- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was archived by FrB.TG via FACBot ( talk) 2 February 2024 [1].
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
- Nominator(s): K. Peake 21:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
This article is about My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010), the fifth studio album by American rapper Kanye West. It was recorded during West's exile in Hawaii after a period of controversy through 2009, resulting in a maximalist style with elements of his previous work. The album was met with widespread critical acclaim and also received much retrospective praise, including being ranked as one of the greatest albums of all time. West promoted the album with four singles that were top 40 hits in the United States and the film Runaway, while it reached the top 10 in countries like the US and Canada. The article became a GA back in 2011, more than five years before I joined this site, though I have monitored it over the years and put in extensive work back in 2022 for a FAC. I worked on it more again now, checking everything is still as it was and making other revisions because my belief is fully in this album deserving FA status as West's magnum ops after my dedication to it! K. Peake 21:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a reason
ISBN
9781623565428, a book about the album, is not cited in the article?
Heartfox (
talk) 22:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is a valid point to raise although I was not actually aware of this book; do you know of any places I can access this free of charge? K. Peake 10:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- SchroCat said everything I was going to originally, so I would also have to unfortunately oppose and recommend withdrawal. A book specifically about one album is a golden source, and I hope that and other scholarly sources can be incorporated in the article. The book is on Inernet Archive; you can get around the "borrow unavailable" by manually typing the page number after https://archive.org/details/mybeautifuldarkt0000grav/page/ Heartfox ( talk) 13:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Kyle, as well as the trick of adding a page number, the text search facility is a useful way of getting to any points in the book you want to research, as it allows access to all pages using the search searched for - there is no limit as to how many such searches you do either. Using both these methods will allow full access to the work. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 14:28, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It's not something I like doing, but FAs are supposed to be "a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature", and this isn't. The absence of Graves's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is an egregious oversight. There is also significant commentary in The Cultural Impact of Kanye West and Monstrosity, Performance, and Race in Contemporary Culture, neither of which are used. All three of these are openly available on Internet Archive, as are several others which may be of use. Can I suggest you withdraw this nomination, go through the sources on IA thoroughly, search Google Books and use the facilities of the Wikipedia Library to extract as much information as possible before returning? On a positive note, a very quick skim through the article shows it is nicely written and some of the other requirements (formatting, etc) all seem up to scratch, so hopefully this will not be too onerous a task. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 12:37, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Heartfox and SchroCat Thank you for the comments and raising this book to light, I did not honestly have awareness of it before so this is very handy of you to bring up. I would use the trick tips mentioned to look through the book in relevant areas, needs to be utilized if there is heavy expansion possible from it and the nomination should be withdrawn too. The article is in overall solid shape it is great to see acknowledgement of that, writing the prose was quite a key part to be honest as well! -- K. Peake 18:17, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{ featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. FrB.TG ( talk) 17:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was archived by FrB.TG via FACBot ( talk) 2 February 2024 [1].
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
- Nominator(s): K. Peake 21:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
This article is about My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010), the fifth studio album by American rapper Kanye West. It was recorded during West's exile in Hawaii after a period of controversy through 2009, resulting in a maximalist style with elements of his previous work. The album was met with widespread critical acclaim and also received much retrospective praise, including being ranked as one of the greatest albums of all time. West promoted the album with four singles that were top 40 hits in the United States and the film Runaway, while it reached the top 10 in countries like the US and Canada. The article became a GA back in 2011, more than five years before I joined this site, though I have monitored it over the years and put in extensive work back in 2022 for a FAC. I worked on it more again now, checking everything is still as it was and making other revisions because my belief is fully in this album deserving FA status as West's magnum ops after my dedication to it! K. Peake 21:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a reason
ISBN
9781623565428, a book about the album, is not cited in the article?
Heartfox (
talk) 22:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is a valid point to raise although I was not actually aware of this book; do you know of any places I can access this free of charge? K. Peake 10:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- SchroCat said everything I was going to originally, so I would also have to unfortunately oppose and recommend withdrawal. A book specifically about one album is a golden source, and I hope that and other scholarly sources can be incorporated in the article. The book is on Inernet Archive; you can get around the "borrow unavailable" by manually typing the page number after https://archive.org/details/mybeautifuldarkt0000grav/page/ Heartfox ( talk) 13:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Kyle, as well as the trick of adding a page number, the text search facility is a useful way of getting to any points in the book you want to research, as it allows access to all pages using the search searched for - there is no limit as to how many such searches you do either. Using both these methods will allow full access to the work. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 14:28, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It's not something I like doing, but FAs are supposed to be "a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature", and this isn't. The absence of Graves's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is an egregious oversight. There is also significant commentary in The Cultural Impact of Kanye West and Monstrosity, Performance, and Race in Contemporary Culture, neither of which are used. All three of these are openly available on Internet Archive, as are several others which may be of use. Can I suggest you withdraw this nomination, go through the sources on IA thoroughly, search Google Books and use the facilities of the Wikipedia Library to extract as much information as possible before returning? On a positive note, a very quick skim through the article shows it is nicely written and some of the other requirements (formatting, etc) all seem up to scratch, so hopefully this will not be too onerous a task. Cheers - SchroCat ( talk) 12:37, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Heartfox and SchroCat Thank you for the comments and raising this book to light, I did not honestly have awareness of it before so this is very handy of you to bring up. I would use the trick tips mentioned to look through the book in relevant areas, needs to be utilized if there is heavy expansion possible from it and the nomination should be withdrawn too. The article is in overall solid shape it is great to see acknowledgement of that, writing the prose was quite a key part to be honest as well! -- K. Peake 18:17, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{ featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. FrB.TG ( talk) 17:19, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.