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March 4

Category:Taxa named by Ronald Alan Fritzsche

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: author is redlinked and category is only populated by one article. He doesn't appear to have described many other species, if any, and is retired. Limited potential for growth. For more info about this and related categories created by this user, see discussion here. Enwebb ( talk) 20:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Doesn't aid navigation and likely never will. The WP:SMALLCAT exception for "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme" does not apply to nearly empty categories created in rapid succession. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:03, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 15:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete who named it is not defining to the actual taxa. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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People from Phocis‎

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The result of the discussion was: merge. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:36, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except cities and larger towns, in this case except Amfissa (7,000 people). This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge As nominated. This granular breakdown is hindering rather than aiding navigation. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 15:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:People from Kallieis

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The result of the discussion was: merge. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:37, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, borderline smallcat (5 articles), but Kallieis is not a populated place in itself, it is a 4th level administrative division consisting of several different villages. As the other 4th level and 3rd level administrative divisions are upmerged to 2nd level (except coinciding cities and bigger towns), merge for consistency. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge It's a small former area and only 1 of the 5 articles names it. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:16, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I don't have much to add just please don't call municipal units "former areas". They are there it's not like they were nuked when their administrative responsibilities changed. -- Antondimak ( talk) 18:01, 6 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:People from Delphi

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Category:Television series about journalists

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Users are free to purge the target category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category not offering a very clear or defining distinction from its parent. Literally by definition, a show about journalism has to involve journalists, and a show about journalists has to show them doing journalism, so there's no clear and unambiguous line to be drawn here as to whether a show is "about" journalism or journalists. Bearcat ( talk) 16:45, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete another "about" category failing WP:SUBJECTIVECAT and WP:V, without objective inclusion criteria: how much "about" the subject must the TV series be? and what WP:RS tell us it's at least that much?? Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 01:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Purge most, then merge per nom, journalism is a very minor and non-defining element of many of these series. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge Overlapping scope. Dimadick ( talk) 10:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 15:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Abandoned amusement parks in China

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The result of the discussion was: merge. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Parent category up for merger with "Defunct amusement parks". No clear difference between "abandoned" and "defunct". Astros4477 ( Talk) 14:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Grand Canyon, West region

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The scope of this new category is too vague and ambiguous to be defining. Grand Canyon West has a specific meaning, which is much narrower than this category seems to be. It refers to an area of the Hualapai Tribal Lands outside the National Park, as explained here. "Grand Canyon, West region" does not seem to have any officially defined meaning, and if it did, it would presumably merit an article. Mhockey ( talk) 13:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Anglican bishop categories

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The result of the discussion was: rename. There was not enough discussion about whether Category:Bishops of Australia/ Category:Anglican bishops of Australia should be deleted, so if users want to pursue this, a new nomination for Category:Anglican bishops of Australia should be allowed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Propose to amend capitalisation of Australian Anglican bishop categories to comply with MOS and for consistency. Deus et lex ( talk) 11:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The capitalisation is generally correct, becasue the title is "Bishop of Gippsland", not "bishop of Gippsland". Anglican is in the nature of a disambiguator. However perhaps the categories should just be Category:Bishops of Gippsland, unless there is a Catholic or other bishop using the same title. However Category:Anglican bishops in Australia or Category:Bishops of the Church of Australia would be better in that case. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:48, 6 March 2021 (UTC) reply
    • Comment - at the moment the categories are all over the place - some are lowercase, some are uppercase, and some (like "The Murray") don't mention they are Anglican. I would prefer consistency all round but I don't particularly care either way. If the consensus is to retain capitalisation then I'll be nominating the rest of the bishop categories to be fixed. Deus et lex ( talk) 22:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC) reply
      • Note prompted by this capitalisation discussion, I have boldly renamed many of the dioceses in the Anglican Church of Australia to "Diocese of Foo (Anglican Church of Australia)" which I think is clearer as well as being a possible model for the bishops. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 18:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
        • Comment - this needs to be discussed before doing that (I've moved them back). The current wording is simpler, and is in common usage anyway in most of the dioceses (and the pages have retained that wording for quite some time too). This discussion is about the bishop categories, not the diocesan page names. Deus et lex ( talk) 19:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Rename per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 15:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The title is "Bishop of [Foo]" (see, eg, Bishop of Tasmania), and "Anglican" is merely a disambiguator, because there are many similar Roman Catholic "Bishop [or Archbishop] of [Foo] [or similar]" titles as well. The categories named "Category:Anglican bishops of [Foo]" should therefore be renamed as "Category:Anglican Bishops of [Foo]". Bahnfrend ( talk) 09:44, 16 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Reply articles are singular, categories are plural. See Category:Roman Catholic bishops by diocese in the Republic of Ireland as an example of the tree structure. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 10:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • We have had discussions about capitalization before and this is what I recall about it, for what it is worth. While Bishop of Foo is a title, we are categorizing people holding that title. Anglican Bishops of Foo would imply multiple titles, while Anglican bishops of Foo is multiple people. Bishop is merely a descriptor in the latter case, not a title. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Assistant Bishops of Mount Kilimanjaro

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The result of the discussion was: merge. The current common practice seems to be that assistant bishops are placed in the related bishops category. Discussions could be held elsewhere if users want to change this. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one. All other assistant bishops seem to be in the same category as the substantial bishops. Rathfelder ( talk) 11:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose - including an assistant bishop in the Diocese of Mount Kilimanjaro in a category for "Bishops of Mount Kilimanjaro" is incorrect, the "Bishop of Mount Kilimanjaro" is the leader of the diocese, the other is an assistant bishop appointed within the diocese. I don't oppose a merging of the category to "Anglican bishops in Tanzania" which retains accuracy. Deus et lex ( talk) 12:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I've just found Category:Anglican assistant bishops by diocese in Australia. I dont think there are any other categories for assistants, and many bishop categories include assistants. Rathfelder ( talk) 12:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
    • The Australian categories exist because most of the Australian dioceses (particularly the metropolitan ones) have large numbers of assistant bishops, and you couldn't merge the assistant bishops into the metropolitan dioceses because their bishops are called Archbishop, and that would be incorrect. Deus et lex ( talk) 23:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Support - there are a few more here and there. Clearly the person in question (who is referred to as 'Bishop') is notable as someone in Mount Kilimanjaro and should be in a 'people' set category, not a topic 'Diocese' category. One could put 'bishops and assistant bishops'. I agree with Rathfelder that assistant bishops usually just go in the 'bishops' category. Oculi ( talk) 12:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - Putting the assistant bishops and bishops category together is incorrect. In England most of the assistant (suffragan) bishops have titles which enables them to be distinguished from the diocesan bishop, in other countries they don't (but this doesn't mean you can just combine them together). One is a title, the other is not. Please go and learn how the Anglican Communion works before making suggestions like this. I would support Marcocapelle's suggestion below for an alternative merge to "Anglican bishops in Tanzania", at least that would retain accuracy. Deus et lex ( talk) 22:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Did you read the comment above - they are both bishops, but the "Bishop of Mount Kilimanjaro" and an assistant bishop in the Diocese of Mount Kilimanjaro are different things, and it is factually incorrect to merge the two. Merging the category to Anglican bishops in Tanzania is much better for accuracy. Deus et lex ( talk) 02:31, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Oxidation states identified with non-Roman numerals

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The IUPAC recommends the use of Roman numerals for oxidation states in names. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 08:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Works of art commissioned by the police

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (there are currently two in the category; there can't be that many), and we don't have a scheme for works of art by commissioner. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Besides the term "police" is anachronistic in these two cases. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:23, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete more do-goodery by Sting! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:47, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete this appears to be the only category of art by who commissioned it, although we have Category:Building projects in Rome by instigator which seems an oddball too for various reasons. I don't think the commissioner of a work of art a defining for most art - it will be for some but mostly these are individuals not organizations as amorphous as "the police". Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 01:17, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete One was commissioned by the guild of fencers, who were responsible for security, but were not necessarily "police". The otehr article says nothing about police. So we should have an empty category. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:53, 6 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 16:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:People who purchased a nobility title

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure that this could be defining for someone. The only person it currently categorizes is Jan van den Eynde, who purchased not one for himself but for his son. Categorizing people by purchases they have made is probably not a road we want to go too far down. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:People from Puerto Ordaz

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from Ciudad Guayana. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:45, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Ciudad Guayana is the city combined from the previously separate settlements of Puerto Ordaz and San Félix. The article is Ciudad Guayana at and main category is Category:Ciudad Guayana, so we may as well have the "people from" category match these. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Renanme per nom and keep redirect. -- Just N. ( talk) 16:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Recipients of the National Order of the Lion

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD and WP:PERFCAT)
When heads of state and other officials visit Senegal or vice versa, the National Order of the Lion is given out as souvenir. General François Lecointre of France, Kim Jong-il of North Korea, UNICEF Chairman Torild Skard of Norway, and Princess Margriet of the Netherlands are not remotely defined by this award. (4 of the 37 articles are Senegalese— 1, 2, 3, 4—but they don't generally treat it as defining either.) There wasn't a list but there also is not a main article so I shoehorned the current category contents into a collapsible list right here in the Orders, decorations, and medals of Senegal article. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 01:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Recipients of the Order of Philip the Magnanimous

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD, WP:PERFCAT & WP:OVERLAPCAT)
When foreign royalty and other important guests visited the German Grand Duchy of Hesse or vice versa, the Order of Philip the Magnanimous was given out as souvenir. Alexander II of Russia, Kamehameha V of Hawaii, and Edward VII are not remotely defined by this award. Relations between the inter-married royal houses of Europe was likely also a factor.
Some Hessian nobility also received the award like Ernest Louis, Grand Duke of Hesse, Prince Frederick William of Hesse-Kassel, and Georg Donatus, Hereditary Grand Duke of Hesse but those articles are already somewhere under Category:House of Hesse. Both groups tend to mention this award in passing with other honours. There wasn't a list so I created a one right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 01:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Abandoned amusement parks

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Defunct amusement parks. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:49, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There does not appear to be a clear difference between "abandoned" and "defunct". At this point, it is just a duplicate category and would benefit from being merged together. Astros4477 ( Talk) 01:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, overlapping scope of the two categories. The subcategory should be nominated too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 16:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:34, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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March 4

Category:Taxa named by Ronald Alan Fritzsche

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT: author is redlinked and category is only populated by one article. He doesn't appear to have described many other species, if any, and is retired. Limited potential for growth. For more info about this and related categories created by this user, see discussion here. Enwebb ( talk) 20:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Doesn't aid navigation and likely never will. The WP:SMALLCAT exception for "a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme" does not apply to nearly empty categories created in rapid succession. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:03, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 15:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete who named it is not defining to the actual taxa. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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People from Phocis‎

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The result of the discussion was: merge. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:36, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, this concerns categorization by 3rd and 4th level administrative divisions of Greece, leading to a endless series of single-article or 2-article categories. The proposal is to merge to 2nd level administrative division, except cities and larger towns, in this case except Amfissa (7,000 people). This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge As nominated. This granular breakdown is hindering rather than aiding navigation. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 15:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:People from Kallieis

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The result of the discussion was: merge. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:37, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, borderline smallcat (5 articles), but Kallieis is not a populated place in itself, it is a 4th level administrative division consisting of several different villages. As the other 4th level and 3rd level administrative divisions are upmerged to 2nd level (except coinciding cities and bigger towns), merge for consistency. Marcocapelle ( talk) 17:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge It's a small former area and only 1 of the 5 articles names it. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:16, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I don't have much to add just please don't call municipal units "former areas". They are there it's not like they were nuked when their administrative responsibilities changed. -- Antondimak ( talk) 18:01, 6 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:People from Delphi

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 18#Category:People from Delphi

Category:Television series about journalists

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Users are free to purge the target category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Category not offering a very clear or defining distinction from its parent. Literally by definition, a show about journalism has to involve journalists, and a show about journalists has to show them doing journalism, so there's no clear and unambiguous line to be drawn here as to whether a show is "about" journalism or journalists. Bearcat ( talk) 16:45, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete another "about" category failing WP:SUBJECTIVECAT and WP:V, without objective inclusion criteria: how much "about" the subject must the TV series be? and what WP:RS tell us it's at least that much?? Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 01:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Purge most, then merge per nom, journalism is a very minor and non-defining element of many of these series. Marcocapelle ( talk) 03:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge Overlapping scope. Dimadick ( talk) 10:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 15:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Abandoned amusement parks in China

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The result of the discussion was: merge. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Parent category up for merger with "Defunct amusement parks". No clear difference between "abandoned" and "defunct". Astros4477 ( Talk) 14:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Grand Canyon, West region

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The scope of this new category is too vague and ambiguous to be defining. Grand Canyon West has a specific meaning, which is much narrower than this category seems to be. It refers to an area of the Hualapai Tribal Lands outside the National Park, as explained here. "Grand Canyon, West region" does not seem to have any officially defined meaning, and if it did, it would presumably merit an article. Mhockey ( talk) 13:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Anglican bishop categories

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The result of the discussion was: rename. There was not enough discussion about whether Category:Bishops of Australia/ Category:Anglican bishops of Australia should be deleted, so if users want to pursue this, a new nomination for Category:Anglican bishops of Australia should be allowed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Propose to amend capitalisation of Australian Anglican bishop categories to comply with MOS and for consistency. Deus et lex ( talk) 11:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The capitalisation is generally correct, becasue the title is "Bishop of Gippsland", not "bishop of Gippsland". Anglican is in the nature of a disambiguator. However perhaps the categories should just be Category:Bishops of Gippsland, unless there is a Catholic or other bishop using the same title. However Category:Anglican bishops in Australia or Category:Bishops of the Church of Australia would be better in that case. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:48, 6 March 2021 (UTC) reply
    • Comment - at the moment the categories are all over the place - some are lowercase, some are uppercase, and some (like "The Murray") don't mention they are Anglican. I would prefer consistency all round but I don't particularly care either way. If the consensus is to retain capitalisation then I'll be nominating the rest of the bishop categories to be fixed. Deus et lex ( talk) 22:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC) reply
      • Note prompted by this capitalisation discussion, I have boldly renamed many of the dioceses in the Anglican Church of Australia to "Diocese of Foo (Anglican Church of Australia)" which I think is clearer as well as being a possible model for the bishops. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 18:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
        • Comment - this needs to be discussed before doing that (I've moved them back). The current wording is simpler, and is in common usage anyway in most of the dioceses (and the pages have retained that wording for quite some time too). This discussion is about the bishop categories, not the diocesan page names. Deus et lex ( talk) 19:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Rename per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 15:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose The title is "Bishop of [Foo]" (see, eg, Bishop of Tasmania), and "Anglican" is merely a disambiguator, because there are many similar Roman Catholic "Bishop [or Archbishop] of [Foo] [or similar]" titles as well. The categories named "Category:Anglican bishops of [Foo]" should therefore be renamed as "Category:Anglican Bishops of [Foo]". Bahnfrend ( talk) 09:44, 16 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Reply articles are singular, categories are plural. See Category:Roman Catholic bishops by diocese in the Republic of Ireland as an example of the tree structure. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 10:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • We have had discussions about capitalization before and this is what I recall about it, for what it is worth. While Bishop of Foo is a title, we are categorizing people holding that title. Anglican Bishops of Foo would imply multiple titles, while Anglican bishops of Foo is multiple people. Bishop is merely a descriptor in the latter case, not a title. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Assistant Bishops of Mount Kilimanjaro

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The result of the discussion was: merge. The current common practice seems to be that assistant bishops are placed in the related bishops category. Discussions could be held elsewhere if users want to change this. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only one. All other assistant bishops seem to be in the same category as the substantial bishops. Rathfelder ( talk) 11:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose - including an assistant bishop in the Diocese of Mount Kilimanjaro in a category for "Bishops of Mount Kilimanjaro" is incorrect, the "Bishop of Mount Kilimanjaro" is the leader of the diocese, the other is an assistant bishop appointed within the diocese. I don't oppose a merging of the category to "Anglican bishops in Tanzania" which retains accuracy. Deus et lex ( talk) 12:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • I've just found Category:Anglican assistant bishops by diocese in Australia. I dont think there are any other categories for assistants, and many bishop categories include assistants. Rathfelder ( talk) 12:26, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
    • The Australian categories exist because most of the Australian dioceses (particularly the metropolitan ones) have large numbers of assistant bishops, and you couldn't merge the assistant bishops into the metropolitan dioceses because their bishops are called Archbishop, and that would be incorrect. Deus et lex ( talk) 23:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Support - there are a few more here and there. Clearly the person in question (who is referred to as 'Bishop') is notable as someone in Mount Kilimanjaro and should be in a 'people' set category, not a topic 'Diocese' category. One could put 'bishops and assistant bishops'. I agree with Rathfelder that assistant bishops usually just go in the 'bishops' category. Oculi ( talk) 12:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - Putting the assistant bishops and bishops category together is incorrect. In England most of the assistant (suffragan) bishops have titles which enables them to be distinguished from the diocesan bishop, in other countries they don't (but this doesn't mean you can just combine them together). One is a title, the other is not. Please go and learn how the Anglican Communion works before making suggestions like this. I would support Marcocapelle's suggestion below for an alternative merge to "Anglican bishops in Tanzania", at least that would retain accuracy. Deus et lex ( talk) 22:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Did you read the comment above - they are both bishops, but the "Bishop of Mount Kilimanjaro" and an assistant bishop in the Diocese of Mount Kilimanjaro are different things, and it is factually incorrect to merge the two. Merging the category to Anglican bishops in Tanzania is much better for accuracy. Deus et lex ( talk) 02:31, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Oxidation states identified with non-Roman numerals

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The IUPAC recommends the use of Roman numerals for oxidation states in names. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 08:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Works of art commissioned by the police

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (there are currently two in the category; there can't be that many), and we don't have a scheme for works of art by commissioner. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Besides the term "police" is anachronistic in these two cases. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:23, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete more do-goodery by Sting! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:47, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete this appears to be the only category of art by who commissioned it, although we have Category:Building projects in Rome by instigator which seems an oddball too for various reasons. I don't think the commissioner of a work of art a defining for most art - it will be for some but mostly these are individuals not organizations as amorphous as "the police". Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 01:17, 5 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete One was commissioned by the guild of fencers, who were responsible for security, but were not necessarily "police". The otehr article says nothing about police. So we should have an empty category. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:53, 6 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 16:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:People who purchased a nobility title

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure that this could be defining for someone. The only person it currently categorizes is Jan van den Eynde, who purchased not one for himself but for his son. Categorizing people by purchases they have made is probably not a road we want to go too far down. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:People from Puerto Ordaz

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from Ciudad Guayana. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:45, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Ciudad Guayana is the city combined from the previously separate settlements of Puerto Ordaz and San Félix. The article is Ciudad Guayana at and main category is Category:Ciudad Guayana, so we may as well have the "people from" category match these. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Renanme per nom and keep redirect. -- Just N. ( talk) 16:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Recipients of the National Order of the Lion

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD and WP:PERFCAT)
When heads of state and other officials visit Senegal or vice versa, the National Order of the Lion is given out as souvenir. General François Lecointre of France, Kim Jong-il of North Korea, UNICEF Chairman Torild Skard of Norway, and Princess Margriet of the Netherlands are not remotely defined by this award. (4 of the 37 articles are Senegalese— 1, 2, 3, 4—but they don't generally treat it as defining either.) There wasn't a list but there also is not a main article so I shoehorned the current category contents into a collapsible list right here in the Orders, decorations, and medals of Senegal article. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 01:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Recipients of the Order of Philip the Magnanimous

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD, WP:PERFCAT & WP:OVERLAPCAT)
When foreign royalty and other important guests visited the German Grand Duchy of Hesse or vice versa, the Order of Philip the Magnanimous was given out as souvenir. Alexander II of Russia, Kamehameha V of Hawaii, and Edward VII are not remotely defined by this award. Relations between the inter-married royal houses of Europe was likely also a factor.
Some Hessian nobility also received the award like Ernest Louis, Grand Duke of Hesse, Prince Frederick William of Hesse-Kassel, and Georg Donatus, Hereditary Grand Duke of Hesse but those articles are already somewhere under Category:House of Hesse. Both groups tend to mention this award in passing with other honours. There wasn't a list so I created a one right here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 01:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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Category:Abandoned amusement parks

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Defunct amusement parks. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:49, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: There does not appear to be a clear difference between "abandoned" and "defunct". At this point, it is just a duplicate category and would benefit from being merged together. Astros4477 ( Talk) 01:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, overlapping scope of the two categories. The subcategory should be nominated too. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. -- Just N. ( talk) 16:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:34, 12 March 2021 (UTC) reply

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