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For review: User:Pkeets/Kinuyo Yamashita

I'm writing bios on women composers and I have primary sources that I could add. Rather than re-invent the wheel, I'd like to use what was there already. Primary sources are not that difficult to find for her. Thanks. Pkeets ( talk) 17:20, 31 December 2010 (UTC) reply

• Overturn delete. The AfD looks like it should have been a "no consensus" close anyway. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC) reply

I've posted a new revision at User:Pkeets/Kinuyo Yamashita for review. Pkeets ( talk) 18:07, 31 December 2010 (UTC) reply

For the book references (#1, 3-4), you need to include page numbers so people can easily look them up. ··· 日本穣 ^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:46, 1 January 2011 (UTC) reply

• Overturn. I remember this as a very controversial deletion and think that the subject is notable. Some biographical information is covered in the 1UP.com article by Jeremy Parish, there are interviews with her ( [1], [2] – the latter from a blog) and she is also mentioned (sometimes in passing) in reliable sources ( [3], [4], [5]). Prime Blue ( talk) 03:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC) reply
• Overturn as she seems notable. The list of her credits on jawiki is pretty long. ··· 日本穣 ^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 17:46, 1 January 2011 (UTC) reply
• If the new article is a substantial improvement over the one that was the subject of the AfD discussion, just move it into the mainspace. There is no need to review the previous deletion decision. However, if it's the article in your userspace that you intend to move, the external links section should be fixed first. Would you consider withdrawing this deletion review to follow this suggestion instead? -- Bsherr ( talk) 19:51, 2 January 2011 (UTC) reply

I was advised at the help desk to pursue a deletion review before attempting to post a new article of any kind on this person. I'm proposing to copy the main part of the revision from my user space into a reinstated article. I've copied the article from Google cache to revise it, and the "external links" were inactive there. If the old article is reinstated, presumably the links will be live. Reinstatment also has the advantage of restoring the history. Since I've only revised the article, the history should reflect this. Pkeets ( talk) 20:15, 4 January 2011 (UTC) reply

It would be better for WP:A if the old article were properly userfied to you. Could an administrator please userfy the deleted artile to Pkeets? Pkeets, please then make the edits to the userfied article, and when you're ready, move it back into the mainspace. It may be nominated for deletion again (discussion), but, provided the article is a significant improvement over the previous article, it cannot be speedily deleted. -- Bsherr ( talk) 19:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC) reply

I asked about the user option before posting the article for review here, but was told that I couldn't have a copy of the article because I hadn't contributed to it before it was deleted. I've got a proposed revision posted. What's wrong with having the deletion review now? Pkeets ( talk) 00:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC) reply

The deletion review is unnecessary per WP:RECREATE; you're allowed to recreate the article. If you used content from the deleted article for the article in your user space, that content needs to be properly attributed to its actual authors, per WP:CWW and WP:A. So, the deleted article needs to be restored to you, you need to make your revisions in that version, and then that version can be moved back into the article space. (If you recreated the article from scratch, and didn't copy any previous content, this doesn't apply; let me know if this is so.) -- Bsherr ( talk) 05:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Again, the version in my user space is a REVISED version of the previous article with added primary sources. I have NOT recreated it from scratch. It would be plagiarism to move this revision into article space and represent it as my work, so I need to use the actual article with the edit history attached. I have no way to attribute the work to the original authors without the edit history. I have posted the request here for a deletion review so I can have access to the article (previously denied), and so it will not be immediately nominated again for deletion when I move it into article space. The consensus above seems to be reversal of the deletion. Do you have some substantive objection to that, or are you just wondering how the process should be handled? Pkeets ( talk) 06:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Right, so, could an administrator please userfy the deleted article to Pkeets, so Pkeets can make revisions and move it into the main space again? -- Bsherr ( talk) 07:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC) reply

 Done. JohnCD ( talk) 15:09, 6 January 2011 (UTC) reply