September 4
Category:Construction terminology
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge.
MER-C 10:31, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Construction terminology to Category:Building engineering
- Nominator's rationale: The articles in this category are most (if not all) articles about things ( Brickwork, Concrete slab, Log cabin etc); not articles about terminology (the words used to refer to those things). Wp articles should be categorized by the article's topic; not by whether or not the article's title is a term. Nor should "terminology" categories be miscellaneous categories.
- Note: I've not proposed to upmerge to Category:Construction industry as that's specifically for commercial activity which most of these articles don't belong in. Some of the articles (e.g. Joint (building)) are already in one of the parent categories.
- Example
previous similar CFD.
DexDor
(talk) 17:24, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: Interestingly, the creation of this category was the 2nd (and last) edit made by that editor (their 1st edit was adding the category tag to an article that isn't about construction). As is often the case with such categories, once it's been created other editors "dump" articles into it. DexDor (talk) 17:32, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Meanwhile many of these "terminology" categories have been merged or deleted for the same reason. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:25, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Doubtful The two categories are indeed similar, but I think there is a narrow distinction. One is about parts of a building, the other about the process of building. They may well be items in the subject that would be better in the target, and vice versa. Both are quite large categories (over 100 articles). Large categories are much less useable as navigation tools. There may be a case for a Rename and purge or a headnote better defining its scope as being about terminology for parts of a building (with a purge). Peterkingiron ( talk) 12:05, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- What has a "terminology" category (i.e. placing some articles under Category:Linguistics) got to do with separating articles about objects from articles about processes? (both objects and processes have titles that are terminology, but neither are within the topic of terminology). The current category contains many articles about objects (e.g. Joist and Purlin) and many articles about processes (e.g. Moling and Rubblization). DexDor (talk) 18:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per multiple precedents. I agree that the proposed target is appropriate. – Fayenatic London 22:11, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Vũ Cát Tường
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:43, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary parent for only two albums already categorized in the subcat Category:Vũ Cát Tường albums. Overcategorization per WP:OCEPON. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 05:59, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:06, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Winter festivals in North America
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge
Category:Winter festivals in North America, do not merge
Category:Winter festivals by country.
MER-C 10:33, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Winter festivals in North America to Category:Winter festivals
- Propose merging Category:Winter festivals by country to Category:Winter festivals
- Nominator's rationale: merge in order to remove this intermediate category layer, that will make it easier to navigate from Category:Winter festivals to Category:Winter festivals in Canada and Category:Winter festivals in the United States. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:55, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support merging the continental category, but oppose merging the by country category, which has plenty of room for expansion and is a standard way of categorising such things. Grutness... wha? 03:42, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Plenty is certainly an exaggeration. Category:Winter festivals currently contains only 30 articles and not all of them are tied to a particular country. The phenomenon of winter festivals other than Christmas-related festivals is quite unkown in most European countries. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:52, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hm - perhaps they're more of a southern hemisphere phenomenon then. And there's certainly quite a bit of undercategorisation there. There is definitely room for expansion though - I've added a UK category. Grutness... wha? 02:29, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Eliminate continent; keep by country. There is plenty of scope for more country categories. Looking at the list article, I suspect there are some that should not appear, because they are not necessarily in the winter: and I suspect it should be "northern winter". Christmas in Australia is a summer festival. Peterkingiron ( talk) 12:10, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Nansen Refugee Award winners
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 September 15#Category:Nansen Refugee Award winners
Eponymous categories named after Indian actors
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- The result of the discussion was: delete.
MER-C 13:44, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Vidya Balan (
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Category:Sunny Deol (
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Category:Kajol (
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Category:Ayushmann Khurrana (
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Category:Mammootty (
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Category:Hrithik Roshan (
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Category:Vidya Balan (
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- Nominator's rationale: These categories named after Indian actors each only have two articles (a filmography and a list of awards) in addition to its eponymous article. WP:OCEPON and WP:EPCATPERS suggest these should be created only "in certain very notable cases" and when there are "enough directly related articles". Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 04:46, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:05, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:15, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
September 4
Category:Construction terminology
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge.
MER-C 10:31, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Construction terminology to Category:Building engineering
- Nominator's rationale: The articles in this category are most (if not all) articles about things ( Brickwork, Concrete slab, Log cabin etc); not articles about terminology (the words used to refer to those things). Wp articles should be categorized by the article's topic; not by whether or not the article's title is a term. Nor should "terminology" categories be miscellaneous categories.
- Note: I've not proposed to upmerge to Category:Construction industry as that's specifically for commercial activity which most of these articles don't belong in. Some of the articles (e.g. Joint (building)) are already in one of the parent categories.
- Example
previous similar CFD.
DexDor
(talk) 17:24, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: Interestingly, the creation of this category was the 2nd (and last) edit made by that editor (their 1st edit was adding the category tag to an article that isn't about construction). As is often the case with such categories, once it's been created other editors "dump" articles into it. DexDor (talk) 17:32, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Meanwhile many of these "terminology" categories have been merged or deleted for the same reason. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:25, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Doubtful The two categories are indeed similar, but I think there is a narrow distinction. One is about parts of a building, the other about the process of building. They may well be items in the subject that would be better in the target, and vice versa. Both are quite large categories (over 100 articles). Large categories are much less useable as navigation tools. There may be a case for a Rename and purge or a headnote better defining its scope as being about terminology for parts of a building (with a purge). Peterkingiron ( talk) 12:05, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- What has a "terminology" category (i.e. placing some articles under Category:Linguistics) got to do with separating articles about objects from articles about processes? (both objects and processes have titles that are terminology, but neither are within the topic of terminology). The current category contains many articles about objects (e.g. Joist and Purlin) and many articles about processes (e.g. Moling and Rubblization). DexDor (talk) 18:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per multiple precedents. I agree that the proposed target is appropriate. – Fayenatic London 22:11, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Vũ Cát Tường
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:43, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary parent for only two albums already categorized in the subcat Category:Vũ Cát Tường albums. Overcategorization per WP:OCEPON. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 05:59, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:06, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Winter festivals in North America
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge
Category:Winter festivals in North America, do not merge
Category:Winter festivals by country.
MER-C 10:33, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Winter festivals in North America to Category:Winter festivals
- Propose merging Category:Winter festivals by country to Category:Winter festivals
- Nominator's rationale: merge in order to remove this intermediate category layer, that will make it easier to navigate from Category:Winter festivals to Category:Winter festivals in Canada and Category:Winter festivals in the United States. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:55, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support merging the continental category, but oppose merging the by country category, which has plenty of room for expansion and is a standard way of categorising such things. Grutness... wha? 03:42, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Plenty is certainly an exaggeration. Category:Winter festivals currently contains only 30 articles and not all of them are tied to a particular country. The phenomenon of winter festivals other than Christmas-related festivals is quite unkown in most European countries. Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:52, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hm - perhaps they're more of a southern hemisphere phenomenon then. And there's certainly quite a bit of undercategorisation there. There is definitely room for expansion though - I've added a UK category. Grutness... wha? 02:29, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Eliminate continent; keep by country. There is plenty of scope for more country categories. Looking at the list article, I suspect there are some that should not appear, because they are not necessarily in the winter: and I suspect it should be "northern winter". Christmas in Australia is a summer festival. Peterkingiron ( talk) 12:10, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Nansen Refugee Award winners
Relisted, see
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 September 15#Category:Nansen Refugee Award winners
Eponymous categories named after Indian actors
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete.
MER-C 13:44, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Vidya Balan (
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talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
-
Category:Sunny Deol (
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talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
-
Category:Govinda (actor) (
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talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
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Category:Kajol (
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talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
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Category:Irrfan Khan (
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talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
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Category:Ayushmann Khurrana (
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talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
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Category:Mammootty (
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talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
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Category:Hrithik Roshan (
|
talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
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Category:Vidya Balan (
|
talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
- Nominator's rationale: These categories named after Indian actors each only have two articles (a filmography and a list of awards) in addition to its eponymous article. WP:OCEPON and WP:EPCATPERS suggest these should be created only "in certain very notable cases" and when there are "enough directly related articles". Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 04:46, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:05, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:15, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.