Category:Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation
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Black Falcon(
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@
Armbrust: Checking the article
Kremlin Press Secretary, Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation is the offical title of the role.
Tim! (
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Tim! we usually follow
WP:COMMONNAME and match categories to article names, not full formal names except in cases of ambiguity. –
FayenaticLondon 07:59, 1 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Support, should have been an uncontroversial case of
WP:C2D.
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Category:Wikipedians who play Unknown Armies
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Nominator's rationale: Violates
WP:USERCAT in that this category does not foster encyclopedic collaboration. It does not help encyclopedia building to know which games people play.
Extensive precedent to delete these type of categories.
VegaDark (
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Delete as having an
overly narrow scope. Even if playing a video game implied any interest in collaborating on articles related to it, any potential for collaboration is limited to just one or a few articles—with a few exceptions for expansive video game series that have tens or hundreds of related articles. In this case, any collaboration would be limited to just one article and, therefore, could take place just as easily on the article's talk page. --
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Category:Byzantine Latin language
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Black Falcon(
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Query Is the Byzantine Latin language a real thing? Wouldn't every part of the empire speak Latin slightly differently? Does that make each of them a dialect or a distinct language? Are there sources saying that this is a thing?
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 21:04, 29 August 2017 (UTC)reply
By
Nicolas Oikonomidès - Byzantine Lead Seals, between 5th to 7th centuries, Byzaintine inscriptions were a unique form of Latin with Greek case endings, which was quite distinct from standard Latin (meaning Vulgar Latin and Late Latin for the time).
GreyShark (
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Merge as proposed. I daresay there were Latin dialects just as there are English dialects, but would anyone seriously create
Category:Yorkshire English language or
Category:Manx English language? In any event, I do not believe there was any substantial difference in Latin speech or script. If there was, verification is necessary. CravinChillies 08:15, 31 August 2017 (UTC)reply
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Black Falcon(
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Dual Upmerge for Now Too little content to aid navigation but no objection to recreating later if more content appears. 00:28, 1 October 2017 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
RevelationDirect (
talk •
contribs)
Merge as per my comment below; no valid entries into the category, validity of the category at all is disputable.
Mr rnddude (
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full upmerge (as nom). Even if this is a genuine language or dialect (of which I am not sure) and we had a main article, that would only make 3 articles, which is not enough for a category. If this were an AFD about an article, my response would be to keep it.
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Category:Byzantine Latin inscriptions
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Black Falcon(
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Nominator's rationale:merge, the category suggests some use of Latin in the Byzantine Empire but that gives a wrong impression. All three inscriptions in this category are from the time that the Byzantine Empire was merely the eastern half of the Roman Empire (4th/5th century).
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:44, 27 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep - Byzantine Latin somewhat differed from Western Roman and of course Byzantium and Western Rome turned separated by mid 4th century CE.
GreyShark (
dibra) 11:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)reply
By what sources does a Byzantine Latin dialect exist? By what sources are these inscriptions written in this dialect?
Marcocapelle (
talk) 20:01, 28 August 2017 (UTC)reply
By
Nicolas Oikonomidès - Byzantine Lead Seals, who clearly says that between 5th to 7th centuries, Byzaintine inscriptions were a unique form of Latin with Greek case endings, which was quite distinct from standard Latin.
GreyShark (
dibra) 13:06, 3 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Does this also apply to the 4th/5th century inscriptions that are in this category?
Marcocapelle (
talk) 18:14, 3 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge as proposed. I do not believe there was any substantial difference in Latin speech or script. If there was, verification is necessary and I don't see any such verification in the relevant articles. CravinChillies 08:18, 31 August 2017 (UTC)reply
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Merge - I am not convinced by the source presented that Byzantine Latin is a dialect. Indeed, nowhere in the source is a dialect mentioned. There is mention that Latin and Greek inscriptions were found on the same seals, and, that sometimes Latin words were given Greek case endings, but, no mention of this forming a dialect/language or anything else. Besides that, the entries into the category don't fit the description presented above either. The
Column of Marcian, the first entry into the category, has an inscription that is written in Latin. The same is true of the
Column of the Goths. The
Obelisk of Theodosius, has both a Latin and a Byzantine Greek inscription. Nowhere do I see a mention of a Latin-Greek hybridization or a Latin dialect that could possibly be called "Byzantine Latin". Indeed, I don't even see an instance of a Latin word receiving a Greek case ending. That puts us back to zero valid entries into the category should it actually be a valid category at all.
Mr rnddude (
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Merge -- While there is slight evidence of a diglot appearing on seals, all the content appears to me to relate to inscriptions in standard Latin. The Byzantine element in the category relates to the location of 3 columns in Istanbul (formerly Byzantium).
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Category:Sportspeople from Dnipropetrovsk
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The result of the discussion was:rename. –
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Category:People from Brindle, Lancashire
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Black Falcon(
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCATs for just one or two people from small villages. As always, every populated place that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment we have just one or two articles about people from there -- until the number of articles actually justifies a dedicated category (i.e. at least five or six, though preferably double-digits), we just file those people in the category for the parent borough or county.
Bearcat (
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Merge per SMALLCAT. For the most part the nominator is right. There is a small exception for US people places if a community is in more than one-county. There have been at least two CFDs on that saying those categories even if small are kept.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof? 18:10, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Support 5 articles is the usual minimum.
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Category:Globalization terminology
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ℯxplicit 06:38, 10 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:upmerge, the scope of this category is identical to its parent category, there is nothing that the articles in this subcategory have in common except that they are about globalization.
Marcocapelle (
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Upmerge On Wikipedia we uses words and phrases (aka terminology) to let people know what a given page is about.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 09:52, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Question Looking at
Category:Terminology we have a whole category tree devoted to collecting the jargon used in various fields. Is there are reason this particular field terminology cat is singled out for deletion/upmerge? --
Mark viking (
talk) 17:45, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
No but we should be careful not to nominate categories which are really about terminology (i.e. about linguistics). Many terminology categories have been deleted already, each on their own.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 21:05, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
I wouldn't go so far as to say that whole category tree shouldn't exist, but many of those subcategories serve as a catchall that don't aid navigation.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:32, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Thank you all for your answers and the essay link. --
Mark viking (
talk) 21:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Either upmerge or purge of all articles that aren't at the intersection of
globalization and
terminology. Some of these articles are about terminology (e.g.
Global South - although I'm not sure that really is about globalization), but many of the articles in this category are not. DexDor(talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Upmerge I can see the points about categorizing the topic, not the term and how terminology cats can become poor shadow categories of the main topic. On the other hand, the number of these terminology categories and keep votes at related CfD discussions suggest that people really do want the categorical analog of a glossary. The term cats probably need an RfC to decide policy on this. Such a future solution should not get in the way of cleaning up current difficulties, however. Hence upmerge for now with no prejudice to creating some sort of categorical glossary structure in the future. --
Mark viking (
talk) 21:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Mark viking, I've looked at a sample of the previous CFDs for terms/terminology categories and none of them mentioned the word "glossary" so I don't see any evidence that the creators/defenders of these categories see them as "the categorical analog of a glossary" - and many of the articles that are placed in these categories are not about things that would normally appear in a glossary anyway (
example). Often a terminology category is legit (as it contains some articles about terminology), but then people put articles about other things (e.g.
Abrasion collar) into it so I think it's more a case of editors not following the existing policies/guidance (e.g.
WP:REFERS,
WP:SUBCAT) or categorizing based on the title rather than the topic. Do you have any thoughts about a policy/guideline that could be changed (e.g. by RfC) to make it clearer? We already have glossaries (e.g.
Glossary of cricket) so I don't see any benefit of introducing a "categorical glossary structure" and lots of disbenefits (e.g. adding further complexity). DexDor(talk) 06:39, 5 October 2017 (UTC)reply
@
DexDor, "Glossary" is my own interpretation of the desire to add non-terminology articles to terminology categories. For instance, an editor sees an article like
glocalization. The content clearly belongs in the globalization cat or some subcat. But the term is also part of the globalization-specific jargon and wouldn't it be nice to collect jargon-y terms like this into a cat of globalization terminology? Collecting such terms into a globalization glossary/jargon article is the better solution, but the motivation for a terminology cat is there. As long as people think "jargon" is a defining characteristic, they will want terminology/jargon cats. We can be prescriptive about categorizing content, not title. But if that goes against their desire to categorize terms as jargon, it is always going to be an uphill battle. I don't have a good solution. --
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Category:Roman Catholic churches in Belleville, Illinois
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Churches in Belleville, Illinois has no articles in it. Only this subcategory of Roman Catholic churches has articles. So putting them in Churches in Belleville, Illinois does not solve the problem of having a very small category that is unlikely to grow.--
TM 11:13, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Support The alt target is also too small, unless this can be populated quickly.
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Category:Churches in Barrington, Illinois
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Category:Recipients of the Medal of the Armed Forces in the Service of the Fatherland
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The
Medal of the Armed Forces in the Service of the Fatherland comes in three grades: Gold, Silver and Bronze awarded, respectively, for 25, 15 and 5 years of service in the Polish armed forces. Serving in the military is defining; receiving an award for serving an arbitrary number of years is not. I listed the recipients of the award
here.-
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Background We deleted similar military years of service awards from other countries
here,
here,
here and
here. -
RevelationDirect (
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Delete -- Long service medals are NN awards.
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Category:Recipients of the Nigerian Independence Medal
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Black Falcon(
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The
Nigerian Independence Medal was automatically given to every member of the military, police forces or land forces who was employed on 1 October 1960 (Nigerian Independence Day). If you retired on September 30th or started on October 2nd, you would not receive this award. The recipients of this award are already listed
here. –
RevelationDirect (
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Background We've deleted an identical category for Fiji
here. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:31, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete There are only three pages in it, and I am unsure this is an award of merit, it appears to be a national gift to a whole group, celebrating independence. I am sure it's a nice piece of bling, but I would not base notability on it.
Dysklyver 07:54, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete -- Looks like a NN award, like campaign stars.
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Category:Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation
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The result of the discussion was:rename. --
Black Falcon(
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@
Armbrust: Checking the article
Kremlin Press Secretary, Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation is the offical title of the role.
Tim! (
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Tim! we usually follow
WP:COMMONNAME and match categories to article names, not full formal names except in cases of ambiguity. –
FayenaticLondon 07:59, 1 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Support, should have been an uncontroversial case of
WP:C2D.
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Category:Wikipedians who play Unknown Armies
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Nominator's rationale: Violates
WP:USERCAT in that this category does not foster encyclopedic collaboration. It does not help encyclopedia building to know which games people play.
Extensive precedent to delete these type of categories.
VegaDark (
talk) 21:09, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete as having an
overly narrow scope. Even if playing a video game implied any interest in collaborating on articles related to it, any potential for collaboration is limited to just one or a few articles—with a few exceptions for expansive video game series that have tens or hundreds of related articles. In this case, any collaboration would be limited to just one article and, therefore, could take place just as easily on the article's talk page. --
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Category:Byzantine Latin language
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Black Falcon(
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Query Is the Byzantine Latin language a real thing? Wouldn't every part of the empire speak Latin slightly differently? Does that make each of them a dialect or a distinct language? Are there sources saying that this is a thing?
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 21:04, 29 August 2017 (UTC)reply
By
Nicolas Oikonomidès - Byzantine Lead Seals, between 5th to 7th centuries, Byzaintine inscriptions were a unique form of Latin with Greek case endings, which was quite distinct from standard Latin (meaning Vulgar Latin and Late Latin for the time).
GreyShark (
dibra) 13:10, 3 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge as proposed. I daresay there were Latin dialects just as there are English dialects, but would anyone seriously create
Category:Yorkshire English language or
Category:Manx English language? In any event, I do not believe there was any substantial difference in Latin speech or script. If there was, verification is necessary. CravinChillies 08:15, 31 August 2017 (UTC)reply
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Black Falcon(
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Dual Upmerge for Now Too little content to aid navigation but no objection to recreating later if more content appears. 00:28, 1 October 2017 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
RevelationDirect (
talk •
contribs)
Merge as per my comment below; no valid entries into the category, validity of the category at all is disputable.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 02:55, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
full upmerge (as nom). Even if this is a genuine language or dialect (of which I am not sure) and we had a main article, that would only make 3 articles, which is not enough for a category. If this were an AFD about an article, my response would be to keep it.
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Category:Byzantine Latin inscriptions
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Black Falcon(
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Nominator's rationale:merge, the category suggests some use of Latin in the Byzantine Empire but that gives a wrong impression. All three inscriptions in this category are from the time that the Byzantine Empire was merely the eastern half of the Roman Empire (4th/5th century).
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:44, 27 August 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep - Byzantine Latin somewhat differed from Western Roman and of course Byzantium and Western Rome turned separated by mid 4th century CE.
GreyShark (
dibra) 11:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)reply
By what sources does a Byzantine Latin dialect exist? By what sources are these inscriptions written in this dialect?
Marcocapelle (
talk) 20:01, 28 August 2017 (UTC)reply
By
Nicolas Oikonomidès - Byzantine Lead Seals, who clearly says that between 5th to 7th centuries, Byzaintine inscriptions were a unique form of Latin with Greek case endings, which was quite distinct from standard Latin.
GreyShark (
dibra) 13:06, 3 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Does this also apply to the 4th/5th century inscriptions that are in this category?
Marcocapelle (
talk) 18:14, 3 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge as proposed. I do not believe there was any substantial difference in Latin speech or script. If there was, verification is necessary and I don't see any such verification in the relevant articles. CravinChillies 08:18, 31 August 2017 (UTC)reply
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Black Falcon(
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Merge - I am not convinced by the source presented that Byzantine Latin is a dialect. Indeed, nowhere in the source is a dialect mentioned. There is mention that Latin and Greek inscriptions were found on the same seals, and, that sometimes Latin words were given Greek case endings, but, no mention of this forming a dialect/language or anything else. Besides that, the entries into the category don't fit the description presented above either. The
Column of Marcian, the first entry into the category, has an inscription that is written in Latin. The same is true of the
Column of the Goths. The
Obelisk of Theodosius, has both a Latin and a Byzantine Greek inscription. Nowhere do I see a mention of a Latin-Greek hybridization or a Latin dialect that could possibly be called "Byzantine Latin". Indeed, I don't even see an instance of a Latin word receiving a Greek case ending. That puts us back to zero valid entries into the category should it actually be a valid category at all.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 02:54, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge -- While there is slight evidence of a diglot appearing on seals, all the content appears to me to relate to inscriptions in standard Latin. The Byzantine element in the category relates to the location of 3 columns in Istanbul (formerly Byzantium).
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Category:Sportspeople from Dnipropetrovsk
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The result of the discussion was:rename. –
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Category:People from Brindle, Lancashire
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Black Falcon(
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCATs for just one or two people from small villages. As always, every populated place that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment we have just one or two articles about people from there -- until the number of articles actually justifies a dedicated category (i.e. at least five or six, though preferably double-digits), we just file those people in the category for the parent borough or county.
Bearcat (
talk) 14:57, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge per SMALLCAT. For the most part the nominator is right. There is a small exception for US people places if a community is in more than one-county. There have been at least two CFDs on that saying those categories even if small are kept.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof? 18:10, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Support 5 articles is the usual minimum.
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Category:Globalization terminology
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ℯxplicit 06:38, 10 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:upmerge, the scope of this category is identical to its parent category, there is nothing that the articles in this subcategory have in common except that they are about globalization.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 09:23, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Upmerge On Wikipedia we uses words and phrases (aka terminology) to let people know what a given page is about.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 09:52, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Question Looking at
Category:Terminology we have a whole category tree devoted to collecting the jargon used in various fields. Is there are reason this particular field terminology cat is singled out for deletion/upmerge? --
Mark viking (
talk) 17:45, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
No but we should be careful not to nominate categories which are really about terminology (i.e. about linguistics). Many terminology categories have been deleted already, each on their own.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 21:05, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
I wouldn't go so far as to say that whole category tree shouldn't exist, but many of those subcategories serve as a catchall that don't aid navigation.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:32, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Thank you all for your answers and the essay link. --
Mark viking (
talk) 21:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Either upmerge or purge of all articles that aren't at the intersection of
globalization and
terminology. Some of these articles are about terminology (e.g.
Global South - although I'm not sure that really is about globalization), but many of the articles in this category are not. DexDor(talk) 20:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Upmerge I can see the points about categorizing the topic, not the term and how terminology cats can become poor shadow categories of the main topic. On the other hand, the number of these terminology categories and keep votes at related CfD discussions suggest that people really do want the categorical analog of a glossary. The term cats probably need an RfC to decide policy on this. Such a future solution should not get in the way of cleaning up current difficulties, however. Hence upmerge for now with no prejudice to creating some sort of categorical glossary structure in the future. --
Mark viking (
talk) 21:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Mark viking, I've looked at a sample of the previous CFDs for terms/terminology categories and none of them mentioned the word "glossary" so I don't see any evidence that the creators/defenders of these categories see them as "the categorical analog of a glossary" - and many of the articles that are placed in these categories are not about things that would normally appear in a glossary anyway (
example). Often a terminology category is legit (as it contains some articles about terminology), but then people put articles about other things (e.g.
Abrasion collar) into it so I think it's more a case of editors not following the existing policies/guidance (e.g.
WP:REFERS,
WP:SUBCAT) or categorizing based on the title rather than the topic. Do you have any thoughts about a policy/guideline that could be changed (e.g. by RfC) to make it clearer? We already have glossaries (e.g.
Glossary of cricket) so I don't see any benefit of introducing a "categorical glossary structure" and lots of disbenefits (e.g. adding further complexity). DexDor(talk) 06:39, 5 October 2017 (UTC)reply
@
DexDor, "Glossary" is my own interpretation of the desire to add non-terminology articles to terminology categories. For instance, an editor sees an article like
glocalization. The content clearly belongs in the globalization cat or some subcat. But the term is also part of the globalization-specific jargon and wouldn't it be nice to collect jargon-y terms like this into a cat of globalization terminology? Collecting such terms into a globalization glossary/jargon article is the better solution, but the motivation for a terminology cat is there. As long as people think "jargon" is a defining characteristic, they will want terminology/jargon cats. We can be prescriptive about categorizing content, not title. But if that goes against their desire to categorize terms as jargon, it is always going to be an uphill battle. I don't have a good solution. --
Mark viking (
talk) 09:09, 5 October 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Roman Catholic churches in Belleville, Illinois
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Churches in Belleville, Illinois has no articles in it. Only this subcategory of Roman Catholic churches has articles. So putting them in Churches in Belleville, Illinois does not solve the problem of having a very small category that is unlikely to grow.--
TM 11:13, 1 October 2017 (UTC)reply
Support The alt target is also too small, unless this can be populated quickly.
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Category:Churches in Barrington, Illinois
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Category:Recipients of the Medal of the Armed Forces in the Service of the Fatherland
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The
Medal of the Armed Forces in the Service of the Fatherland comes in three grades: Gold, Silver and Bronze awarded, respectively, for 25, 15 and 5 years of service in the Polish armed forces. Serving in the military is defining; receiving an award for serving an arbitrary number of years is not. I listed the recipients of the award
here.-
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Background We deleted similar military years of service awards from other countries
here,
here,
here and
here. -
RevelationDirect (
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Delete -- Long service medals are NN awards.
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Category:Recipients of the Nigerian Independence Medal
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The result of the discussion was:delete. --
Black Falcon(
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The
Nigerian Independence Medal was automatically given to every member of the military, police forces or land forces who was employed on 1 October 1960 (Nigerian Independence Day). If you retired on September 30th or started on October 2nd, you would not receive this award. The recipients of this award are already listed
here. –
RevelationDirect (
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Background We've deleted an identical category for Fiji
here. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:31, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete There are only three pages in it, and I am unsure this is an award of merit, it appears to be a national gift to a whole group, celebrating independence. I am sure it's a nice piece of bling, but I would not base notability on it.
Dysklyver 07:54, 30 September 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete -- Looks like a NN award, like campaign stars.
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