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The result of the discussion was: delete.
Whpq (
talk) 03:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Per
c:COM:FOP US, there is no freedom of panorama in the United States for 2D graphic works, whether displayed temporarily or permanently.
✗plicit 00:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: The image in question cannot be kept as free media due to the copyright issues cited by the nominator, nor should it be kept and relicensed as non-free, since I don't believe that it would meet the requirements for {{
Non-free 2D art}}. Additionally, after reviewing current uses of the image in question, it would more than likely fail
WP:NFCC#1 (replaceability by text) and
WP:NFCC#8 (contextual significance), in all five articles in which it is present.
FHSIG13TALK 05:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Two problems. Firstly, I cannot spot any "cover art" that would prevent us from uploading such a photo to Commons. Hence, it's not a fair use image. Secondly, and more importantly, this photo is under copyright as the website it's taken from does not publish its content under a free license. Schwede66 06:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Speedy Keep: Firstly, the image in question does appear to depict the covers of the books, so the license template used on the description page is valid, as far as I can tell. Secondly, if the image is copyrighted then fair-use is the only avenue through which it can be used on Wikipedia. Furthermore, the image appears to pass all 10
WP:NFCCP criteria, so I don't see any issue with maintaining the status quo here. As such, I am recommending
WP:SK, per Applicability point 3 (erroneous nomination).FHSIG13TALK 08:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, per all of the points made just above by Fhsig13.
Iljhgtn (
talk) 16:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep and relicense: Out of copyright. New Zealand copyright law stated that the work published prior to 1974 (50 years after creator's death) are public domain. The author died in 1963. In my opinion, its copyrights was already expired in 2013 then. The nomination is a bit erroneous but it's true.
Kys5g talk! 14:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete Fails
WP:NFCC#1. The book covers may be ineligible for copyright, but this image *is* a photograph which does have its own copyright that must be taken into account. I believe the slant and styling of the books depicted in the photograph may be creative enough to warrant the creation of a new copyright. Furthermore, the source website does not offer its content under a free license. As such, this should be treated as non-free. -
Fastily 08:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Fastily Thank you for that very helpful follow-up research. As a result of that clarification your provided vis-a-vis the issue of copyright status of the photograph itself, my original rationale no longer applies. As such, I have struck my original vote and am hereby changing to recommend deletion as the image does fail
WP:NFCC#1 when treated as non-free, since any willing individual could purchase a copies of these books, photograph the covers, and then release the photo(s) under free licensing since the books themselves are in the
Public Domain.
FHSIG13TALK 10:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was: delete.
Whpq (
talk) 03:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Per
c:COM:FOP US, there is no freedom of panorama in the United States for 2D graphic works, whether displayed temporarily or permanently.
✗plicit 00:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete: The image in question cannot be kept as free media due to the copyright issues cited by the nominator, nor should it be kept and relicensed as non-free, since I don't believe that it would meet the requirements for {{
Non-free 2D art}}. Additionally, after reviewing current uses of the image in question, it would more than likely fail
WP:NFCC#1 (replaceability by text) and
WP:NFCC#8 (contextual significance), in all five articles in which it is present.
FHSIG13TALK 05:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's
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Two problems. Firstly, I cannot spot any "cover art" that would prevent us from uploading such a photo to Commons. Hence, it's not a fair use image. Secondly, and more importantly, this photo is under copyright as the website it's taken from does not publish its content under a free license. Schwede66 06:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Speedy Keep: Firstly, the image in question does appear to depict the covers of the books, so the license template used on the description page is valid, as far as I can tell. Secondly, if the image is copyrighted then fair-use is the only avenue through which it can be used on Wikipedia. Furthermore, the image appears to pass all 10
WP:NFCCP criteria, so I don't see any issue with maintaining the status quo here. As such, I am recommending
WP:SK, per Applicability point 3 (erroneous nomination).FHSIG13TALK 08:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, per all of the points made just above by Fhsig13.
Iljhgtn (
talk) 16:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep and relicense: Out of copyright. New Zealand copyright law stated that the work published prior to 1974 (50 years after creator's death) are public domain. The author died in 1963. In my opinion, its copyrights was already expired in 2013 then. The nomination is a bit erroneous but it's true.
Kys5g talk! 14:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete Fails
WP:NFCC#1. The book covers may be ineligible for copyright, but this image *is* a photograph which does have its own copyright that must be taken into account. I believe the slant and styling of the books depicted in the photograph may be creative enough to warrant the creation of a new copyright. Furthermore, the source website does not offer its content under a free license. As such, this should be treated as non-free. -
Fastily 08:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Fastily Thank you for that very helpful follow-up research. As a result of that clarification your provided vis-a-vis the issue of copyright status of the photograph itself, my original rationale no longer applies. As such, I have struck my original vote and am hereby changing to recommend deletion as the image does fail
WP:NFCC#1 when treated as non-free, since any willing individual could purchase a copies of these books, photograph the covers, and then release the photo(s) under free licensing since the books themselves are in the
Public Domain.
FHSIG13TALK 10:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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