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Nominator's rationale: I can't see any distinction between them.
Lophotrochozoa (
talk) 23:16, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep From reading the
Anthrozoology article and it's links, anthrozoology seems to be a particular theoretical perspective/research agenda. I'd never heard of it before, but I am pretty familiar with
ethnozoology. Anthrozoology seems to focus more on domesticated animals (especially pets) and western culture. Ethnozoology focuses more on wild animals and non-western cultures; ethnozoological studies I'm familiar with looked at how birds are classified in a particular culture or identified archeological remains of wild animals hunted for food. Neither ethnozoology nor anthrozoology are appropriate as catch all terms for the relationship between humans and animals. The Anthrozoology category is pretty messy though and has stuff that would be better suited to the Animals and humans category.
Plantdrew (
talk) 22:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Should we write a category description to prevent misuse?
Lophotrochozoa (
talk) 19:08, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Reverse merge, too little of the content of the target category seems to fit
Anthrozoology. If kept, purge heavily.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Animals by classification
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Just delete the 2 daughter categories are already in granddaughter categories of the target anyway, and we don't need to have them (also) a level up which merger would do. E.g., invertebrates by classification should be under invertebrates which is under animal taxonomy, not having the two as sisters both under animal taxonomy.
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Category:Eastern Orthodox education
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. –
FayenaticLondon 21:50, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:delete, only contains one child category and no articles. There is no need to upmerge because the content is already somewhere else in the Eastern Orthodox tree (namely in
Category:Eastern Orthodox organizations.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:47, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Support but without prejudice as to its later creation should volumes increase.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 13:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep.
Category:Christian education contains a series of other categories of the form "FooDEnomination education". This seems to be a good idea, worth expanding and developing. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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@
Marcocapelle: I don't think it helps navigation to prune a part of the tree like that. If this deletion proceeds, then a reader looking at
Category:Christian education will see that we have subcats for some denominations but not others, and could reasonably conclude that we don't have any content for the other denominations. That doesn't help. Plus, if an editor does create an article which would fit directly into
Category:Eastern Orthodox education, then then they may now how to create it, but they are much less likely to know that there are categories further down tree which should be parented in the newly-created category. It doesn't seem to me to be a good idea to create that sort of maintenance headache. --
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Category:16th century in the Polish–Lithuanian union
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. It sounds as if the sub-categories should be nominated for renaming to Poland. I looked for the former member of
Category:1565 establishments in the Polish–Lithuanian union and found that Marcocapelle had already moved that one to 1560s in Poland.
[1] Only two member pages remain (
Cisna and
Radomyśl nad Sanem), with a superstructure of about 8 categories. –
FayenaticLondon 22:10, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Not a state, but a concept. Content should be categorized into "in Poland" and "in Lithuania".
Zoupan 13:46, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Support provided that child categories are going to be included in the nomination. The content of the category covers the period before the establishment of the
Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1569.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:26, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment if split as suggested by nom, would we be using the contemporary borders or those at the time of the event (sometime in the 16th century for these articles)?
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 19:40, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Split - Poland and Lithuania underwent a union of the crowns. The flaw in this category is that Poland-Lithuania did not exist before 1569. Answer -- We should be using the boundaries of the time, as to whether a place (when founded for establishment categories) was in Poland or in Lithuania. The location and extent of Poland has varied at differnet periods: categories should reflect the political geography of that time.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:08, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment, no need to split, all four articles were Polish at the time (currently either in Poland or in Ukraine). So it should be merged to
Category:16th century in Poland.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Canadian pop-folk singers
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Nominator's rationale: Our article about
pop-folk identifies it as a specifically
Balkan and
Eastern European type of music not interchangeable with Western "folk-pop" — but the articles filed here so far are
Rose Cousins,
Joni Mitchell and
Janet Panic, meaning that the intended scope here is quite obviously the latter genre rather than the former. Yes, I can quite easily populate it over
WP:SMALLCAT if it's renamed — Jenn Grant Tanya Davis Amelia Curran Tony Dekker yadda yadda — so let's not get sidetracked with "delete because SMALLCAT" arguments.
Bearcat (
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The problem is that folk rock and folk pop are two very different things; while I'll grant that Joni Mitchell could be considered to be both, Rose Cousins most certainly can't be considered rock in any way, but is classified as folk pop. Folk-pop is a
real recognized genre of music, distinct from both Balkan pop-folk and Byrdsian folk-rock, despite our failure to have an article about it yet — it's people like
Kate and Anna McGarrigle,
Patty Griffin,
Jenn Grant,
Oh Pep!, the less rock-oriented parts of the
Fleetwood Mac catalogue, and on and so forth. The other problem, further, being that if this is simply deleted, all that's going to happen is that the same people who thought "pop-folk" was the same thing as "folk-pop" are just going to readd Rose Cousins and Joni Mitchell and Janet Panic (and Jenn Grant and Amelia Curran) back to the original
Category:Pop-folk singers again — because folk-pop is a real thing, and our lack of covering it properly is the reason why the error happened in the first place.
Bearcat (
talk) 00:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)reply
User:Bearcat, I have the impression that you know what you are talking about, but note that it is a niche topic and I, for example, am unfamiliar with everything you are saying, though I do understand that pop≠rock. Why pop-folk ≠ folk-pop, I don't get. Is this a need for
Wikipedia:Category intersection, involving
Category:Folk musicCategory:Popular music, or is folk-pop not approximated by the interection of folk and pop? I would be very very happy to support your proposal if you wrote a stub at
Folk pop (the current redirect is improper as the term is not mentioned at the target), linked it from
Folk rock, and added it to
Category:Folk music genres. Note that I belong to
Category:Wikipedian Hyphen Luddites and wish that someone else would sort out the hyphenation. --
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Category:The Flowers of Hell
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Nominator's rationale:Eponymous category for a band without the volume of spinoff content needed to support one. The only article filed here is the eponym itself, with the category contents otherwise limited to the album cover images -- but that's not an appropriate use for a category of this type, as the album covers aren't supposed to be filed in articlespace categories. No prejudice against the creation of a new
Category:The Flowers of Hell albums category for the albums' articles, but even that wouldn't be enough by itself to justify an eponymous category for the band above it. These are only created when there's a lot of spinoff content to categorize (e.g.
Category:The Beatles, where there are dozens of supplementary articles about tribute albums and books and television documentaries and concert tours and Brian Epsteins and Yoko Onos and George Martins and other assorted things that need Beatle-related categorization outside of the standard schemes) — they are not created when all there is to file in them is the band's eponym and an albums category.
Bearcat (
talk) 02:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete – per exemplary rationale. I have created an albums category, but as the nom says there seems no scope for other subcats (songs, members, tours etc).
Oculi (
talk) 11:26, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom, numerous precedent, and
WP:OCEPON. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:48, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Quebec film directors
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Nominator's rationale: As with
Category:American film directors by state, when we're subcategorizing a national film directors category by state or province the naming convention should be "Film directors from Province" rather than "Province film directors" -- the latter word order is more appropriately reserved for by-country categories. By the same token, the equivalent categories for other occupations are at, frex,
Category:Musicians from Quebec and
Category:Writers from Quebec, rather than "Quebec musicians" or "Quebec writers".
Bearcat (
talk) 01:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Rename. Not following a naming convention is almost never a good thing (I see no reason to exempt this one from the convention), and anyway "Quebec" is a noun, not an adjective as is necessary in this setting. You'd need to have this at
Category:Québécois film directors if you wanted to ignore the convention, and even that would risk getting biographies of non-Québécois people who have directed films set in the province.
Nyttend (
talk) 01:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom; unambiguous title clarifies what is or should be therein.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 19:37, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Rename per name to make it clear that Quebec is simply a country subdivision, not a separate state.
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Category:Jews in heavy metal
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The result of the discussion was:Rename per nominator. There was some support for deletion, but no justification was offered for singling out this one subcategory of
Category:Jewish musicians by genre. If editors want to pursue that idea, feel free to open a group nomination of
Category:Jewish musicians by genre and its sub-categories. --
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Nominator's rationale: This category accidentally got moved to the proposed title earlier today, and then it was put back at the mover's request. However, I think we would have been better off had the mover not requested un-moving — both for religions and for ethnicities, categories typically are of the form "[demonym adjective form] [nouns]". I don't remember ever encountering "[demonym noun form] in [field]" before. Note that there's also a
Category:Jews in punk rock, but I didn't nominate it because I don't know what you call people in punk rock: "punk rock musicians" maybe, but I wanted to stay with this one because it already had a good possible title. If you can suggest a better name, please nominate it.
Nyttend (
talk) 00:17, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete do we really need to divvy up heavy metal musicians by religion or ethnicity? Is there some notable affinity between these two disparate categories to be lumped together here. Is there an article
Jews in heavy metal or such? If not, probably violates
WP:OCEGRS.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 02:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I've always found OCEGRS to be a confusing, and often found it to be an inconsistent, set of rules, so I've stayed out of that kind of thing, and I'd like it to be clear that I have no opinion on keep/delete. If your position is rejected, the category should be renamed, but I won't oppose your suggestion or argue if it succeeds.
Nyttend (
talk) 03:25, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete or Rename I primarily agree with
Carlossuarez46. Inclusion or non-inclusion in this category could easily be controversial. I also don't really see the significance of the intersection between the two. If it does remain, I think
Nyttend's proposal is better than the current name.
Sperril (
talk) 06:50, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Neutral. I requested the revert of my own move because I thought I had made an error, never thought that incidentally it was an appropriate moving. I don't comment on the opportunity (or lack of) of categorizing a musician by religion/culture. If that is done, though, at least the category name should be consistent with the scheme. -- SERGIOaka the Black Cat 11:17, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: I can't see any distinction between them.
Lophotrochozoa (
talk) 23:16, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep From reading the
Anthrozoology article and it's links, anthrozoology seems to be a particular theoretical perspective/research agenda. I'd never heard of it before, but I am pretty familiar with
ethnozoology. Anthrozoology seems to focus more on domesticated animals (especially pets) and western culture. Ethnozoology focuses more on wild animals and non-western cultures; ethnozoological studies I'm familiar with looked at how birds are classified in a particular culture or identified archeological remains of wild animals hunted for food. Neither ethnozoology nor anthrozoology are appropriate as catch all terms for the relationship between humans and animals. The Anthrozoology category is pretty messy though and has stuff that would be better suited to the Animals and humans category.
Plantdrew (
talk) 22:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Should we write a category description to prevent misuse?
Lophotrochozoa (
talk) 19:08, 26 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Reverse merge, too little of the content of the target category seems to fit
Anthrozoology. If kept, purge heavily.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 20:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Animals by classification
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Just delete the 2 daughter categories are already in granddaughter categories of the target anyway, and we don't need to have them (also) a level up which merger would do. E.g., invertebrates by classification should be under invertebrates which is under animal taxonomy, not having the two as sisters both under animal taxonomy.
Carlossuarez46 (
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Category:Eastern Orthodox education
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. –
FayenaticLondon 21:50, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:delete, only contains one child category and no articles. There is no need to upmerge because the content is already somewhere else in the Eastern Orthodox tree (namely in
Category:Eastern Orthodox organizations.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:47, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Support but without prejudice as to its later creation should volumes increase.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 13:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep.
Category:Christian education contains a series of other categories of the form "FooDEnomination education". This seems to be a good idea, worth expanding and developing. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 04:57, 11 February 2017 (UTC)reply
@
Marcocapelle: I don't think it helps navigation to prune a part of the tree like that. If this deletion proceeds, then a reader looking at
Category:Christian education will see that we have subcats for some denominations but not others, and could reasonably conclude that we don't have any content for the other denominations. That doesn't help. Plus, if an editor does create an article which would fit directly into
Category:Eastern Orthodox education, then then they may now how to create it, but they are much less likely to know that there are categories further down tree which should be parented in the newly-created category. It doesn't seem to me to be a good idea to create that sort of maintenance headache. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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Category:16th century in the Polish–Lithuanian union
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. It sounds as if the sub-categories should be nominated for renaming to Poland. I looked for the former member of
Category:1565 establishments in the Polish–Lithuanian union and found that Marcocapelle had already moved that one to 1560s in Poland.
[1] Only two member pages remain (
Cisna and
Radomyśl nad Sanem), with a superstructure of about 8 categories. –
FayenaticLondon 22:10, 12 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Not a state, but a concept. Content should be categorized into "in Poland" and "in Lithuania".
Zoupan 13:46, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Support provided that child categories are going to be included in the nomination. The content of the category covers the period before the establishment of the
Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1569.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:26, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment if split as suggested by nom, would we be using the contemporary borders or those at the time of the event (sometime in the 16th century for these articles)?
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 19:40, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Split - Poland and Lithuania underwent a union of the crowns. The flaw in this category is that Poland-Lithuania did not exist before 1569. Answer -- We should be using the boundaries of the time, as to whether a place (when founded for establishment categories) was in Poland or in Lithuania. The location and extent of Poland has varied at differnet periods: categories should reflect the political geography of that time.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 17:08, 29 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment, no need to split, all four articles were Polish at the time (currently either in Poland or in Ukraine). So it should be merged to
Category:16th century in Poland.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 22:41, 8 February 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Canadian pop-folk singers
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Nominator's rationale: Our article about
pop-folk identifies it as a specifically
Balkan and
Eastern European type of music not interchangeable with Western "folk-pop" — but the articles filed here so far are
Rose Cousins,
Joni Mitchell and
Janet Panic, meaning that the intended scope here is quite obviously the latter genre rather than the former. Yes, I can quite easily populate it over
WP:SMALLCAT if it's renamed — Jenn Grant Tanya Davis Amelia Curran Tony Dekker yadda yadda — so let's not get sidetracked with "delete because SMALLCAT" arguments.
Bearcat (
talk) 03:25, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
The problem is that folk rock and folk pop are two very different things; while I'll grant that Joni Mitchell could be considered to be both, Rose Cousins most certainly can't be considered rock in any way, but is classified as folk pop. Folk-pop is a
real recognized genre of music, distinct from both Balkan pop-folk and Byrdsian folk-rock, despite our failure to have an article about it yet — it's people like
Kate and Anna McGarrigle,
Patty Griffin,
Jenn Grant,
Oh Pep!, the less rock-oriented parts of the
Fleetwood Mac catalogue, and on and so forth. The other problem, further, being that if this is simply deleted, all that's going to happen is that the same people who thought "pop-folk" was the same thing as "folk-pop" are just going to readd Rose Cousins and Joni Mitchell and Janet Panic (and Jenn Grant and Amelia Curran) back to the original
Category:Pop-folk singers again — because folk-pop is a real thing, and our lack of covering it properly is the reason why the error happened in the first place.
Bearcat (
talk) 00:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)reply
User:Bearcat, I have the impression that you know what you are talking about, but note that it is a niche topic and I, for example, am unfamiliar with everything you are saying, though I do understand that pop≠rock. Why pop-folk ≠ folk-pop, I don't get. Is this a need for
Wikipedia:Category intersection, involving
Category:Folk musicCategory:Popular music, or is folk-pop not approximated by the interection of folk and pop? I would be very very happy to support your proposal if you wrote a stub at
Folk pop (the current redirect is improper as the term is not mentioned at the target), linked it from
Folk rock, and added it to
Category:Folk music genres. Note that I belong to
Category:Wikipedian Hyphen Luddites and wish that someone else would sort out the hyphenation. --
SmokeyJoe (
talk) 00:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:The Flowers of Hell
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Nominator's rationale:Eponymous category for a band without the volume of spinoff content needed to support one. The only article filed here is the eponym itself, with the category contents otherwise limited to the album cover images -- but that's not an appropriate use for a category of this type, as the album covers aren't supposed to be filed in articlespace categories. No prejudice against the creation of a new
Category:The Flowers of Hell albums category for the albums' articles, but even that wouldn't be enough by itself to justify an eponymous category for the band above it. These are only created when there's a lot of spinoff content to categorize (e.g.
Category:The Beatles, where there are dozens of supplementary articles about tribute albums and books and television documentaries and concert tours and Brian Epsteins and Yoko Onos and George Martins and other assorted things that need Beatle-related categorization outside of the standard schemes) — they are not created when all there is to file in them is the band's eponym and an albums category.
Bearcat (
talk) 02:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete – per exemplary rationale. I have created an albums category, but as the nom says there seems no scope for other subcats (songs, members, tours etc).
Oculi (
talk) 11:26, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom, numerous precedent, and
WP:OCEPON. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:48, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Quebec film directors
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Nominator's rationale: As with
Category:American film directors by state, when we're subcategorizing a national film directors category by state or province the naming convention should be "Film directors from Province" rather than "Province film directors" -- the latter word order is more appropriately reserved for by-country categories. By the same token, the equivalent categories for other occupations are at, frex,
Category:Musicians from Quebec and
Category:Writers from Quebec, rather than "Quebec musicians" or "Quebec writers".
Bearcat (
talk) 01:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Rename. Not following a naming convention is almost never a good thing (I see no reason to exempt this one from the convention), and anyway "Quebec" is a noun, not an adjective as is necessary in this setting. You'd need to have this at
Category:Québécois film directors if you wanted to ignore the convention, and even that would risk getting biographies of non-Québécois people who have directed films set in the province.
Nyttend (
talk) 01:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom; unambiguous title clarifies what is or should be therein.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 19:37, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Rename per name to make it clear that Quebec is simply a country subdivision, not a separate state.
Dimadick (
talk) 18:16, 3 February 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Jews in heavy metal
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The result of the discussion was:Rename per nominator. There was some support for deletion, but no justification was offered for singling out this one subcategory of
Category:Jewish musicians by genre. If editors want to pursue that idea, feel free to open a group nomination of
Category:Jewish musicians by genre and its sub-categories. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 05:06, 11 February 2017 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: This category accidentally got moved to the proposed title earlier today, and then it was put back at the mover's request. However, I think we would have been better off had the mover not requested un-moving — both for religions and for ethnicities, categories typically are of the form "[demonym adjective form] [nouns]". I don't remember ever encountering "[demonym noun form] in [field]" before. Note that there's also a
Category:Jews in punk rock, but I didn't nominate it because I don't know what you call people in punk rock: "punk rock musicians" maybe, but I wanted to stay with this one because it already had a good possible title. If you can suggest a better name, please nominate it.
Nyttend (
talk) 00:17, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete do we really need to divvy up heavy metal musicians by religion or ethnicity? Is there some notable affinity between these two disparate categories to be lumped together here. Is there an article
Jews in heavy metal or such? If not, probably violates
WP:OCEGRS.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 02:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
I've always found OCEGRS to be a confusing, and often found it to be an inconsistent, set of rules, so I've stayed out of that kind of thing, and I'd like it to be clear that I have no opinion on keep/delete. If your position is rejected, the category should be renamed, but I won't oppose your suggestion or argue if it succeeds.
Nyttend (
talk) 03:25, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete or Rename I primarily agree with
Carlossuarez46. Inclusion or non-inclusion in this category could easily be controversial. I also don't really see the significance of the intersection between the two. If it does remain, I think
Nyttend's proposal is better than the current name.
Sperril (
talk) 06:50, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Neutral. I requested the revert of my own move because I thought I had made an error, never thought that incidentally it was an appropriate moving. I don't comment on the opportunity (or lack of) of categorizing a musician by religion/culture. If that is done, though, at least the category name should be consistent with the scheme. -- SERGIOaka the Black Cat 11:17, 24 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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