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The page was correctly deleted in 2018 for failing WP:NHOCKEY; the page now passes WP:NHOCKEY #1 "Played one or more games in the National Hockey League, Czech Extraliga, Liiga, Kontinental Hockey League, or the Swedish Hockey League, a top-level Canadian amateur league prior to 1909, the Soviet Championship League, the Czechoslovak First Ice Hockey League or the World Hockey Association" per [1] Joeykai ( talk) 00:57, 2 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• Re-creation is allowed under these circumstances. DRV is not necessary. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 01:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC) reply
• For the moment, NSPORTS still enjoys consensus. There's a plot afoot, led by King of Hearts, to confirm that at RFC; the problem being that NSPORTS is so inclusionist that it leads to poor quality outcomes, such as theoretically biographical articles that in practice consist of tables of sports results. There is serious concern that such a very large proportion of our biographies concern sportspeople.— S Marshall  T/ C 08:03, 3 September 2020 (UTC) reply
• Comment - The instructions for DRV encourage the filing of DRVs in cases where there is new information. Should the instructions be changed? Robert McClenon ( talk) 06:07, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply
• Comment - Maybe we need more inclusionist special notability guides. If I review a draft on a sportsperson, or a politician, or a military officer, I know what I am looking for. Maybe we need more nineteenth-century businesswomen. Robert McClenon ( talk) 06:07, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• Or, maybe we need to delete all the SNGs and disallow articles that don't have two separate reliable sources, both of which are independent of the subject and each other.— S Marshall  T/ C 18:06, 4 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• I respectfully disagree. We can discuss this in some other forum. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:24, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• Recreate Newyorkbrad makes sense. It will not be a G4 candidate if the article is changed and resubmitted. Lightburst ( talk) 01:09, 5 September 2020 (UTC) reply