Nazo Dharejo – The nominator's reasonable and appropriate request to overturn the outcome of an old AfD on the basis of new sources has been unanimously approved.—
S MarshallT/
C 23:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The following is an archived debate of the
deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Nazo Dharejo's story has been made into an acclaimed film My Pure Land and has received lots of media coverage. Last month
JogiAsad requested the deleting admin
Courcelles to restore the article, and
HouseOfChange concurred and said they would improve the article after its restoration (see
archived discussion), but Courcelles has been inactive recently and has not responded.
Zanhe (
talk) 20:11, 16 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The general rule is that if an article has been deleted via AfD, but the discussion was long ago and the reasons for deletion are no longer valid, then anybody can recreate the article without needed to go through DRV. Since the AfD was 3-1/2 years ago, and there's ostensibly new sources due to new events, I don't see any reason that shouldn't apply here. I looked at the deleted article. It's not very well written. I'd have no objection if somebody wanted to restore it, but I honestly think you'd do better to start from scratch. The original references were[1][2][3][4][5] --
RoySmith(talk) 21:15, 16 January 2019 (UTC)reply
What Roy said, except I would've been much harsher than "not very well written". —
Cryptic 21:31, 16 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the suggestion and list of references. I also gathered a few while writing about the film
My Pure Land. I have started a draft of
Nazo Dharejo in my sandbox, once it is past a stub I will post it to mainspace so others can work on it.
HouseOfChange (
talk) 23:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Bad as the original article may have been, it would be useful to be able to see it. I am happy to host it temporarily in my sandbox if you want to put it there. I have not been able to access two of the references listed above.
HouseOfChange (
talk) 20:30, 17 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much, RoySmith. I look forward to providing us with something more encyclopedic on the topic.
HouseOfChange (
talk) 00:57, 18 January 2019 (UTC)reply
These two should probably be histmerged. I've never been quite sure I understand all the technicalities there, so I'll leave that to somebody else to handle. --
RoySmith(talk) 14:39, 18 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The technicalities are easier than they're made out to be. 1) Delete the article at the final title. 2) Move the other article to the same title. 3) Restore the old article. 2.5) (optional) Delete the newly-moved article before restoring the first article, so you don't have to make all its edits visible.
It's not necessary here.
Inspecting the diff of changes made between your userfication of the afd-deleted article and the new article's final version, I don't see anything copyrightable lifted from the former to the latter. —
Cryptic 14:49, 18 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The above is an archive of the
deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
Nazo Dharejo – The nominator's reasonable and appropriate request to overturn the outcome of an old AfD on the basis of new sources has been unanimously approved.—
S MarshallT/
C 23:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The following is an archived debate of the
deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Nazo Dharejo's story has been made into an acclaimed film My Pure Land and has received lots of media coverage. Last month
JogiAsad requested the deleting admin
Courcelles to restore the article, and
HouseOfChange concurred and said they would improve the article after its restoration (see
archived discussion), but Courcelles has been inactive recently and has not responded.
Zanhe (
talk) 20:11, 16 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The general rule is that if an article has been deleted via AfD, but the discussion was long ago and the reasons for deletion are no longer valid, then anybody can recreate the article without needed to go through DRV. Since the AfD was 3-1/2 years ago, and there's ostensibly new sources due to new events, I don't see any reason that shouldn't apply here. I looked at the deleted article. It's not very well written. I'd have no objection if somebody wanted to restore it, but I honestly think you'd do better to start from scratch. The original references were[1][2][3][4][5] --
RoySmith(talk) 21:15, 16 January 2019 (UTC)reply
What Roy said, except I would've been much harsher than "not very well written". —
Cryptic 21:31, 16 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Thanks for the suggestion and list of references. I also gathered a few while writing about the film
My Pure Land. I have started a draft of
Nazo Dharejo in my sandbox, once it is past a stub I will post it to mainspace so others can work on it.
HouseOfChange (
talk) 23:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Bad as the original article may have been, it would be useful to be able to see it. I am happy to host it temporarily in my sandbox if you want to put it there. I have not been able to access two of the references listed above.
HouseOfChange (
talk) 20:30, 17 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much, RoySmith. I look forward to providing us with something more encyclopedic on the topic.
HouseOfChange (
talk) 00:57, 18 January 2019 (UTC)reply
These two should probably be histmerged. I've never been quite sure I understand all the technicalities there, so I'll leave that to somebody else to handle. --
RoySmith(talk) 14:39, 18 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The technicalities are easier than they're made out to be. 1) Delete the article at the final title. 2) Move the other article to the same title. 3) Restore the old article. 2.5) (optional) Delete the newly-moved article before restoring the first article, so you don't have to make all its edits visible.
It's not necessary here.
Inspecting the diff of changes made between your userfication of the afd-deleted article and the new article's final version, I don't see anything copyrightable lifted from the former to the latter. —
Cryptic 14:49, 18 January 2019 (UTC)reply
The above is an archive of the
deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.