The article was delisted by DrKay via FACBot ( talk) 4:20, 22 March 2022 (UTC) [1].
This is a 2007 FA that has fallen out of standard, mostly due to lack of updates. The list of issues on talk is a year old, and includes sourcing issues, MOS matters, datedness, lack of comprehensiveness, and some boosterism. The article has good bones, so it would be a pity for it to be delisted, and hopefully someone will address the issues. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:49, 26 January 2022 (UTC) reply
SandyGeorgia, thank you for questioning MNopedia. I have no problems with their scholarship but failed to get them to cite their work back in 2013. - SusanLesch ( talk) 16:38, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Work continues.
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:43, 4 March 2022 (UTC) reply
I have restructured and worked back in to the appropriate place the older info on Lynchings and hangings. SusanLesch are you planning further writing? When you are close to finished, I will start examining sources and prose. Please let me know. After that, the lead will need to be re-worked. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:09, 6 March 2022 (UTC) reply
...Even today the U.S. federal government continues to be a significant player in the market for military-oriented systems integration. Many of the promotional activities, and a great deal of the market stimulus for computing can be traced to specific local instances of state activity, as this section outlines, including the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis and the University of Minnesota, and then (in the following sections) several innovative networks of computer users organized into the Minnesota Educational Computing Consortium, as well as the varied efforts, over two decades, to bring a statewide Internet network to Minnesota. These demand-side actors were no less important than the computer manufacturers themselves in making Minnesota a digital state. [skip a lot]
The Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis also developed unusually close relations with the University of Minnesota's data-driven economics department. Among many other prominent faculty, Walter Heller was a key economic adviser during the Kennedy and Johnson administrations and he subsequently build the department into one of national prominence. Economics, of course, was one of the earliest of the social sciences to enthusiastically adopt mathematics, statistics, data processing, and computing. Heller connected economics professors at the university with researchers at the Minneapolis Fed in the 1970s. He hired up-and-coming stars from the best universities around the country, enticing them with the promise of direct interaction with the data-rich Minneapolis Fed. By far the most important result of the university-Fed collaboration was its significant contributions to the currently dominant "rational expectations" school of data-driven macroeconomics. Among this notable group were Neil Wallace, Thomas J. Sargent, Christopher A. Sims, and Edward C. Prescott. Prescott, who won a Nobel Prize for related work in 2004 (as did Sargent and Sims in 2011), taught at the university for nearly a quarter-century, and today continues work at the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. Heller also hired Leonid Hurwicz, yet another economics Nobel laureate, who taught at the university for fifty-five years. His Nobel-cited specialty was in "mechanism design," or the devising of effective practical mechanisms to deal with imperfect markets. Ordinarily, one doesn't expect to find applications of Nobel Prizes directly in daily life, but Hurwicz, a lifelong politically active member of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, invented the "walking subcaucus" used by Minnesotans to nominate candidates. It is difficult to imagine this churn of economics--including four Nobel laureates--occurring in Minnesota if the upper Midwest Federal Reserve had been located anywhere else...."
I don't trust anything cited to TimePieces; it should all be reviewed and re-sourced to either the underlying literature given by the MNHS, or preferably, to newer sources. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 00:44, 7 March 2022 (UTC) reply
The sourcing here is rather a mess; there has been a very lax approach to source-to-text integrity. The appearance is that, at some point, people just wrote whatever they wanted to write and later stuck a source on it that sorta/kinda/maybe matched. Unless someone plans to undertake a line-by-line check and repair of all of the old sourcing, we should let this FA go. I have cleaned up a great deal, but do not intend to do the amount of work needed to salvage this star. Everything I check in the older parts fails verification and turns into a can of worms. SusanLesch as you are the only editor working towards saving this star, it may be up to you to decide if you are willing to take on the task of checking line-by-line and re-sourcing/re-writing as much as needed. The sourcing is not to a place such that it is worthwhile to begin copyediting, and there are still considerable copyedit needs. After a full day of working on this article, replacing and rewriting what I could, and having checked a miniscule amount of the sources, there are nonetheless 2 non-reliable sources remaining, 9 failed verification tags (so far), 13 page needed tags, and 6 citation needed tags. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:29, 7 March 2022 (UTC) reply
The article was delisted by DrKay via FACBot ( talk) 4:20, 22 March 2022 (UTC) [1].
This is a 2007 FA that has fallen out of standard, mostly due to lack of updates. The list of issues on talk is a year old, and includes sourcing issues, MOS matters, datedness, lack of comprehensiveness, and some boosterism. The article has good bones, so it would be a pity for it to be delisted, and hopefully someone will address the issues. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 23:49, 26 January 2022 (UTC) reply
SandyGeorgia, thank you for questioning MNopedia. I have no problems with their scholarship but failed to get them to cite their work back in 2013. - SusanLesch ( talk) 16:38, 18 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Work continues.
SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:43, 4 March 2022 (UTC) reply
I have restructured and worked back in to the appropriate place the older info on Lynchings and hangings. SusanLesch are you planning further writing? When you are close to finished, I will start examining sources and prose. Please let me know. After that, the lead will need to be re-worked. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 17:09, 6 March 2022 (UTC) reply
...Even today the U.S. federal government continues to be a significant player in the market for military-oriented systems integration. Many of the promotional activities, and a great deal of the market stimulus for computing can be traced to specific local instances of state activity, as this section outlines, including the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis and the University of Minnesota, and then (in the following sections) several innovative networks of computer users organized into the Minnesota Educational Computing Consortium, as well as the varied efforts, over two decades, to bring a statewide Internet network to Minnesota. These demand-side actors were no less important than the computer manufacturers themselves in making Minnesota a digital state. [skip a lot]
The Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis also developed unusually close relations with the University of Minnesota's data-driven economics department. Among many other prominent faculty, Walter Heller was a key economic adviser during the Kennedy and Johnson administrations and he subsequently build the department into one of national prominence. Economics, of course, was one of the earliest of the social sciences to enthusiastically adopt mathematics, statistics, data processing, and computing. Heller connected economics professors at the university with researchers at the Minneapolis Fed in the 1970s. He hired up-and-coming stars from the best universities around the country, enticing them with the promise of direct interaction with the data-rich Minneapolis Fed. By far the most important result of the university-Fed collaboration was its significant contributions to the currently dominant "rational expectations" school of data-driven macroeconomics. Among this notable group were Neil Wallace, Thomas J. Sargent, Christopher A. Sims, and Edward C. Prescott. Prescott, who won a Nobel Prize for related work in 2004 (as did Sargent and Sims in 2011), taught at the university for nearly a quarter-century, and today continues work at the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. Heller also hired Leonid Hurwicz, yet another economics Nobel laureate, who taught at the university for fifty-five years. His Nobel-cited specialty was in "mechanism design," or the devising of effective practical mechanisms to deal with imperfect markets. Ordinarily, one doesn't expect to find applications of Nobel Prizes directly in daily life, but Hurwicz, a lifelong politically active member of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, invented the "walking subcaucus" used by Minnesotans to nominate candidates. It is difficult to imagine this churn of economics--including four Nobel laureates--occurring in Minnesota if the upper Midwest Federal Reserve had been located anywhere else...."
I don't trust anything cited to TimePieces; it should all be reviewed and re-sourced to either the underlying literature given by the MNHS, or preferably, to newer sources. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 00:44, 7 March 2022 (UTC) reply
The sourcing here is rather a mess; there has been a very lax approach to source-to-text integrity. The appearance is that, at some point, people just wrote whatever they wanted to write and later stuck a source on it that sorta/kinda/maybe matched. Unless someone plans to undertake a line-by-line check and repair of all of the old sourcing, we should let this FA go. I have cleaned up a great deal, but do not intend to do the amount of work needed to salvage this star. Everything I check in the older parts fails verification and turns into a can of worms. SusanLesch as you are the only editor working towards saving this star, it may be up to you to decide if you are willing to take on the task of checking line-by-line and re-sourcing/re-writing as much as needed. The sourcing is not to a place such that it is worthwhile to begin copyediting, and there are still considerable copyedit needs. After a full day of working on this article, replacing and rewriting what I could, and having checked a miniscule amount of the sources, there are nonetheless 2 non-reliable sources remaining, 9 failed verification tags (so far), 13 page needed tags, and 6 citation needed tags. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 03:29, 7 March 2022 (UTC) reply