions p.88 TB-10.2 [Right] Transfer of Technologies: A Meta Taxonomy, Arnold Reisman; Sabanci University, Turkey. Retrieved 2010-10-25.
Thanks. Fusion Is the Future 16:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Please could someone on animals check WP:VPP#BLP query? Simply south ( talk) 01:12, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand what is considered notable for works of art. Why do actual artworks, such as paintings or sculptures, etc not have a specific notability guideline? A specific question that I have is 'are individual works of notable artists considered notable'? Swarm X 20:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
This possibly autobiographical article has me wondering whether this is a fit subject. It certainly needs a rewrite (by someone not called "Windisch-Graetz").
Previous versions seem to assert that he is the Maltese ambassador to Slovakia, which is one thing, yet this source, indicates that he is the 'ambassador' of a Catholic organisation, not the Government of Malta. Any ideas? Or pointers to where I can find out more? pablo 11:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Please cancel this request as the article appears to have been previously deleted for the same reason. JRPG ( talk) 16:50, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
DAEDALUS PRODUCTIONS, INC., is a not-for-profit film and television production company established in 1980 by NINA ROSENBLUM and DANIEL V. ALLENTUCK to produce non-fiction television for network, public and cable markets as well as theatrical feature documentaries and dramatic films. Specializing in international co-production, Daedalus has won numerous awards and is a highly respected member of the worldwide non-fiction community. Co-producing partners include CPB, PBS, TBS, HBO, WDR/GERMANY, LA SEPT/FRANCE, CANAL + SPAIN, SBS/AUSTRALIA. NNA ROSENBLUM and DANIEL V. ALLENTUCK, in collaboration with their esteemed board of advisors, are involved with all aspects of production from script to completed film. Daedalus Productions works with the finest talents in the entertainment world to create non-fiction films and television that utilize the best of contemporary scholarship and professional expertise to push the boundaries of the medium, widen its audience, educate and inform. The focus of Daedalus Producgtions, Inc. is human rights, history and culture. LIBERATORS: FIGHTING ON TWO FRONTS IN WWII, produced by Miles Educational Films Inc. and directed by Nina Rosenblum and William Miles was nominated for an Academy Award for feature documentary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louverture ( talk • contribs) 12:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
This article is written by the publisher of the Magazine, (we/our). I can find no secondary reference to the magazine. Is it actually worth editing or should it be deleted as not notable? Thanks Mark Dask 20:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
This article has references - all of which promote itself. I have proposed it for deletion - but what of the series of articles that depend upon it for notability? I have proposed several for deletion - and risk being blocked for multiple deletion - (I was blocked once for multiple deletions)~. Am I right to propose Discogs for deletion??? in which case a number of articles fall. Mark Dask 20:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to post a writeup about Torry Harris Business Solutions, a Bangalore based IT services company, but the article was deleted with one of reasons being quoted as 'Not Notable'. Kindly request your opinion on the notability factor given the following references: The company has been identified as a leader in SOA integration http://www.forrester.com/rb/Research/wave™_emea_soa_systems_integrators,_q2_2009/q/id/46711/t/2
The company has been identified as a Cool Vendor in Application Integration by Gartner http://www.gartner.com/technology/research/offer/cool-vendors.jsp
The company has been listed amongst the top 20 US based Indian IT services companies by a survey by SiliconIndia http://www.siliconindia.com/SI100_2010/it.html
Kindly let me know your views.
Regards,
Bharat.mk ( talk) 05:43, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
With regards to the linked article: Do announcements or reviews count as significant coverage? -- Bk314159 ( Talk to me and find out what I've done) 15:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
As far as I can determine this person is a soccer/football player on the national team from Thailand. I spent about 15 minutes trying to find references for him. At present there are no references. I could not find coverage of him in perhaps 10 Thai (English-language) newspapers and magazines, world magazines. I tried different spellings of his name. It's possible there are articles about him in Thai publications (in Thai) which may be found. My sense is there isn't much published information about him. I'm not sure what the rules regarding WP:Notability are for sports figures; if they plan on a national team, then is that notable in itself?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 15:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Notability concerns. See Talk:Zahoor Ahmed Shah. No mention in these publications: indiacurrents.com, littleindia.com, indiatoday.in OR sitethokalath.com, ververonline.com, indiamagazine.com, asianage.com, aniin.com, thehindubusinessline.com, businessreviewindia.in, dnaindia.com, expressindia.com, hardnewsmedia.com, hinduonnet.com, hindustantimes.com, indiadaily.com, indianexpress.com, mumbaimirror.com, rediff.com. December 2010.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 02:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I submitted an entry for a recent terrorist event in Denmark, which was rejected.
This event is notable because it has been described by Danish officials as the worst/greatest terror plan in the country. It is notable because it has 1600+ articles on google news.
Please reconsider adopting this page for a wikipedia entry. 81.227.230.210 ( talk) 13:58, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
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I put a notability template on this article and raised the issue of whether the article is sufficiently notable on its Talk page. So far, I've captured the attention of only one other editor. I've pretty much expressed my views in that one discussion and have nothing much to add here. Essentially, I don't believe the group meets the criteria in WP:BAND. The group performed one video/song. It captured the attention of a lot of people on the Internet (YouTube) and the mainstream press. That's pretty much it. I thought about proposing the article for deletion but I wanted more discussion first. Unfortunately, although I appreciate the one other editor's responses, no one else has, which means the discussion has been pretty limited.
I will post a message on the article's Talk page and on the one editor's Talk page about this discussion.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 13:21, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Question. Well, DRosenbach and I have had a very pleasant, civil conversation about the article, but we could have remained on the article's Talk page for that. Isn't anyone else going to comment on the issues presented?-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:27, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
This article refers to a defunct website about theater in Washington, DC. It seems not notable. PixiesAreNice ( talk) 00:42, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
This article is a copy/pasted bio of a dancer, whom I don't believe meets the notability requirements. PixiesAreNice ( talk) 01:14, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
The external links are spam and don't lead (as far as I can determine) to any information on this person. There are no references of a person with this name in the following media:
Dutch newspapers amsterdam-idea.nl, dutchinamerica.com, dnd.nl, dutchinternationalsociety.org, dutchnews.nl, expatica.com/nl, nisnews.nl, rnw.nl/english, godutch.com/newspaper Sports sources athleticbusiness.com, athlonsports.com, camelotsportsmedia.com, espn.go.com, insidesport.com.au, iplayoutside.com, sportingnews.com, sportsillustrated.cnn.com, world-newspapers.com/car-racing.html Major US newspapers wsj.com, nytimes.com, boston.com, miamiherald.com, post-gazette.com, chicagotribune.com, suntimes.com, latimes.com, sfexaminer.com, oregonian.com, usatoday.com, time.com, washingtonpost.com, nysun.com, cbsnews.com, npr.org, guardian.co.uk, nj.com, nhpr.com, huffingtonpost.com, thestar.com, usnews.com, slate.com, newsweek.com Major newspapers worldwide guardian.co.uk, usatoday.com, france24.com/en, chinadaily.com.cn, english.aljazeera.net, indiatoday.in, economist.com, news.bbc.co.uk, journalperu.com, adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English, brazzil.com, rnw.nl/english. Did a PROD. Tomwsulcer ( talk) 12:49, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
There was no mention of this person in January 2011 using any of these spellings:
"Maka'ala Yates" OR "Maka ala Yates" OR "Makaala Yates"
... in any of the following news sources:
Hawaiian publications: staradvertiser.com, hawaiitribune-herald.com, westhawaiitoday.com, mauinews.com, allhawaiinews.com, hawaiinewsdaily.com
US or world newspapers: wsj.com, nytimes.com, boston.com, miamiherald.com, post-gazette.com, chicagotribune.com, suntimes.com, latimes.com, sfexaminer.com, oregonian.com, usatoday.com, time.com, washingtonpost.com, nysun.com, cbsnews.com, npr.org, guardian.co.uk, nj.com, nhpr.com, huffingtonpost.com, thestar.com, usnews.com, slate.com, newsweek.com, guardian.co.uk, usatoday.com, france24.com/en, chinadaily.com.cn, english.aljazeera.net, indiatoday.in, economist.com, news.bbc.co.uk, journalperu.com, adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English, brazzil.com, rnw.nl/english -- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 19:43, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
There was no mention of this person in January 2011 using any of these spellings:
"Mariana Fuentes"
... in any of the following news sources:
Venezuelan publications: english.eluniversal.com, latin-focus.com, latinpetroleum.com, vcrisis.com, veneconomia.com, venezuelanalysis.com
US or world newspapers: wsj.com, nytimes.com, boston.com, miamiherald.com, post-gazette.com, chicagotribune.com, suntimes.com, latimes.com, sfexaminer.com, oregonian.com, usatoday.com, time.com, washingtonpost.com, nysun.com, cbsnews.com, npr.org, guardian.co.uk, nj.com, nhpr.com, huffingtonpost.com, thestar.com, usnews.com, slate.com, newsweek.com, guardian.co.uk, usatoday.com, france24.com/en, chinadaily.com.cn, english.aljazeera.net, indiatoday.in, economist.com, news.bbc.co.uk, journalperu.com, adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English, brazzil.com, rnw.nl/english
Entertainment magazines: ew.com, divatvmagazine.com, realitytvmagazine.com, entertainmentavenue.com, hellomagazine.com, hollywoodreporter.com, instyle.com, themightyorgan.com, okmagazine.com, people.com, popmatters.com, radaronline.com, thecelebritycafe.com, urban75.com, usmagazine.com, variety.com)
TV newspapers: digitalspy.co.uk, cable360.net, atnzone.com, realitynewsonline.com, realscreen.com, smarttvandsound.com, telechimp.com, tvweek.com, tvguide.com, tvrundown.com, videoageinternational.com, videography.com-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 21:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
See Template:Homalin Township. I am building coverage of Burma on here and will be tackling the main towns/villages of each township first. To delete the templates would be counterproductive, especially when they would only be restarted again. Have patience and allow things to develop. At some stage mass dabbing will be done, hopefully be a bot and linkes will be fixed and articles started.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:00, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Notability (geography). Perhaps you should view these images of the people who inhabit these villages. It might be a real eye opener.. But my intention is not to start every single village (at least not in the near future)... I've created templates so I can cross cut from one township to the other and start the most notable towns/villages first like Kutkai, Onbet etc. Building will take time and patience. Most townships will have at least 10 villages which have some information in a British Burmese gazeteer to make it a worthy stub..♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Eh, I've started 68,000 articles which still exist. That should vouch for something in such a deletionist environment that I clearly have an idea of what is notable... You claim you have no experience in talking about settlement notability, I've had this conversation 10,000 times before.. Did you not read what I said? I said I will find settlements by google maps (by actual village size) and then find sources in google books to start them...♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure there are lots of villages where there's content to create useful articles, but I suspect there are also villages where there may never be any such content. IMO there's no rush to create articles for places before we know whether there is. As a bare minimum I think there should be some sort of claim to notability in the article, such as it having a population over a certain threshold, or that something interesting has happened there, or something else that in any way adds notability to the place. The first nine places linked from {{ Homalin Township}} which you mentioned earlier don't have any such claim. Why must we create these articles before we know if there's ever going to be anything else added to them. Wouldn't it be better to first check to see if there is any info about them (in Google Books or elsewhere) before creating them? If I were to draw a line of when to create a new article and when not to, it would be between the ninth link and the tenth. -- Mepolypse ( talk) 22:47, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Notability concerns. Probably a British soap opera actress. But no mention of her in British or American press, entertainment/TV sources, worldwide newspapers. the following: thesun.co.uk, guardian.co.uk, telegraph.co.uk, independent.co.uk, dailynewspaper.co.uk, dailymail.co.uk, thetimes.co.uk, bbc.co.uk, ew.com, divatvmagazine.com, realitytvmagazine.com, entertainmentavenue.com, hellomagazine.com, hollywoodreporter.com, instyle.com, themightyorgan.com, okmagazine.com, people.com, popmatters.com, radaronline.com, thecelebritycafe.com, urban75.com, usmagazine.com, variety.com, digitalspy.co.uk, cable360.net, atnzone.com, realitynewsonline.com, realscreen.com, smarttvandsound.com, telechimp.com, tvweek.com, tvguide.com, tvrundown.com, videoageinternational.com, videography.com, wsj.com, nytimes.com, boston.com, miamiherald.com, post-gazette.com, chicagotribune.com, suntimes.com, latimes.com, sfexaminer.com, oregonian.com, usatoday.com, time.com, washingtonpost.com, nysun.com, cbsnews.com, npr.org, guardian.co.uk, nj.com, nhpr.com, huffingtonpost.com, thestar.com, usnews.com, slate.com, newsweek.com.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 02:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I was diagnosed with a rare eye cancer in 2004. I live in Ontario Canada. Quite frankly the specialists didn't quite know how to approach treating it. It was clinically termed non hodgkins malt lymphoma of the lacrimal gland. I am quite willing to submit medical documentation if requested. I had a biopsy to confirm but tumor was not debulked. It was scary hearing the oncologists state they had never treated this before. I suggested removal of the eye but they had hope for me. I was radiated with 3000 rads in 15 sessions from various angles. I contacted the Canadian Cancer Society as well as the American Cancer Assoc. but no one on file had "my cancer in my strange location". Long story short end result was loss of all teeth, trigeminal nerve damage which was avulsed in 2007 and I will have intercranial brain side ganglion cluster cutalage (cut) Jan 17/11 now 6 years post radiation. I am still trying to get back a painfree life. I had a lens implant done on the left eye but the retina cracked "like styrofoam" and bled obscuring vision in that eye. The right eye is slowly still developing a cataract and will require lens implant with hopefully a better result then the left. Maybe my lacrimal lymphoma experience and all its terrible treatment side effects will help will help future patients and doctors succeed at a better outcome then I got. As I await brain surgery I think of all the things I wish O had had the chance to do in life many regrets. But I did spend most of my years being a great mother to my 2 sons. If the right eye should also respond as the left did I will be clinically blind. The right lens is slowly clouding over. I do wish I had the opportunity to meet Gabriel Byrne as we share a great grand parent in Ireland and my dad was a WW11 Irish Regiment veteran. My husband is a Canadian Armed Forces veteran as well honorably discharged.
Sincerely Emilie LaMarsh - Allan Ontario Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.110.246.15 ( talk) 02:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm doubtful about the content balance of this article and about whether it's just been reduced to PR material. Is it possible to review this with anyone with a view to maybe having it removed? -- Drewpuppy ( talk) 11:47, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Dubious article. No references in Indian, British or US press. Removed unsourced material.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 00:56, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I worry about the notability of the page Paul Vigay. The page is practically an orphan and seems to have been created in the weeks after his death. Is this an example of a memorial?-- Flibble ( talk) 18:49, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I would like to add a new page on Indie Screenings (www.indiescreenings.net) - an online film distribution system. The system gives anyone anywhere access the opportunity to purchase ato licenses to screen certain independent films, hold a screening in the location of their choice and keep any revenue for themselves. It launched with Franny Armstrong's climate change blockbuster The Age of Stupid.
Indie Screenings has been taken up by Channel 4's BRITDOC Foundation under the guise of 'Good Screenings' (www.goodscreenings.net). They feature only award-winning social justice films.
Currently Indie Screenings is referenced on a number of wikipedia entries (some i made myself) - ie The Age of Stupid, Nicholas Stern, Baron Stern of Brentford.
FILMS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE on Good Screenings - The Battle for Barking 1.4 Billion Reasons The Yes Men Fix the World Heavy Load Chosen The Age of Stupid In the Land of the Free McLibel The End of the Line The Day after Peace Erasing David Moving to Mars The Hunger Season The Reckoning
I wanted to check that you felt this a suitable topic for a new page before i went any further than just thinking about it.
Thank you. Madsy19 ( talk) 18:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
The problem: a few months ago, some fellow thought he saw a woman using a cell phone in 1928, gleaned from the public premiere footage of the 1928 film
The Circus. He made a YouTube video of it, and it quickly picked up millions (at last count, I think it was 10's of millions). Major news outlets picked up the story, and it was all over the news for about a week or so.
In the article, there was a lot of resistance towards mentioning the observation at all, citing that it wasn't related to the actual film, but instead to a supplementary reel included in the DVD set that filmed the premiere of the movie at Mann's Chinese Theater. After a lot of (heated) discussion, the event was whittled down to just a mention in the "See Also" section, and wikilinked to Internet Phenomena.
The article has pretty much languished both before and after this kerfuffle, seeing little int he way of expansion.
Recently, there's been a push to remove it from both places, leaving the article with no reference of the matter at all. I am of the opinion that the event should be included, in a popular cultural reference section, which would look something like
this. I don't think that the event could stand in an article all by itself, as has been recommended by at least one person (which to me seems like a sneaky way to simple delete the content indirectly); I am fairly certain that few pop cultural references could survive in their own article, especially when it seem inextricably linked to the film and it's premiere.
It was suggested that some input and insight could be garnered here, and I am always in favor of widening a loop instead of keep it down to a small group of exclusionists (perhaps a faintly unfriendly assessment, but a valid one indeed, considering the lack of expansion in the article by anyone seeking to nix any mention of this matter). Any thoughts on the matter would be very helpful. -
Jack Sebastian (
talk) 05:29, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Again, I'd like to get some input from editors who aren't actively involved in the disagreement in the article to participate in this discussion; most of us in the dispute are already of a cemented opinion on the matter, and many are not really in a collaborative mood. I'd like to hear from others and get some new ideas. - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 19:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
I have now created a page. Slatersteven ( talk) 13:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Titor and Philadelphia should be summarised and a {{main}} hatnote should link to the full articles. Stuart.Jamieson ( talk) 19:27, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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Your ideas sought on
The Critical Badger
70.134.227.168 (
talk) 07:29, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Based on the sparse content and the dearth of independent source coverage, I don't think that the subject of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ScanScout satisfies notability guidelines. It seems to me that the company, or an affiliate, is simply trying to push a PR effort by utilizing wikipedia, but had little third-party information to work with. And anyway, isn't the cited website "crunchbase" the equivalent of a corporate profile wikipedia? In which case, how good a third-party source is it?
To be honest, the main reason I ask is because a company I work for, a competitor of ScanScout, has asked me to write something for our company, but even if done neutrally, I don't believe it is possible to write a solid wikipedia aritcle because I'd be pulling from the same types of sources. I don't think either of our companies has done anything that I would categorize as "notable" to a public outside of the advertising community. Please advise me, one way or the other, as I don't want to adulterate the wikipedia universe with another strained attempt at a notable page... Kmcq ( talk) 15:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Great advice and I appreciate the referral to LUC, as public perception was certainly something I was taking into consideration--having a disputed wikipedia page is exactly what you say: a PR liability. As far as crunchbase goes, I see what you mean about the external links; I wouldn't be surprised if a few, if not the bulk of the cited articles were spoon-fed by PR pitches and releases, but that's not to say that they're necessarily filled with false information, unfounded claims, or insignificance. In any case, until something encyclopedically significant happens with my company, I'll direct any cataloging efforts to crunchbase. Thanks for your input. Kmcq ( talk) 20:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
I attempted my first Wikipedia "Book," page for "Hitchhiking with Larry David," by Paul Samuel Dolman. This does satisfy Wikipedia: Notability /Book #1. Outside References. Does this satisfy wiki notability, or is the problem with the reference structure? LD'sHitchhiker ( talk) 22:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
A publishing company opened in 2009 in Norwich by Robin Jones, Ashley Stokes, Dan Nyman and Ian Nettleton. They aim to publish fiction adn non-fiction that has no outlet in today's mainstream culture. Their first novel "Touching the Starfish" by Ashley Stokes was released on 01/02/10 (English date) They are releasing thier second book, "The Unthology No.1", hopefully a book that shall start a series of short pieces from authors around the world, on 02/12/10 (English date). As is apparent with the palindromic dates of the published books, Unthank Books pride themselves on fronting the aesthetics of writing instead of following "what the market want". They define themselves with the principle that they stray from the mainstream and are interested in innovative and important literary fiction.
Unthank Books called themselves so for four reasons:" 1) After a thirteenth century term of holding land without consent; 2)After a city in Alisdair Grey's book "Lanark"; 3) After a road in the Publishing company's home, Norwich; 4) Because they like it."
They are also running Unthank School Of Writers (U.S.O.W), a writing school with introductory and advanced classes in prose and poetry. Although under the same umbrella as Unthank Books, they are insistant that writing within these classes does not give publication by Unthank. The courses are run by Sarah Bower (Introductory Prose), Ashley Stokes (Advanced Prose) Helen Ivory (Introductory Poetry), Andrew McDonnell (Advanced Poetry), Ian Nettleton (Introductory Screenwriting) and Christabelle Dilks (Advanced Screenwriting).
-- Subtlefaery ( talk) 09:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Unthank School Of Writers (U.S.O.W) is a sister company to Unthank Books. It aims to give lessons from professional tutors, with introductory and advanced classes in prose and poetry. Although under the same umbrella as Unthank Books, they are insistant that writing within these classes does not give publication by Unthank. The courses are run by Sarah Bower (Introductory Prose), Ashley Stokes (Advanced Prose) Helen Ivory (Introductory Poetry), Andrew McDonnell (Advanced Poetry), Ian Nettleton (Introductory Screenwriting) and Christabelle Dilks (Advanced Screenwriting).
-- Subtlefaery ( talk) 09:39, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I have a question about professional certification and its associated spin-outs ( professional certification (Business), professional certification (Computer technology), List of Chiropractic Credentials, etc.). To me, these look like blatant WP:ARTSPAM, places to list one's own company's designations. (I was drawn into this because of this edit, which adds redlinks for certifications for a company deleted for failing notability.) This seems an abuse of lists, no? RJC Talk Contribs 20:19, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Re: this talk page [1]one editor has removed Selby Bacqwa from the article/list because "Baqwa does not have a Wikipedia article to establish her notability" Other editors on the page assert that whether a person has a Wiki bio or not isn't a determining factor for inclusion on this list. Case in point is Selby Baqwa whose name has appeared in more than 100 news articles according to a search of Google News Archives. [2] So the question is: Is Selby Baqwa notable enough to be included in this article/list regardless of the fact that at the present time there is no Wiki bio about him? Thank you for your input.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 02:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay so the argument is 1. He's independently notable, 2. He practices TM, and therefore can be included in the list... and I have it wrong that he needs to be notable for TM per se. Why don't you just start a stub on him? You only need one RS. BE——Critical__ Talk 23:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I did it for you. BE——Critical__ Talk 01:20, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I made an edit with minor wording:
Revision as of 14:43, 25 October 2010
It said: "...was lecturer at the Picmet, Portland International Conference On Management Of Engineering And Technology" with this reference:
Later, wording was changed to this, by editor SlimVirgin with reference remaining:
"...and in 2003 he spoke at the Portland International Conference On Management Of Engineering And Technology."
But today, almost a month later, another editor, User:Drmies, removed this text, along with the reference I inserted. Drmies' edit summary, (rationale,) was this:
→ "he spoke at a conference? wow. rm entirely trivial fact (it's from a sixty-page program) that belongs on a resume"
I would like to know, whether this event, in Portland, is notable enough to be mentioned in the article:
Ref.→ Reisman Lecturer at Picmet 2003 Picmet.org, Sessions p.88 TB-10.2 [Right] Transfer of Technologies: A Meta Taxonomy, Arnold Reisman; Sabanci University, Turkey. Retrieved 2010-10-25.
Thanks. Fusion Is the Future 16:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Please could someone on animals check WP:VPP#BLP query? Simply south ( talk) 01:12, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand what is considered notable for works of art. Why do actual artworks, such as paintings or sculptures, etc not have a specific notability guideline? A specific question that I have is 'are individual works of notable artists considered notable'? Swarm X 20:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
This possibly autobiographical article has me wondering whether this is a fit subject. It certainly needs a rewrite (by someone not called "Windisch-Graetz").
Previous versions seem to assert that he is the Maltese ambassador to Slovakia, which is one thing, yet this source, indicates that he is the 'ambassador' of a Catholic organisation, not the Government of Malta. Any ideas? Or pointers to where I can find out more? pablo 11:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Please cancel this request as the article appears to have been previously deleted for the same reason. JRPG ( talk) 16:50, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
DAEDALUS PRODUCTIONS, INC., is a not-for-profit film and television production company established in 1980 by NINA ROSENBLUM and DANIEL V. ALLENTUCK to produce non-fiction television for network, public and cable markets as well as theatrical feature documentaries and dramatic films. Specializing in international co-production, Daedalus has won numerous awards and is a highly respected member of the worldwide non-fiction community. Co-producing partners include CPB, PBS, TBS, HBO, WDR/GERMANY, LA SEPT/FRANCE, CANAL + SPAIN, SBS/AUSTRALIA. NNA ROSENBLUM and DANIEL V. ALLENTUCK, in collaboration with their esteemed board of advisors, are involved with all aspects of production from script to completed film. Daedalus Productions works with the finest talents in the entertainment world to create non-fiction films and television that utilize the best of contemporary scholarship and professional expertise to push the boundaries of the medium, widen its audience, educate and inform. The focus of Daedalus Producgtions, Inc. is human rights, history and culture. LIBERATORS: FIGHTING ON TWO FRONTS IN WWII, produced by Miles Educational Films Inc. and directed by Nina Rosenblum and William Miles was nominated for an Academy Award for feature documentary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louverture ( talk • contribs) 12:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
This article is written by the publisher of the Magazine, (we/our). I can find no secondary reference to the magazine. Is it actually worth editing or should it be deleted as not notable? Thanks Mark Dask 20:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
This article has references - all of which promote itself. I have proposed it for deletion - but what of the series of articles that depend upon it for notability? I have proposed several for deletion - and risk being blocked for multiple deletion - (I was blocked once for multiple deletions)~. Am I right to propose Discogs for deletion??? in which case a number of articles fall. Mark Dask 20:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to post a writeup about Torry Harris Business Solutions, a Bangalore based IT services company, but the article was deleted with one of reasons being quoted as 'Not Notable'. Kindly request your opinion on the notability factor given the following references: The company has been identified as a leader in SOA integration http://www.forrester.com/rb/Research/wave™_emea_soa_systems_integrators,_q2_2009/q/id/46711/t/2
The company has been identified as a Cool Vendor in Application Integration by Gartner http://www.gartner.com/technology/research/offer/cool-vendors.jsp
The company has been listed amongst the top 20 US based Indian IT services companies by a survey by SiliconIndia http://www.siliconindia.com/SI100_2010/it.html
Kindly let me know your views.
Regards,
Bharat.mk ( talk) 05:43, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
With regards to the linked article: Do announcements or reviews count as significant coverage? -- Bk314159 ( Talk to me and find out what I've done) 15:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
As far as I can determine this person is a soccer/football player on the national team from Thailand. I spent about 15 minutes trying to find references for him. At present there are no references. I could not find coverage of him in perhaps 10 Thai (English-language) newspapers and magazines, world magazines. I tried different spellings of his name. It's possible there are articles about him in Thai publications (in Thai) which may be found. My sense is there isn't much published information about him. I'm not sure what the rules regarding WP:Notability are for sports figures; if they plan on a national team, then is that notable in itself?-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 15:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Notability concerns. See Talk:Zahoor Ahmed Shah. No mention in these publications: indiacurrents.com, littleindia.com, indiatoday.in OR sitethokalath.com, ververonline.com, indiamagazine.com, asianage.com, aniin.com, thehindubusinessline.com, businessreviewindia.in, dnaindia.com, expressindia.com, hardnewsmedia.com, hinduonnet.com, hindustantimes.com, indiadaily.com, indianexpress.com, mumbaimirror.com, rediff.com. December 2010.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 02:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I submitted an entry for a recent terrorist event in Denmark, which was rejected.
This event is notable because it has been described by Danish officials as the worst/greatest terror plan in the country. It is notable because it has 1600+ articles on google news.
Please reconsider adopting this page for a wikipedia entry. 81.227.230.210 ( talk) 13:58, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by G-MoneyMusic ( talk • contribs) 20:12, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
The Maccabeats ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I put a notability template on this article and raised the issue of whether the article is sufficiently notable on its Talk page. So far, I've captured the attention of only one other editor. I've pretty much expressed my views in that one discussion and have nothing much to add here. Essentially, I don't believe the group meets the criteria in WP:BAND. The group performed one video/song. It captured the attention of a lot of people on the Internet (YouTube) and the mainstream press. That's pretty much it. I thought about proposing the article for deletion but I wanted more discussion first. Unfortunately, although I appreciate the one other editor's responses, no one else has, which means the discussion has been pretty limited.
I will post a message on the article's Talk page and on the one editor's Talk page about this discussion.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 13:21, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Question. Well, DRosenbach and I have had a very pleasant, civil conversation about the article, but we could have remained on the article's Talk page for that. Isn't anyone else going to comment on the issues presented?-- Bbb23 ( talk) 00:27, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
This article refers to a defunct website about theater in Washington, DC. It seems not notable. PixiesAreNice ( talk) 00:42, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
This article is a copy/pasted bio of a dancer, whom I don't believe meets the notability requirements. PixiesAreNice ( talk) 01:14, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
The external links are spam and don't lead (as far as I can determine) to any information on this person. There are no references of a person with this name in the following media:
Dutch newspapers amsterdam-idea.nl, dutchinamerica.com, dnd.nl, dutchinternationalsociety.org, dutchnews.nl, expatica.com/nl, nisnews.nl, rnw.nl/english, godutch.com/newspaper Sports sources athleticbusiness.com, athlonsports.com, camelotsportsmedia.com, espn.go.com, insidesport.com.au, iplayoutside.com, sportingnews.com, sportsillustrated.cnn.com, world-newspapers.com/car-racing.html Major US newspapers wsj.com, nytimes.com, boston.com, miamiherald.com, post-gazette.com, chicagotribune.com, suntimes.com, latimes.com, sfexaminer.com, oregonian.com, usatoday.com, time.com, washingtonpost.com, nysun.com, cbsnews.com, npr.org, guardian.co.uk, nj.com, nhpr.com, huffingtonpost.com, thestar.com, usnews.com, slate.com, newsweek.com Major newspapers worldwide guardian.co.uk, usatoday.com, france24.com/en, chinadaily.com.cn, english.aljazeera.net, indiatoday.in, economist.com, news.bbc.co.uk, journalperu.com, adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English, brazzil.com, rnw.nl/english. Did a PROD. Tomwsulcer ( talk) 12:49, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
There was no mention of this person in January 2011 using any of these spellings:
"Maka'ala Yates" OR "Maka ala Yates" OR "Makaala Yates"
... in any of the following news sources:
Hawaiian publications: staradvertiser.com, hawaiitribune-herald.com, westhawaiitoday.com, mauinews.com, allhawaiinews.com, hawaiinewsdaily.com
US or world newspapers: wsj.com, nytimes.com, boston.com, miamiherald.com, post-gazette.com, chicagotribune.com, suntimes.com, latimes.com, sfexaminer.com, oregonian.com, usatoday.com, time.com, washingtonpost.com, nysun.com, cbsnews.com, npr.org, guardian.co.uk, nj.com, nhpr.com, huffingtonpost.com, thestar.com, usnews.com, slate.com, newsweek.com, guardian.co.uk, usatoday.com, france24.com/en, chinadaily.com.cn, english.aljazeera.net, indiatoday.in, economist.com, news.bbc.co.uk, journalperu.com, adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English, brazzil.com, rnw.nl/english -- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 19:43, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
There was no mention of this person in January 2011 using any of these spellings:
"Mariana Fuentes"
... in any of the following news sources:
Venezuelan publications: english.eluniversal.com, latin-focus.com, latinpetroleum.com, vcrisis.com, veneconomia.com, venezuelanalysis.com
US or world newspapers: wsj.com, nytimes.com, boston.com, miamiherald.com, post-gazette.com, chicagotribune.com, suntimes.com, latimes.com, sfexaminer.com, oregonian.com, usatoday.com, time.com, washingtonpost.com, nysun.com, cbsnews.com, npr.org, guardian.co.uk, nj.com, nhpr.com, huffingtonpost.com, thestar.com, usnews.com, slate.com, newsweek.com, guardian.co.uk, usatoday.com, france24.com/en, chinadaily.com.cn, english.aljazeera.net, indiatoday.in, economist.com, news.bbc.co.uk, journalperu.com, adnkronos.com/IGN/Aki/English, brazzil.com, rnw.nl/english
Entertainment magazines: ew.com, divatvmagazine.com, realitytvmagazine.com, entertainmentavenue.com, hellomagazine.com, hollywoodreporter.com, instyle.com, themightyorgan.com, okmagazine.com, people.com, popmatters.com, radaronline.com, thecelebritycafe.com, urban75.com, usmagazine.com, variety.com)
TV newspapers: digitalspy.co.uk, cable360.net, atnzone.com, realitynewsonline.com, realscreen.com, smarttvandsound.com, telechimp.com, tvweek.com, tvguide.com, tvrundown.com, videoageinternational.com, videography.com-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 21:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
See Template:Homalin Township. I am building coverage of Burma on here and will be tackling the main towns/villages of each township first. To delete the templates would be counterproductive, especially when they would only be restarted again. Have patience and allow things to develop. At some stage mass dabbing will be done, hopefully be a bot and linkes will be fixed and articles started.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:00, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Notability (geography). Perhaps you should view these images of the people who inhabit these villages. It might be a real eye opener.. But my intention is not to start every single village (at least not in the near future)... I've created templates so I can cross cut from one township to the other and start the most notable towns/villages first like Kutkai, Onbet etc. Building will take time and patience. Most townships will have at least 10 villages which have some information in a British Burmese gazeteer to make it a worthy stub..♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Eh, I've started 68,000 articles which still exist. That should vouch for something in such a deletionist environment that I clearly have an idea of what is notable... You claim you have no experience in talking about settlement notability, I've had this conversation 10,000 times before.. Did you not read what I said? I said I will find settlements by google maps (by actual village size) and then find sources in google books to start them...♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure there are lots of villages where there's content to create useful articles, but I suspect there are also villages where there may never be any such content. IMO there's no rush to create articles for places before we know whether there is. As a bare minimum I think there should be some sort of claim to notability in the article, such as it having a population over a certain threshold, or that something interesting has happened there, or something else that in any way adds notability to the place. The first nine places linked from {{ Homalin Township}} which you mentioned earlier don't have any such claim. Why must we create these articles before we know if there's ever going to be anything else added to them. Wouldn't it be better to first check to see if there is any info about them (in Google Books or elsewhere) before creating them? If I were to draw a line of when to create a new article and when not to, it would be between the ninth link and the tenth. -- Mepolypse ( talk) 22:47, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
Notability concerns. Probably a British soap opera actress. But no mention of her in British or American press, entertainment/TV sources, worldwide newspapers. the following: thesun.co.uk, guardian.co.uk, telegraph.co.uk, independent.co.uk, dailynewspaper.co.uk, dailymail.co.uk, thetimes.co.uk, bbc.co.uk, ew.com, divatvmagazine.com, realitytvmagazine.com, entertainmentavenue.com, hellomagazine.com, hollywoodreporter.com, instyle.com, themightyorgan.com, okmagazine.com, people.com, popmatters.com, radaronline.com, thecelebritycafe.com, urban75.com, usmagazine.com, variety.com, digitalspy.co.uk, cable360.net, atnzone.com, realitynewsonline.com, realscreen.com, smarttvandsound.com, telechimp.com, tvweek.com, tvguide.com, tvrundown.com, videoageinternational.com, videography.com, wsj.com, nytimes.com, boston.com, miamiherald.com, post-gazette.com, chicagotribune.com, suntimes.com, latimes.com, sfexaminer.com, oregonian.com, usatoday.com, time.com, washingtonpost.com, nysun.com, cbsnews.com, npr.org, guardian.co.uk, nj.com, nhpr.com, huffingtonpost.com, thestar.com, usnews.com, slate.com, newsweek.com.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 02:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I was diagnosed with a rare eye cancer in 2004. I live in Ontario Canada. Quite frankly the specialists didn't quite know how to approach treating it. It was clinically termed non hodgkins malt lymphoma of the lacrimal gland. I am quite willing to submit medical documentation if requested. I had a biopsy to confirm but tumor was not debulked. It was scary hearing the oncologists state they had never treated this before. I suggested removal of the eye but they had hope for me. I was radiated with 3000 rads in 15 sessions from various angles. I contacted the Canadian Cancer Society as well as the American Cancer Assoc. but no one on file had "my cancer in my strange location". Long story short end result was loss of all teeth, trigeminal nerve damage which was avulsed in 2007 and I will have intercranial brain side ganglion cluster cutalage (cut) Jan 17/11 now 6 years post radiation. I am still trying to get back a painfree life. I had a lens implant done on the left eye but the retina cracked "like styrofoam" and bled obscuring vision in that eye. The right eye is slowly still developing a cataract and will require lens implant with hopefully a better result then the left. Maybe my lacrimal lymphoma experience and all its terrible treatment side effects will help will help future patients and doctors succeed at a better outcome then I got. As I await brain surgery I think of all the things I wish O had had the chance to do in life many regrets. But I did spend most of my years being a great mother to my 2 sons. If the right eye should also respond as the left did I will be clinically blind. The right lens is slowly clouding over. I do wish I had the opportunity to meet Gabriel Byrne as we share a great grand parent in Ireland and my dad was a WW11 Irish Regiment veteran. My husband is a Canadian Armed Forces veteran as well honorably discharged.
Sincerely Emilie LaMarsh - Allan Ontario Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.110.246.15 ( talk) 02:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm doubtful about the content balance of this article and about whether it's just been reduced to PR material. Is it possible to review this with anyone with a view to maybe having it removed? -- Drewpuppy ( talk) 11:47, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Dubious article. No references in Indian, British or US press. Removed unsourced material.-- Tomwsulcer ( talk) 00:56, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I worry about the notability of the page Paul Vigay. The page is practically an orphan and seems to have been created in the weeks after his death. Is this an example of a memorial?-- Flibble ( talk) 18:49, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I would like to add a new page on Indie Screenings (www.indiescreenings.net) - an online film distribution system. The system gives anyone anywhere access the opportunity to purchase ato licenses to screen certain independent films, hold a screening in the location of their choice and keep any revenue for themselves. It launched with Franny Armstrong's climate change blockbuster The Age of Stupid.
Indie Screenings has been taken up by Channel 4's BRITDOC Foundation under the guise of 'Good Screenings' (www.goodscreenings.net). They feature only award-winning social justice films.
Currently Indie Screenings is referenced on a number of wikipedia entries (some i made myself) - ie The Age of Stupid, Nicholas Stern, Baron Stern of Brentford.
FILMS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE on Good Screenings - The Battle for Barking 1.4 Billion Reasons The Yes Men Fix the World Heavy Load Chosen The Age of Stupid In the Land of the Free McLibel The End of the Line The Day after Peace Erasing David Moving to Mars The Hunger Season The Reckoning
I wanted to check that you felt this a suitable topic for a new page before i went any further than just thinking about it.
Thank you. Madsy19 ( talk) 18:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
The problem: a few months ago, some fellow thought he saw a woman using a cell phone in 1928, gleaned from the public premiere footage of the 1928 film
The Circus. He made a YouTube video of it, and it quickly picked up millions (at last count, I think it was 10's of millions). Major news outlets picked up the story, and it was all over the news for about a week or so.
In the article, there was a lot of resistance towards mentioning the observation at all, citing that it wasn't related to the actual film, but instead to a supplementary reel included in the DVD set that filmed the premiere of the movie at Mann's Chinese Theater. After a lot of (heated) discussion, the event was whittled down to just a mention in the "See Also" section, and wikilinked to Internet Phenomena.
The article has pretty much languished both before and after this kerfuffle, seeing little int he way of expansion.
Recently, there's been a push to remove it from both places, leaving the article with no reference of the matter at all. I am of the opinion that the event should be included, in a popular cultural reference section, which would look something like
this. I don't think that the event could stand in an article all by itself, as has been recommended by at least one person (which to me seems like a sneaky way to simple delete the content indirectly); I am fairly certain that few pop cultural references could survive in their own article, especially when it seem inextricably linked to the film and it's premiere.
It was suggested that some input and insight could be garnered here, and I am always in favor of widening a loop instead of keep it down to a small group of exclusionists (perhaps a faintly unfriendly assessment, but a valid one indeed, considering the lack of expansion in the article by anyone seeking to nix any mention of this matter). Any thoughts on the matter would be very helpful. -
Jack Sebastian (
talk) 05:29, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Again, I'd like to get some input from editors who aren't actively involved in the disagreement in the article to participate in this discussion; most of us in the dispute are already of a cemented opinion on the matter, and many are not really in a collaborative mood. I'd like to hear from others and get some new ideas. - Jack Sebastian ( talk) 19:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
I have now created a page. Slatersteven ( talk) 13:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Titor and Philadelphia should be summarised and a {{main}} hatnote should link to the full articles. Stuart.Jamieson ( talk) 19:27, 8 January 2011 (UTC)