- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 02:22, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Greek mythology
Stillborn portal. Four selected articles, 14 selected deities, six selected heroes, eight selected creatures, none of which have been updated since April 2010. DYK written in in-universe style. Mark Schierbecker ( talk) 21:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per the nom. This portal has been abandoned for over nine years since creation. Since late 2006, the lead of WP:POG has said "Do not expect other editors to maintain a portal you create" ... and this one has not been maintained by Belovedfreak, who dumped it in April 2010, less then two weeks after creation, and left portal space in April 2011. They also created numerus other portals that were later abandoned: Portal:Burkina Faso, Portal:Gabon, Portal:Mauritius, Portal:Niger, Portal:Togo, and recreated after deletion Portal:Sudan and Portal:Botswana. The portal clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of maintainers and readers. This portal has had over nine years of no maintainers and it had a low 35 views per day from January 1 - June 30 2019 (despite the head article Greek mythology having 3,681 views per day in the same period). This is a steady long term decline from 55 views per day from July 1 - Dec. 30 2015.
- POG also states portals should be associated with a wikiproject, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Mythology is labeled semi-active, the portal is not mentioned by name on the main page, and as far as I can tell the portal has never been mentioned on the talk page and no one responded to an August "Call for portal maintainers" for Portal:Mythology. Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as a decade of hard evidence shows Greek mythology is not a broad enough topic to attract readers or maintainers. Newshunter12 ( talk) 00:07, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Myths + Portal:Ancient Greece), without creating duplicate entries. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 10:03, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Selected Religion and Philosophy Portals
| Title | Portal Page Views | Article Page Views | Percent | Comments | Articles | Notes | Baseline | Deleted | Type |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Freemasonry | 14 | 9075 | 0.15% | Originated 2009 by sporadic editor, edited most recently Jan2019. Only 6 articles, not changed since 2010 with only minor tweaks, none since 2013. | 6 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Philosophy | |
| Jainism | 26 | 3736 | 0.70% | Originator edits sporadically, last in June 2019. Articles are from 2012 and 2016, only cosmetic edits since then. | 12 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Atheism | 27 | 2662 | 1.01% | Originator inactive since 2013. Articles selected in 2007, very little maintenance since 2010. | 95 | At least two articles have been blanked. | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Philosophy |
| Anglicanism | 32 | 1806 | 1.77% | Originated 2007 by editor who last edited 2010. | 40 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Greek mythology | 35 | 3681 | 0.95% | Originated 2010; originator edits sporadically, last in Apr 2019. | 35 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Buddhism | 51 | 7928 | 0.64% | Originator edits sporadically, last in June19. Articles created in 2009, only drive-by edits since then. | 26 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Religion | 78 | 2884 | 2.70% | Originator inactive since 2011. Has 85 articles and complete calendar, but no sign of maintenance since 2009. Jan-Feb19 views were 79, 2899. | 85 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Philosophy | 133 | 5339 | 2.49% | Originated 2006. Originator inactive since 2012. | 72 | Portal improved Sep 2019 by Northamerica1000. | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Philosophy |
Greek Mythology
- Weak Delete as an unmaintained portal that is well-viewed and reasonably broad in coverage, without prejudice to re-creation with a maintenance plan (with at least two maintainers) and a design that does not use content-forked subpages. (In-universe DYKs are in this content in my opinion harmless although silly.) Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete and oppose re-creation per Newshunter12. Overly specific, unnecessary portal, as demonstrated over time. -Crossroads- ( talk) 06:14, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete and oppose re-creation, per Mark Schierbecker and Newshunter12. Low readership + poor maintenance (with no response to request for maintainers) = clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete For all the reasons listed above. TrynaMakeADollar ( talk) 00:42, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 02:22, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Greek mythology
Stillborn portal. Four selected articles, 14 selected deities, six selected heroes, eight selected creatures, none of which have been updated since April 2010. DYK written in in-universe style. Mark Schierbecker ( talk) 21:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per the nom. This portal has been abandoned for over nine years since creation. Since late 2006, the lead of WP:POG has said "Do not expect other editors to maintain a portal you create" ... and this one has not been maintained by Belovedfreak, who dumped it in April 2010, less then two weeks after creation, and left portal space in April 2011. They also created numerus other portals that were later abandoned: Portal:Burkina Faso, Portal:Gabon, Portal:Mauritius, Portal:Niger, Portal:Togo, and recreated after deletion Portal:Sudan and Portal:Botswana. The portal clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of maintainers and readers. This portal has had over nine years of no maintainers and it had a low 35 views per day from January 1 - June 30 2019 (despite the head article Greek mythology having 3,681 views per day in the same period). This is a steady long term decline from 55 views per day from July 1 - Dec. 30 2015.
- POG also states portals should be associated with a wikiproject, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Mythology is labeled semi-active, the portal is not mentioned by name on the main page, and as far as I can tell the portal has never been mentioned on the talk page and no one responded to an August "Call for portal maintainers" for Portal:Mythology. Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as a decade of hard evidence shows Greek mythology is not a broad enough topic to attract readers or maintainers. Newshunter12 ( talk) 00:07, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Myths + Portal:Ancient Greece), without creating duplicate entries. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 10:03, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Selected Religion and Philosophy Portals
| Title | Portal Page Views | Article Page Views | Percent | Comments | Articles | Notes | Baseline | Deleted | Type |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Freemasonry | 14 | 9075 | 0.15% | Originated 2009 by sporadic editor, edited most recently Jan2019. Only 6 articles, not changed since 2010 with only minor tweaks, none since 2013. | 6 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Philosophy | |
| Jainism | 26 | 3736 | 0.70% | Originator edits sporadically, last in June 2019. Articles are from 2012 and 2016, only cosmetic edits since then. | 12 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Atheism | 27 | 2662 | 1.01% | Originator inactive since 2013. Articles selected in 2007, very little maintenance since 2010. | 95 | At least two articles have been blanked. | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Philosophy |
| Anglicanism | 32 | 1806 | 1.77% | Originated 2007 by editor who last edited 2010. | 40 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Greek mythology | 35 | 3681 | 0.95% | Originated 2010; originator edits sporadically, last in Apr 2019. | 35 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Buddhism | 51 | 7928 | 0.64% | Originator edits sporadically, last in June19. Articles created in 2009, only drive-by edits since then. | 26 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Religion | 78 | 2884 | 2.70% | Originator inactive since 2011. Has 85 articles and complete calendar, but no sign of maintenance since 2009. Jan-Feb19 views were 79, 2899. | 85 | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Religion | |
| Philosophy | 133 | 5339 | 2.49% | Originated 2006. Originator inactive since 2012. | 72 | Portal improved Sep 2019 by Northamerica1000. | Jan19-Jun19 | FALSE | Philosophy |
Greek Mythology
- Weak Delete as an unmaintained portal that is well-viewed and reasonably broad in coverage, without prejudice to re-creation with a maintenance plan (with at least two maintainers) and a design that does not use content-forked subpages. (In-universe DYKs are in this content in my opinion harmless although silly.) Robert McClenon ( talk) 15:17, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete and oppose re-creation per Newshunter12. Overly specific, unnecessary portal, as demonstrated over time. -Crossroads- ( talk) 06:14, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete and oppose re-creation, per Mark Schierbecker and Newshunter12. Low readership + poor maintenance (with no response to request for maintainers) = clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 22:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete For all the reasons listed above. TrynaMakeADollar ( talk) 00:42, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.