The article was promoted by Ealdgyth via FACBot ( talk) 20 June 2020 [1].
I bring an article about a statue to your attention to be reviewed. In January when the Lexington–Concord Sesquicentennial half dollar had its day on the front page, I noticed that the statue on the obverse of the coin had no article. Over the past 5 months, I have dug into the literature and have moved the article from a DYK, to a GA, and now here. -- Guerillero | Parlez Moi 01:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
I see Ceoil is still ceing, so I'll pop in after he is done for more. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
That's all I've got. Ceoil is a more competent writer than I am, so I defer to him on all aspects and will wait to hear from others on comprehensiveness. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Leaning support, pending resolution of additional source from Wehwalt; please ping me if I forget to weigh in once Wehwalt is satisfied. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Source review - spotchecks not done
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Placeholder. Have read about half, and made trivial edits. Impressions are good...well written, short but to the point. Ceoil ( talk) 13:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I can hardly not review this, given your numismatic introduction.
"The statue's includes an inscription of Emerson's 1837 poem "Concord Hymn" with the famous lines "Here once the embattled farmers stood, And fired the shot heard round the the world" (3-4)." Richardson 2015
"The pedestal inscribed with the tag from Emerson's "Concord Hymn" thus memorializes these "embattled farmers" confronted and oppressed by an unwelcome presence from the start: "By the rude bridge that arched the flood,/Their flag to April's breeze unfurled,/Here once the embattled farmers stood,/And fired the shot heard round the world." Kowalski 2007
"As a finishing touch, artisans "chiseled and lettered" the pedestal's front panned with the stirring first stanza of Emerson's beloved July 4, 1837, poem, "Concord Hymn": "By the rude bridge that arched the flood,/Their flag to April's breeze unfurled,/Here once the embattled farmers stood,/And fired the shot heard round the world." Holzer 2019
I will change it to the first stanza. -- Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
A few more things on second look.
Hi Guerillero, I gather this would be your first FA if successful, so I'd like to see a spotcheck of sources for accurate use and avoidance of plagiarism or close paraphrasing. Any of the above reviewers can volunteer for this, or you can place a request at the top of WT:FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 06:42, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Reference # | Article claim | Source | Found on source page | Notes | Pass/needs attention |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
2 | Gross 2011, p. 58 | Powder Alarm, Sept 74, Minute men name | Powder Alarm, Sept 74, Minute men name | None | |
4 | Gross 2011, p. 69 | "drilling two and a half days a week" | "One shilling, eight pence for their time drilling three times a week" | Slight anomaly with the drilling time? | |
5 | Gross 2011, p. 68 | "emergency stockpiling…had fixed on Concord as the principle arsenal" | "designated Concord as the stockpile for patriot cannons, gunpowder, and ammunition" | Doesn't actually mention "Patriot cannons", but that can probably be intimated by context | |
7 | Gross 2011, p. 112 | "the spies report...Dartmouth...demanded action" | "reports from spies and instructions from…Dartmouth, Gage ordered a preemptive strike on Lexington and Concord" | Mostly OK, but can't see a mention of Lexington in a specific instruction, only "what neither side expected was the explosive combination of events", etc. | |
10 | Gross 2011, p. 117 | "Based on alerts from Prescott and reports from Lexington, 150 minutemen from Concord and Lincoln mustered on the Concord Common under the command of James Barrett." | "alerts from Prescott...reports from Lexington, 150 minutemen from Concord and Lincoln mustered...Common under the command of James Barrett." | Everything cited, but at this point I discovered that my hardcopy is slightly out of sync with the kindle edition used by the nominator! As such, this information is all contained in the source, but spread over a three-page range. Can the nom either confirm the material is all on one page or adjust it to a range? In any case, a couple of pages may always vary between editions, and that's insufficient to violate WP:V. | |
13 | Gross 2011, p. 122 f. | "cannon, musket balls, and flour...rendered unusable...gunpowder was removed before it could be seized" | "Regulars thæw 500 pounds of musket balls into the millpond, broke open sixty barrels of flour, knocked the trunions off...cannon ", and the gunpowder is on a guy's back | None | |
16 | Gross 2011, p. 126 | "minutemen who participated in the Battle of Concord went home after the British retreated from the bridge" | "the British...panicked and ran...the militiamen dispersed" | None | |
22a | Holzer 2019, p. 41 | "To the dislike of Emerson, the obelisk stands on the bank of the river where the British stood during battle" | "Ralph Waldo Emerson, often complained, the hallowed site had been marked only by an obelisk situated 'on the ground on which the enemy stood'" | I've got the Kindle edition of this too, but with no page numbers. This is the first page of Ch.2, so should easily be verified. Incidentally, if you have a way of creating page numbers for kindle, etc., editions, I'd love to hear it! | |
22a | Holzer 2019, p. 41 | "Unlike the earlier monument, it was to be placed on the bank where the Massachusetts militia stood" | "to erect a proper statue 'on the identical ground occupied by our minutemen and militia,'...and employed Daniel French to prepare a statue to be erected on the specified spot" | None | |
24a | Maas 2015 | "The statue was French's first full-size work; previously French had produced a bust of his father and one additional statue" | "'the guy had never done a [full-length] statue'...His previous work had included a bust of his father, Judge Henry Flagg French, and nature-inspired sculpture" | None | |
26 | Holzer 2019, p. 44 | "French researched The Minute Man by studying powder horns and buttons from the era" | "Keen on accuracy, twenty-one-year-old French purchased a genuine antique musket and borrowed an authentic eighteenth-century powder horn, copying both props faithfully"/"Neighbor Jacob Green lent...coat adorned with coin-size pewter buttons" | None | |
27 | Richman 1972, pp. 99–100 | "In 1873, his second clay model of the statue was accepted by the statue committee" | See note. | My reading is that this refers to the first model? And by the time the cttee saw it, hasn't it been cast in plaster? There is a second, lifesize, covered on p.101 and following; apologies if I've missed something. | |
29 | Richman 1972, p. 101 | "The pose of The Minute Man was made more natural in the enlargement process by working with models. By September 1874, the statue was completed and a plaster version of the clay statue was sent to Ames Manufacturing Works in Chicopee" | "Judd stood for me...the full-sized plaster was completed and it was then transferred from Boston to the Ames Foundry in Chicopee | None | |
32 | Eaton 2019 | "The statue was unveiled on April 19, 1875 during the centennial celebration of the battle of Battle of Concord, in a ceremony attended by Ulysses S. Grant and Ralph Waldo Emerson" | "The Minute Man monument...dedicated on April 19, 1875, the 100th anniversary...speeches by Emerson and other dignitaries. Sitting in the audience was President Ulysses S. Grant." | Can't see what n.33 brings to the table? (I can't access it, but Eaton seems to cover the essentials.) | |
35 | Kowalski 2007 | "The reworked statue cleaned up some imperfections in the face of the original statue and incorporated elements of Beaux-Arts. French made the movement of the new statue more fluid and natural" | "French endowed the smaller version with much smoother, more assured movement" | The reference to beaux-arts (note lower-case and italicised) is on p.49. Fluid and natural is fine, there's nothing specifically stating that there had been "imperfections in the face of the original statue" that needed cleaning. If it's on another page, could this be checked, otherwise reworded. | |
37b | Richman 1972, p. 43 | "A powder horn, mistakenly, sits on the man's back instead of on his hip where it can be used" | Richman 1972's page range is 96-115. | ||
38a | Bergeron 2013 | "His face is alert while his eyes are transfixed on the battle that he is ready to march into" | "His hat tilted at a jaunty angle, the Minute Man holds his rifle in one hand and plough in the other, gazing toward the coming battle at 'the rude bridge' in Concord with a farmer-turned-warrior’s heroic resolution" | Nothing about his alert physog though :) and is "gaze" really synonymous with "transfixed", I wonder? You could quote the whole "farmer-turned-warrior" thing for much the same effect. FWIW, Richman 1972 p.102 refers to teh minute man as "full of determination and fire", if you want to use that. | |
40 | Howard 1906, pp. 549–550 | "Eighteenth-century and nineteenth-century art critics, such as Lorado Taft and H. C. Howard, have suggested that the pose was directly copied from the Roman sculpture. Howard in particular trivializes the sculpture as "little more than an Americanized rendition of the Apollo Belvedere" | "As a matter of fact, the young farmer is little more than an Americanized rendition of the Apollo Belvedere" | The reference to 18th/19th-C. critics, and Raft, in particular, needs referencing. Taft is mentioned by Howard 5/6 pages later, but that's in connection with another piece. (You could use Richman 1972 p.99, who quotes Taft "with the exception of the left arm, the pose is almost identical"). Neither of them were 18th century. | |
42 | Holzer 2019, p. 45 | "Beneath the pedestal is a copper time capsule from 1875 that contains items from past celebrations of the battle, maps, and photographs of both the sculpture and sculptor" | "Installed over a time capsule—a copper box stuffed with maps and relics from previous battle commemorations, along with photographs of the statue and its sculptor" | None | |
44b | Minute Man National Historical Park | "In 1975, a second time capsule was placed beneath the pedestal that included Girl Scouts USA pins, the United States Bicentennial's flag, and a cassette tape" | " Contents of this second time capsule are: microfilm containing images of letters, photographs and scrapbooks made by the Girl Scouts; a cassette tape with “The Sounds of Concord”; an American flag; a Bicentennial flag; military patches; Girl Scout pins; and money" | You could've added more items, by the way: a plain list is not an original work! | |
47 | Seaton-Schmidt 1922, p. 3 | "Anna Seaton-Schmidt referred to it as "the most inspiring of our solder monuments" in her 1922 biography of French in The American Magazine of Art" | "one of the most inspiring of our solder monuments". | It should be clarified either that she was writing in the 20s, or that—even then—she said it was "one of". There are, after all, other pretty inspiring soldier monuments, so as a statement it's not likely to go unchallenged :) | |
49 | Richardson 2015, pp. 35–39 | "Alcott and other suffragettes appropriated the statue as a symbol of their struggle for voting rights, and the suffragettes made pilgrimages to the statue in the 1880s" | (general treatment over a section) | None. | |
52 | Tower 1975 | "In 1925, the United States Post Office Department released a five-cent stamp depicting the statue and verses from 'Concord Hymn'" | "n 1925, however, there were two additional stamps: a 1‐cent showing Washington at Cambridge and a 5‐cent showing Daniel Chester French's statue of the Minute Man at Concord and quoting part of Ralph Waldo Emerson's poem." | Nothing to do with source reviewing, but while I'm here, since you're not overburdened with images: how about the 1925 stamp to which you refer? | |
53 | Holzer 2019, p. 57 | "The United States Treasury has used the statue on both war bonds and savings bonds" | "Less controversially, the statue graced US savings bonds as well as World War II victory bonds" | None | |
55 | Ganz 2008, pp. 88–98 | "The statue also appears on the reverse of the 2000 Massachusetts state quarter next to an outline of the state" | "statue of the Minuteman, after the statue by Daniel Chester French" | Pp.88—89, not 88—98. |
@ Serial Number 54129: Kipling has been added my replies are here
-- Guerillero | Parlez Moi 00:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
The article was promoted by Ealdgyth via FACBot ( talk) 20 June 2020 [1].
I bring an article about a statue to your attention to be reviewed. In January when the Lexington–Concord Sesquicentennial half dollar had its day on the front page, I noticed that the statue on the obverse of the coin had no article. Over the past 5 months, I have dug into the literature and have moved the article from a DYK, to a GA, and now here. -- Guerillero | Parlez Moi 01:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
I see Ceoil is still ceing, so I'll pop in after he is done for more. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
That's all I've got. Ceoil is a more competent writer than I am, so I defer to him on all aspects and will wait to hear from others on comprehensiveness. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 18:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Leaning support, pending resolution of additional source from Wehwalt; please ping me if I forget to weigh in once Wehwalt is satisfied. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 20:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Source review - spotchecks not done
|pp=
Placeholder. Have read about half, and made trivial edits. Impressions are good...well written, short but to the point. Ceoil ( talk) 13:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I can hardly not review this, given your numismatic introduction.
"The statue's includes an inscription of Emerson's 1837 poem "Concord Hymn" with the famous lines "Here once the embattled farmers stood, And fired the shot heard round the the world" (3-4)." Richardson 2015
"The pedestal inscribed with the tag from Emerson's "Concord Hymn" thus memorializes these "embattled farmers" confronted and oppressed by an unwelcome presence from the start: "By the rude bridge that arched the flood,/Their flag to April's breeze unfurled,/Here once the embattled farmers stood,/And fired the shot heard round the world." Kowalski 2007
"As a finishing touch, artisans "chiseled and lettered" the pedestal's front panned with the stirring first stanza of Emerson's beloved July 4, 1837, poem, "Concord Hymn": "By the rude bridge that arched the flood,/Their flag to April's breeze unfurled,/Here once the embattled farmers stood,/And fired the shot heard round the world." Holzer 2019
I will change it to the first stanza. -- Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
A few more things on second look.
Hi Guerillero, I gather this would be your first FA if successful, so I'd like to see a spotcheck of sources for accurate use and avoidance of plagiarism or close paraphrasing. Any of the above reviewers can volunteer for this, or you can place a request at the top of WT:FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 06:42, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Reference # | Article claim | Source | Found on source page | Notes | Pass/needs attention |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
2 | Gross 2011, p. 58 | Powder Alarm, Sept 74, Minute men name | Powder Alarm, Sept 74, Minute men name | None | |
4 | Gross 2011, p. 69 | "drilling two and a half days a week" | "One shilling, eight pence for their time drilling three times a week" | Slight anomaly with the drilling time? | |
5 | Gross 2011, p. 68 | "emergency stockpiling…had fixed on Concord as the principle arsenal" | "designated Concord as the stockpile for patriot cannons, gunpowder, and ammunition" | Doesn't actually mention "Patriot cannons", but that can probably be intimated by context | |
7 | Gross 2011, p. 112 | "the spies report...Dartmouth...demanded action" | "reports from spies and instructions from…Dartmouth, Gage ordered a preemptive strike on Lexington and Concord" | Mostly OK, but can't see a mention of Lexington in a specific instruction, only "what neither side expected was the explosive combination of events", etc. | |
10 | Gross 2011, p. 117 | "Based on alerts from Prescott and reports from Lexington, 150 minutemen from Concord and Lincoln mustered on the Concord Common under the command of James Barrett." | "alerts from Prescott...reports from Lexington, 150 minutemen from Concord and Lincoln mustered...Common under the command of James Barrett." | Everything cited, but at this point I discovered that my hardcopy is slightly out of sync with the kindle edition used by the nominator! As such, this information is all contained in the source, but spread over a three-page range. Can the nom either confirm the material is all on one page or adjust it to a range? In any case, a couple of pages may always vary between editions, and that's insufficient to violate WP:V. | |
13 | Gross 2011, p. 122 f. | "cannon, musket balls, and flour...rendered unusable...gunpowder was removed before it could be seized" | "Regulars thæw 500 pounds of musket balls into the millpond, broke open sixty barrels of flour, knocked the trunions off...cannon ", and the gunpowder is on a guy's back | None | |
16 | Gross 2011, p. 126 | "minutemen who participated in the Battle of Concord went home after the British retreated from the bridge" | "the British...panicked and ran...the militiamen dispersed" | None | |
22a | Holzer 2019, p. 41 | "To the dislike of Emerson, the obelisk stands on the bank of the river where the British stood during battle" | "Ralph Waldo Emerson, often complained, the hallowed site had been marked only by an obelisk situated 'on the ground on which the enemy stood'" | I've got the Kindle edition of this too, but with no page numbers. This is the first page of Ch.2, so should easily be verified. Incidentally, if you have a way of creating page numbers for kindle, etc., editions, I'd love to hear it! | |
22a | Holzer 2019, p. 41 | "Unlike the earlier monument, it was to be placed on the bank where the Massachusetts militia stood" | "to erect a proper statue 'on the identical ground occupied by our minutemen and militia,'...and employed Daniel French to prepare a statue to be erected on the specified spot" | None | |
24a | Maas 2015 | "The statue was French's first full-size work; previously French had produced a bust of his father and one additional statue" | "'the guy had never done a [full-length] statue'...His previous work had included a bust of his father, Judge Henry Flagg French, and nature-inspired sculpture" | None | |
26 | Holzer 2019, p. 44 | "French researched The Minute Man by studying powder horns and buttons from the era" | "Keen on accuracy, twenty-one-year-old French purchased a genuine antique musket and borrowed an authentic eighteenth-century powder horn, copying both props faithfully"/"Neighbor Jacob Green lent...coat adorned with coin-size pewter buttons" | None | |
27 | Richman 1972, pp. 99–100 | "In 1873, his second clay model of the statue was accepted by the statue committee" | See note. | My reading is that this refers to the first model? And by the time the cttee saw it, hasn't it been cast in plaster? There is a second, lifesize, covered on p.101 and following; apologies if I've missed something. | |
29 | Richman 1972, p. 101 | "The pose of The Minute Man was made more natural in the enlargement process by working with models. By September 1874, the statue was completed and a plaster version of the clay statue was sent to Ames Manufacturing Works in Chicopee" | "Judd stood for me...the full-sized plaster was completed and it was then transferred from Boston to the Ames Foundry in Chicopee | None | |
32 | Eaton 2019 | "The statue was unveiled on April 19, 1875 during the centennial celebration of the battle of Battle of Concord, in a ceremony attended by Ulysses S. Grant and Ralph Waldo Emerson" | "The Minute Man monument...dedicated on April 19, 1875, the 100th anniversary...speeches by Emerson and other dignitaries. Sitting in the audience was President Ulysses S. Grant." | Can't see what n.33 brings to the table? (I can't access it, but Eaton seems to cover the essentials.) | |
35 | Kowalski 2007 | "The reworked statue cleaned up some imperfections in the face of the original statue and incorporated elements of Beaux-Arts. French made the movement of the new statue more fluid and natural" | "French endowed the smaller version with much smoother, more assured movement" | The reference to beaux-arts (note lower-case and italicised) is on p.49. Fluid and natural is fine, there's nothing specifically stating that there had been "imperfections in the face of the original statue" that needed cleaning. If it's on another page, could this be checked, otherwise reworded. | |
37b | Richman 1972, p. 43 | "A powder horn, mistakenly, sits on the man's back instead of on his hip where it can be used" | Richman 1972's page range is 96-115. | ||
38a | Bergeron 2013 | "His face is alert while his eyes are transfixed on the battle that he is ready to march into" | "His hat tilted at a jaunty angle, the Minute Man holds his rifle in one hand and plough in the other, gazing toward the coming battle at 'the rude bridge' in Concord with a farmer-turned-warrior’s heroic resolution" | Nothing about his alert physog though :) and is "gaze" really synonymous with "transfixed", I wonder? You could quote the whole "farmer-turned-warrior" thing for much the same effect. FWIW, Richman 1972 p.102 refers to teh minute man as "full of determination and fire", if you want to use that. | |
40 | Howard 1906, pp. 549–550 | "Eighteenth-century and nineteenth-century art critics, such as Lorado Taft and H. C. Howard, have suggested that the pose was directly copied from the Roman sculpture. Howard in particular trivializes the sculpture as "little more than an Americanized rendition of the Apollo Belvedere" | "As a matter of fact, the young farmer is little more than an Americanized rendition of the Apollo Belvedere" | The reference to 18th/19th-C. critics, and Raft, in particular, needs referencing. Taft is mentioned by Howard 5/6 pages later, but that's in connection with another piece. (You could use Richman 1972 p.99, who quotes Taft "with the exception of the left arm, the pose is almost identical"). Neither of them were 18th century. | |
42 | Holzer 2019, p. 45 | "Beneath the pedestal is a copper time capsule from 1875 that contains items from past celebrations of the battle, maps, and photographs of both the sculpture and sculptor" | "Installed over a time capsule—a copper box stuffed with maps and relics from previous battle commemorations, along with photographs of the statue and its sculptor" | None | |
44b | Minute Man National Historical Park | "In 1975, a second time capsule was placed beneath the pedestal that included Girl Scouts USA pins, the United States Bicentennial's flag, and a cassette tape" | " Contents of this second time capsule are: microfilm containing images of letters, photographs and scrapbooks made by the Girl Scouts; a cassette tape with “The Sounds of Concord”; an American flag; a Bicentennial flag; military patches; Girl Scout pins; and money" | You could've added more items, by the way: a plain list is not an original work! | |
47 | Seaton-Schmidt 1922, p. 3 | "Anna Seaton-Schmidt referred to it as "the most inspiring of our solder monuments" in her 1922 biography of French in The American Magazine of Art" | "one of the most inspiring of our solder monuments". | It should be clarified either that she was writing in the 20s, or that—even then—she said it was "one of". There are, after all, other pretty inspiring soldier monuments, so as a statement it's not likely to go unchallenged :) | |
49 | Richardson 2015, pp. 35–39 | "Alcott and other suffragettes appropriated the statue as a symbol of their struggle for voting rights, and the suffragettes made pilgrimages to the statue in the 1880s" | (general treatment over a section) | None. | |
52 | Tower 1975 | "In 1925, the United States Post Office Department released a five-cent stamp depicting the statue and verses from 'Concord Hymn'" | "n 1925, however, there were two additional stamps: a 1‐cent showing Washington at Cambridge and a 5‐cent showing Daniel Chester French's statue of the Minute Man at Concord and quoting part of Ralph Waldo Emerson's poem." | Nothing to do with source reviewing, but while I'm here, since you're not overburdened with images: how about the 1925 stamp to which you refer? | |
53 | Holzer 2019, p. 57 | "The United States Treasury has used the statue on both war bonds and savings bonds" | "Less controversially, the statue graced US savings bonds as well as World War II victory bonds" | None | |
55 | Ganz 2008, pp. 88–98 | "The statue also appears on the reverse of the 2000 Massachusetts state quarter next to an outline of the state" | "statue of the Minuteman, after the statue by Daniel Chester French" | Pp.88—89, not 88—98. |
@ Serial Number 54129: Kipling has been added my replies are here
-- Guerillero | Parlez Moi 00:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)