Category:Police brutality in Brazil by ex-policemen
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Nominator's rationale:Overcategorization for a non-defining intersection of traits. We do not otherwise have any scheme of categorizing police brutality by ex-policemen separately from police brutality by current policemen.
Bearcat (
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Oppose -- This is not a right solution. The perpetrator was an ex-policeman. The problem is that the single article is inadequately categorised. Recategorize article to empty this category, then delete.
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Comment This category has been emptied. LizRead!Talk! 03:15, 22 May 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Murdered Brazilian politicians
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Category:Mega-Sena
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Nominator's rationale: Single-entry
WP:SMALLCAT for a
non-defining characteristic. The article filed here is about an event that tangentially happened to involve a former winner of a Brazilian lottery, but the event and the lottery are otherwise unrelated to each other, so the event certainly isn't defined by the participant's incidental status as a past lottery winner. And
Category:Caixa Econômica Federal Lotteries will simply be left empty otherwise, since it too was created solely to contain this.
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Category:Rio Bonito
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Nominator's rationale: Single-entry
WP:SMALLCATs for small municipalities in Brazil. As always, every town that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment one thing with an article has happened there -- there would have to be at least five or six articles to file in each of these before a category for any of them was warranted. For added bonus, the categories were created by an editor who's been on a royal rampage of bad
overcategorization with a few dozen bad, misnamed, misconceived and/or duplicate categories created just in the past few days alone.
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Delete for Now with no objection to recreation if any reach 5+ articles. -
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Category:Canadian model stubs
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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category. Unlike the Australian model stubs category below, this one was approved by WikiProject stub sorting back in 2008 -- however, while it purportedly had 60 articles at that time, it now only has 19, and neither
Category:Model stubs nor
Category:Canadian people stubs offer up anybody else who could be refiled here to repopulate it. So it was a good faith creation at the time, but it's no longer needed for the small number of people who are still here 15 years later.
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Category:Australian model stubs
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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category with no evidence of approval by
Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting. As always, stub categories are not free for just any random user to create on a whim: there have to be 60 articles to populate a stub category before it becomes warranted, below that a stub template should just sort pages into parent categories instead of being paired with their own dedicated categories, and because there's a minimum size requirement stub categories have to be approved for creation. But there are only 16 articles here even after a scan through
Category:Model stubs for prodigal Australians, and there's no evidence that this was ever approved by the stub sorting project.
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Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to Portuguese Mozambique
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The result of the discussion was:double merge per Oculi. –
FayenaticLondon 20:34, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose The current form is clearest. It does not mix a nationality with a country/territory. There is a clear "From state/To State/territory" form which is incapable of misinterpretation.
Laurel Lodged (
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Upmerge per Oculi. We don't need that extra layer. –
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Category:Treasure hunt television series
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
✗plicit 00:23, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Almost everything in
Category:Works by topic is in the exact same "works about X" format. This is not some kind of random invention on my part. And it goes to follow the child categories should be in the same format.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 20:54, 24 April 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Armbrust: I have demonstrated there is a clear convention for the format, I am curious if you will now rescind your opposition.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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Support per nom. (It wasn't a speedy IMO.)
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Category:Maccabi Ironi Tamra F.C. players
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Oppose this also. This might be an issue with all Israeli teams. The category name here is correct based on
this. Not sure why the article titles are incomplete.
Gonnym (
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Don't think so for this one. Their own logo as per
this just says "Maccabi Tamra". Their
socials do not say "Ironi" in it either, just "Maccabi Tamra". The name of the article should be commonly used one, not the formal full legal name (unless some sort of disambiguation is needed, which it is not in this case).
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RevelationDirect (
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Thank you for that, I have corrected it.
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GiantSnowman 15:26, 7 May 2023 (UTC)reply
The club calls itself
Maccabi Tamra F.C. on their actual logo and on their socials, in Hebrew and in Arabic. No "Ironi". Hebrew Wiki
does not say Ironi. News searches are not of much use. Soccerway says "Maccabi Ironi Tamra". Worldfootball.net says "Maccabi Tamra".
@
Gonnym moved the parent article to Maccabi Ironi Tamra after my nomination.
I think the question of the proper name for the article should be discussed on the talk page for that article, at least, before any definitive category moves are made.
RM Nomination I opened a formal requested move of the main article. Your input (pro/con/other) is welcome
right here. -
RevelationDirect (
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Defer To whatever the outcome of that RM is, whether I agree with it or not. -
RevelationDirect (
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Yes, I am withdrawing this nomination.
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Category:Low Countries newspaper publishers, pre-1795 (people)
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Delete -- At this period we should not be combining
United Provinces with
Austrian Netherlands. We have one article for each country. Possibly upmerge to a European parent (but there is not one). Perhaps better is to ignore the hiatus between French conquest in 1795 and put them in the Dutch or Belgian category as appropriate, despite anachronism.
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Category:Canada's Got Talent judges
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Delete The judges were famous celebrities with a long list of credits before joining this show. -
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Category:Earth mysteries
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Nominator's rationale: This is meant for "
Earth mysteries", which are locations connected to certain spiritual beliefs, but the term is so seldom used and poorly defined that it's not really a viable category. Before I cleaned it up, this was used as sort of a catch-all for unexplained phenomena, but there's no good reason to maintain a separate category from
Category:Unexplained phenomena. –
dlthewave☎ 12:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete, not a defining characteristic for the articles in this category.
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Nominator's rationale: No evidence that Shprefeja club is notable. No reliable information can be easily found, and it has no article.
Geregen2 (
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Delete per
WP:SMALLCAT. As the club doesn't look notable, it's unlikely that there will be many more notable players to add to this category, as well as whether playing for an obscure club is
WP:NOTDEFINING anyway.
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Floods by country
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT. Do not need to merge to continent level except where listed above since articles are in yearly or decade continent categories. Some merging will need to be manual since the articles are also categorized under earthquakes or landslides. –
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Category:Police brutality in Brazil by ex-policemen
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Nominator's rationale:Overcategorization for a non-defining intersection of traits. We do not otherwise have any scheme of categorizing police brutality by ex-policemen separately from police brutality by current policemen.
Bearcat (
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Oppose -- This is not a right solution. The perpetrator was an ex-policeman. The problem is that the single article is inadequately categorised. Recategorize article to empty this category, then delete.
Peterkingiron (
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Comment This category has been emptied. LizRead!Talk! 03:15, 22 May 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Murdered Brazilian politicians
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Category:Mega-Sena
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Nominator's rationale: Single-entry
WP:SMALLCAT for a
non-defining characteristic. The article filed here is about an event that tangentially happened to involve a former winner of a Brazilian lottery, but the event and the lottery are otherwise unrelated to each other, so the event certainly isn't defined by the participant's incidental status as a past lottery winner. And
Category:Caixa Econômica Federal Lotteries will simply be left empty otherwise, since it too was created solely to contain this.
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Category:Rio Bonito
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Nominator's rationale: Single-entry
WP:SMALLCATs for small municipalities in Brazil. As always, every town that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment one thing with an article has happened there -- there would have to be at least five or six articles to file in each of these before a category for any of them was warranted. For added bonus, the categories were created by an editor who's been on a royal rampage of bad
overcategorization with a few dozen bad, misnamed, misconceived and/or duplicate categories created just in the past few days alone.
Bearcat (
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Delete for Now with no objection to recreation if any reach 5+ articles. -
RevelationDirect (
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Category:Canadian model stubs
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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category. Unlike the Australian model stubs category below, this one was approved by WikiProject stub sorting back in 2008 -- however, while it purportedly had 60 articles at that time, it now only has 19, and neither
Category:Model stubs nor
Category:Canadian people stubs offer up anybody else who could be refiled here to repopulate it. So it was a good faith creation at the time, but it's no longer needed for the small number of people who are still here 15 years later.
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Category:Australian model stubs
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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category with no evidence of approval by
Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting. As always, stub categories are not free for just any random user to create on a whim: there have to be 60 articles to populate a stub category before it becomes warranted, below that a stub template should just sort pages into parent categories instead of being paired with their own dedicated categories, and because there's a minimum size requirement stub categories have to be approved for creation. But there are only 16 articles here even after a scan through
Category:Model stubs for prodigal Australians, and there's no evidence that this was ever approved by the stub sorting project.
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Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to Portuguese Mozambique
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The result of the discussion was:double merge per Oculi. –
FayenaticLondon 20:34, 13 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose The current form is clearest. It does not mix a nationality with a country/territory. There is a clear "From state/To State/territory" form which is incapable of misinterpretation.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 17:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Upmerge per Oculi. We don't need that extra layer. –
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Category:Treasure hunt television series
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
✗plicit 00:23, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Almost everything in
Category:Works by topic is in the exact same "works about X" format. This is not some kind of random invention on my part. And it goes to follow the child categories should be in the same format.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 20:54, 24 April 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Armbrust: I have demonstrated there is a clear convention for the format, I am curious if you will now rescind your opposition.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 14:41, 28 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. (It wasn't a speedy IMO.)
Oculi (
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Category:Maccabi Ironi Tamra F.C. players
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Oppose this also. This might be an issue with all Israeli teams. The category name here is correct based on
this. Not sure why the article titles are incomplete.
Gonnym (
talk) 12:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Don't think so for this one. Their own logo as per
this just says "Maccabi Tamra". Their
socials do not say "Ironi" in it either, just "Maccabi Tamra". The name of the article should be commonly used one, not the formal full legal name (unless some sort of disambiguation is needed, which it is not in this case).
Question@
Marcocapelle: Did you mean to remove "players" from the proposed rename? (Looks like the word was included in the speedy nom.) -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:51, 7 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Thank you for that, I have corrected it.
Marcocapelle (
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GiantSnowman 15:26, 7 May 2023 (UTC)reply
The club calls itself
Maccabi Tamra F.C. on their actual logo and on their socials, in Hebrew and in Arabic. No "Ironi". Hebrew Wiki
does not say Ironi. News searches are not of much use. Soccerway says "Maccabi Ironi Tamra". Worldfootball.net says "Maccabi Tamra".
@
Gonnym moved the parent article to Maccabi Ironi Tamra after my nomination.
I think the question of the proper name for the article should be discussed on the talk page for that article, at least, before any definitive category moves are made.
RM Nomination I opened a formal requested move of the main article. Your input (pro/con/other) is welcome
right here. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:35, 8 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Defer To whatever the outcome of that RM is, whether I agree with it or not. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:35, 8 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Yes, I am withdrawing this nomination.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Low Countries newspaper publishers, pre-1795 (people)
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Delete -- At this period we should not be combining
United Provinces with
Austrian Netherlands. We have one article for each country. Possibly upmerge to a European parent (but there is not one). Perhaps better is to ignore the hiatus between French conquest in 1795 and put them in the Dutch or Belgian category as appropriate, despite anachronism.
Peterkingiron (
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Category:Canada's Got Talent judges
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Delete The judges were famous celebrities with a long list of credits before joining this show. -
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Category:Earth mysteries
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Nominator's rationale: This is meant for "
Earth mysteries", which are locations connected to certain spiritual beliefs, but the term is so seldom used and poorly defined that it's not really a viable category. Before I cleaned it up, this was used as sort of a catch-all for unexplained phenomena, but there's no good reason to maintain a separate category from
Category:Unexplained phenomena. –
dlthewave☎ 12:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete, not a defining characteristic for the articles in this category.
Marcocapelle (
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Nominator's rationale: No evidence that Shprefeja club is notable. No reliable information can be easily found, and it has no article.
Geregen2 (
talk) 02:40, 5 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:SMALLCAT. As the club doesn't look notable, it's unlikely that there will be many more notable players to add to this category, as well as whether playing for an obscure club is
WP:NOTDEFINING anyway.
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Floods by country
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT. Do not need to merge to continent level except where listed above since articles are in yearly or decade continent categories. Some merging will need to be manual since the articles are also categorized under earthquakes or landslides. –
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