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The result of the discussion was:rename.
✗plicit 01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: This is a set category for bodyweight exercises so it should be plural per WP:Categorization rules (
t ·
c) buidhe 21:35, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
✗plicit 01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Support as for recent nom concerning related categories.
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
✗plicit 01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
No, because the category is mostly populated by userboxes that don't mention that WikiProject.
* Pppery *it has begun... 00:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Not defining. These are pretty much all characters from other games who just appear in this crossover.
★Trekker (
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Comment -- This is a well-populated category. Pure deletion should not be the outcome, but if nom is right, it might be merged.
Peterkingiron (
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If it is not defining, pure deletion should be the outcome. I do not see any proper merge target.
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The result of the discussion was:delete. –
FayenaticLondon 08:47, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Not defining, all these characters (except
David King) are guest characters in the game.
★Trekker (
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Comment I would argue that inclusion in DBD is a defining characteristic for more than a few of the characters- mentions to their inclusion are present in the lede sections of
Heather Mason,
Pyramid Head,
Nemesis (Resident Evil) and
Nancy Wheeler to name a few. I don't see how this situation is different from
Category:Super Smash Bros. fighters, considering how both categories lack original characters, but that category has been put up for deletion before as well.
HadesTTW (he/him •
talk) 21:09, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Absolutely not, and the Super Smash Bros. fighters category shouldn't exist either, it survived last CFD by pure luck.
★Trekker (
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If you insist, then I suggest that you nominate that category for deletion as well. I'm in the camp that both should be kept, but it is unjust for both to be on the Wiki if there is no distinguishing reason why one crossover franchise can stay and one has to be removed.
HadesTTW (he/him •
talk) 04:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)reply
I was the one who nominated it a couple of months ago, it would be bad form for me to renominate it so soon again.
★Trekker (
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Delete SMALLCAT with main article and 1 entry.
Peterkingiron (
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There were over 20 entries but they were all removed after I restored the category.
HadesTTW (he/him •
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Yeah I removed it from all the articles where the topic is non-defining and violated performance categorization guidlines.
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The result of the discussion was:wrong venue. A template is being nominated, not a category.
(non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (
投稿) 02:19, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Redirect per nom. @
Minorax: Is there some reason you brought this to CfD instead of just boldly redirecting it?
* Pppery *it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Pppery: I was unsure about how stub templates are sorted and it seems that the creator wanted to do something else. --
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Category:Téléfilm Canada films
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
✗plicit 01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Telefilm is not a film studio, but merely a funding agency that provides grants to the studios, primarily for films by new and emerging filmmakers -- so it frequently gets "with the participation of" credits on Canadian films, but is never the producing studio because that's not what it does. This category, further, was created only a few months ago by a now-blocked editor with no established record of editing on Canadian film and a habit of obsessive overcategorization, but was never deemed as desirable or warranted by those who actually edit on Canadian film. As well, they randomly selected just 20 films for the category, out of the hundreds upon thousands of films that received Telefilm grants -- but there's no value in making any attempt to hunt down the stragglers, because (a) there's no comprehensive list that can be consulted (even Telefilm itself doesn't self-publish a complete directory of every film it's ever given a grant to since 1967), and (b) films are
defined by the studios that made them, not by the agencies or companies that happened to give money to the studios. Also, it's unclear why the creator used the French form of the name instead of the English one — this is the English Wikipedia, so even if there were grounds to keep this it would have to be renamed to "Telefilm Canada films" anyway.
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Category:Kingdom of Ireland
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The result of the discussion was:merge.
✗plicit 01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom. It is an odd situation that the two categories co-exist even without being directly interlinked.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge per nom. They are essentially the same thing.
Peterkingiron (
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Merge and redirect, to discourage re-creation, as there are three sub-cats with "Kingdom of Ireland" in their names. –
FayenaticLondon 09:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)reply
this should a separate discussion. First the merging, then we can discuss renaming. --
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Nominator's rationale: All of these categories have "disambiguation pages" in their titles, but every one of the pages contained in these categories uses a "set index article" template, namely {{
Storm index}}, not a disambiguation template. The categories should be renamed to accurately reflect what they contain. --
R'n'B (
call me Russ) 20:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)reply
That was done before my bold category renaming was reverted by another user. The bot is in the process of moving them back. --
R'n'B (
call me Russ) 01:21, 25 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment, some of the pages contain "(disambiguation)" in their name. This might suggest that they were meant to be disambiguation pages after all.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment, moreover, many other storm name pages are the redirect target of pages with "(disambiguation)" in their name. Also, most of the pages are, I believe, marked as DAB on their talk page.
Drdpw (
talk) 12:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Support renaming. Any pages with (disambiguation) should be moved (or swapped) to another title. These are not disambiguation pages and the category name is currently confusing.
Shhhnotsoloud (
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Comment many of these pages are titled "List of storms named …"; those pages with "(disambiguation)" in their title could could be moved accordingly.
Drdpw (
talk) 12:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Note & question,
Category:Tropical cyclone disambiguation pages is the parent category for those listed above. If the requested move gets the green light, the parent category ought to be renamed as well, yes?
Drdpw (
talk) 20:33, 28 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Qwerfjkltalk 12:20, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename to match the contents. Yes, the parent category should be renamed to. Yes, (disambiguation) page titles should be sorted out somehow. Yes, the entire concept of "set index articles" is a mess. None of these things influence the merits of this CfD.
* Pppery *it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Roads in Hong Kong
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The result of the discussion was:Diffuse to new sub-categories. –
FayenaticLondon 13:13, 8 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Split according to the four statutory regions of the territory.
42.200.55.111 (
talk) 08:40, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
With more than 200 articles directly in this category the proposal seems a plausible way of diffusion.
Marcocapelle (
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Support only on the condition that the existing category will be retained and kept as a parent category of the new categories and as a direct subcategory under
Category:Roads by country so as to preserve the link of the entire roads cats hierarchy.
203.145.94.160 (
talk) 03:41, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Fair point, it should be diffusing rather than splitting.
Marcocapelle (
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Diffuse -- leaving the existing cat as a container.
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
✗plicit 01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Fair enough. It can be implemented as rename as nominated, and manually moving some of the content thereafter.
Marcocapelle (
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Would be fine with me.
Daranios (
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Support per nomination.
Category:Fictional bodies of water is currently a subcategory and could easily be re-categorized through the ordinary editing process.
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✗plicit 01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per nom.
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
✗plicit 01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: This is a set category for bodyweight exercises so it should be plural per WP:Categorization rules (
t ·
c) buidhe 21:35, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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✗plicit 01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Support as for recent nom concerning related categories.
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Category:WikiProject Religious texts participants
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
✗plicit 01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
No, because the category is mostly populated by userboxes that don't mention that WikiProject.
* Pppery *it has begun... 00:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Heroes of the Storm characters
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Nominator's rationale: Not defining. These are pretty much all characters from other games who just appear in this crossover.
★Trekker (
talk) 15:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment -- This is a well-populated category. Pure deletion should not be the outcome, but if nom is right, it might be merged.
Peterkingiron (
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If it is not defining, pure deletion should be the outcome. I do not see any proper merge target.
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Category:Dead by Daylight characters
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The result of the discussion was:delete. –
FayenaticLondon 08:47, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Not defining, all these characters (except
David King) are guest characters in the game.
★Trekker (
talk) 15:37, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment I would argue that inclusion in DBD is a defining characteristic for more than a few of the characters- mentions to their inclusion are present in the lede sections of
Heather Mason,
Pyramid Head,
Nemesis (Resident Evil) and
Nancy Wheeler to name a few. I don't see how this situation is different from
Category:Super Smash Bros. fighters, considering how both categories lack original characters, but that category has been put up for deletion before as well.
HadesTTW (he/him •
talk) 21:09, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Absolutely not, and the Super Smash Bros. fighters category shouldn't exist either, it survived last CFD by pure luck.
★Trekker (
talk) 21:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
If you insist, then I suggest that you nominate that category for deletion as well. I'm in the camp that both should be kept, but it is unjust for both to be on the Wiki if there is no distinguishing reason why one crossover franchise can stay and one has to be removed.
HadesTTW (he/him •
talk) 04:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)reply
I was the one who nominated it a couple of months ago, it would be bad form for me to renominate it so soon again.
★Trekker (
talk) 11:00, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete SMALLCAT with main article and 1 entry.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 15:50, 4 September 2022 (UTC)reply
There were over 20 entries but they were all removed after I restored the category.
HadesTTW (he/him •
talk) 03:39, 5 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Yeah I removed it from all the articles where the topic is non-defining and violated performance categorization guidlines.
★Trekker (
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The result of the discussion was:wrong venue. A template is being nominated, not a category.
(non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (
投稿) 02:19, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Redirect per nom. @
Minorax: Is there some reason you brought this to CfD instead of just boldly redirecting it?
* Pppery *it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Pppery: I was unsure about how stub templates are sorted and it seems that the creator wanted to do something else. --
Minorax«¦
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Category:Téléfilm Canada films
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✗plicit 01:17, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Telefilm is not a film studio, but merely a funding agency that provides grants to the studios, primarily for films by new and emerging filmmakers -- so it frequently gets "with the participation of" credits on Canadian films, but is never the producing studio because that's not what it does. This category, further, was created only a few months ago by a now-blocked editor with no established record of editing on Canadian film and a habit of obsessive overcategorization, but was never deemed as desirable or warranted by those who actually edit on Canadian film. As well, they randomly selected just 20 films for the category, out of the hundreds upon thousands of films that received Telefilm grants -- but there's no value in making any attempt to hunt down the stragglers, because (a) there's no comprehensive list that can be consulted (even Telefilm itself doesn't self-publish a complete directory of every film it's ever given a grant to since 1967), and (b) films are
defined by the studios that made them, not by the agencies or companies that happened to give money to the studios. Also, it's unclear why the creator used the French form of the name instead of the English one — this is the English Wikipedia, so even if there were grounds to keep this it would have to be renamed to "Telefilm Canada films" anyway.
Bearcat (
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Category:Kingdom of Ireland
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The result of the discussion was:merge.
✗plicit 01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom. It is an odd situation that the two categories co-exist even without being directly interlinked.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 21:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom. They are essentially the same thing.
Peterkingiron (
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Merge and redirect, to discourage re-creation, as there are three sub-cats with "Kingdom of Ireland" in their names. –
FayenaticLondon 09:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)reply
this should a separate discussion. First the merging, then we can discuss renaming. --
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Nominator's rationale: All of these categories have "disambiguation pages" in their titles, but every one of the pages contained in these categories uses a "set index article" template, namely {{
Storm index}}, not a disambiguation template. The categories should be renamed to accurately reflect what they contain. --
R'n'B (
call me Russ) 20:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)reply
That was done before my bold category renaming was reverted by another user. The bot is in the process of moving them back. --
R'n'B (
call me Russ) 01:21, 25 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment, some of the pages contain "(disambiguation)" in their name. This might suggest that they were meant to be disambiguation pages after all.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:17, 25 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment, moreover, many other storm name pages are the redirect target of pages with "(disambiguation)" in their name. Also, most of the pages are, I believe, marked as DAB on their talk page.
Drdpw (
talk) 12:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Support renaming. Any pages with (disambiguation) should be moved (or swapped) to another title. These are not disambiguation pages and the category name is currently confusing.
Shhhnotsoloud (
talk) 09:42, 28 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment many of these pages are titled "List of storms named …"; those pages with "(disambiguation)" in their title could could be moved accordingly.
Drdpw (
talk) 12:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Note & question,
Category:Tropical cyclone disambiguation pages is the parent category for those listed above. If the requested move gets the green light, the parent category ought to be renamed as well, yes?
Drdpw (
talk) 20:33, 28 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Qwerfjkltalk 12:20, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Rename to match the contents. Yes, the parent category should be renamed to. Yes, (disambiguation) page titles should be sorted out somehow. Yes, the entire concept of "set index articles" is a mess. None of these things influence the merits of this CfD.
* Pppery *it has begun... 18:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Roads in Hong Kong
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The result of the discussion was:Diffuse to new sub-categories. –
FayenaticLondon 13:13, 8 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Split according to the four statutory regions of the territory.
42.200.55.111 (
talk) 08:40, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
With more than 200 articles directly in this category the proposal seems a plausible way of diffusion.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:29, 2 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Support only on the condition that the existing category will be retained and kept as a parent category of the new categories and as a direct subcategory under
Category:Roads by country so as to preserve the link of the entire roads cats hierarchy.
203.145.94.160 (
talk) 03:41, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Fair point, it should be diffusing rather than splitting.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:55, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Diffuse -- leaving the existing cat as a container.
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
✗plicit 01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Fair enough. It can be implemented as rename as nominated, and manually moving some of the content thereafter.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 16:38, 2 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Would be fine with me.
Daranios (
talk) 19:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per nomination.
Category:Fictional bodies of water is currently a subcategory and could easily be re-categorized through the ordinary editing process.
Jontesta (
talk) 19:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Gymnastics manoeuvres
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The result of the discussion was:rename.
✗plicit 01:18, 9 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per nom.
Privybst (
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