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The result of the discussion was:delete as empty. This is without prejudice to creation of a differently named category that serves the same purpose. If such a category is created, it could be nominated for discussion.Good Ol’factory(talk) 02:03, 29 February 2016 (UTC)reply
comment WP does not seem to have any categories named
Victims .... Is there some name that is less POV?
Hmains (
talk) 18:42, 20 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment, meanwhile the category is empty.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Not that big of a surprise. The category was nominated for deletion on the very day of its creation, and nobody has bothered to populate it.
Dimadick (
talk) 08:38, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment User:Hmains has made an error in searches. We do have a
Category:Victims with 21 subcategories. However it focuses on victims of crime, accident, and persecutions rather than wars. Deaths in war are covered by the category
Category:War casualties by war and its subcategories. However it is currently rather underpopulated.
Dimadick (
talk) 08:45, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Concept automobiles
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The result of the discussion was:rename using "concept cars". It is undoubtedly the case that "concept car" is the
WP:COMMONNAME of this broad category (see
Ngram and
search trends, for instance). A case was made that "concept car" is not correct when applied to trucks, vans, etc. In terms of policy, this is essentially a claim that "concept car" is, in fact, not the common name when applied to trucks, vans, etc. No data was provided to back this up, and it appears that even the examples of not-a-car concept vehicles provided in this discussion use "car" as the common name. For instance, compare
this to
this. (
non-admin closure) ~ RobTalk 20:00, 29 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Rename. The main article is
Concept car and has been at that name for years, after a brief undiscussed move to
concept vehicle. –
FayenaticLondon 21:44, 18 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Note: the remaining sub-cats mainly use "concept vehicles", and can be speedily renamed if this is approved. –
FayenaticLondon 21:55, 18 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Alternate Rename to use "vehicles". Not all of these are cars/automobiles: we have a
truck, a
van and a
whatever in the nomination and the other categories in this tree have more exceptions, mostly pickup trucks. Alternatively, we could purge these articles, but I think it makes more sense to use "Concept vehicles" by company.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:22, 19 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose not all of these are cars. (Jeep doesn't even make cars) --
70.51.46.39 (
talk) 07:20, 20 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Support alternative. "Concept vehicle" is mentioned as an alternative name in the
Concept car article, and it better covers the contents of this category. We may consider to have
Concept car no longer as the main article of the category.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 11:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Rename as proposed. The "car" in "
concept car" is used in the broad, generic sense, not in the specific sense that excludes trucks, vans, or jeeps. The proposal that we need to abandon use of the common name of the thing in the category names seems to me to be a bit overly pedantic. Categories are machetes, not scalpels.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 22:36, 15 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Note I tagged WikiProject Automobiles to see if we can't get some more editors to help us decided between the common name and the technical definition.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 14:20, 16 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment I think this boils down to another American English vs. British English conflict. In the US, "automobile" or "auto" can refer to a pickup truck, SUV, minivan, sedan, or coupe, while a "car" excludes trucks, SUVs, and vans. In the UK, "car" can include SUVs, pickup/light trucks, and passenger vans/MPVs (I'm in the US, so please correct me if I'm mistaken). In either region, "
vehicle" includes passenger autos, commercial vehicles (cargo vans, trailers, tractors, construction vehicles, etc.), motorcycles, and even ships and aircraft in a wider scope. So I don't think it should be renamed to "Concept vehicles". --
Vossanovao< 15:59, 16 May 2016 (UTC)reply
RFC
@
Zppix: If you want to have a closed discussion reviewed, an RFC is not the right procedure. Instead you should go to
WP:DRV.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 08:43, 5 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Note that another editor has removed the RFC template from here, quite right.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 22:49, 6 March 2016 (UTC)reply
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Basketball teams in Kosovo
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The result of the discussion was:upmerge articles only, then delete.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 22:05, 26 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Manual merge per nominator, merging the articles but not the sub-cats. –
FayenaticLondon 21:20, 18 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge - the potential of growth within the categories is disputable, but we can always recreated the categories later if necessary.--
Mondiad (
talk) 02:17, 19 February 2016 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was:delete as empty. This is without prejudice to creation of a differently named category that serves the same purpose. If such a category is created, it could be nominated for discussion.Good Ol’factory(talk) 02:03, 29 February 2016 (UTC)reply
comment WP does not seem to have any categories named
Victims .... Is there some name that is less POV?
Hmains (
talk) 18:42, 20 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment, meanwhile the category is empty.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Not that big of a surprise. The category was nominated for deletion on the very day of its creation, and nobody has bothered to populate it.
Dimadick (
talk) 08:38, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment User:Hmains has made an error in searches. We do have a
Category:Victims with 21 subcategories. However it focuses on victims of crime, accident, and persecutions rather than wars. Deaths in war are covered by the category
Category:War casualties by war and its subcategories. However it is currently rather underpopulated.
Dimadick (
talk) 08:45, 25 February 2016 (UTC)reply
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Category:Concept automobiles
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
talk page or in a
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The result of the discussion was:rename using "concept cars". It is undoubtedly the case that "concept car" is the
WP:COMMONNAME of this broad category (see
Ngram and
search trends, for instance). A case was made that "concept car" is not correct when applied to trucks, vans, etc. In terms of policy, this is essentially a claim that "concept car" is, in fact, not the common name when applied to trucks, vans, etc. No data was provided to back this up, and it appears that even the examples of not-a-car concept vehicles provided in this discussion use "car" as the common name. For instance, compare
this to
this. (
non-admin closure) ~ RobTalk 20:00, 29 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Rename. The main article is
Concept car and has been at that name for years, after a brief undiscussed move to
concept vehicle. –
FayenaticLondon 21:44, 18 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Note: the remaining sub-cats mainly use "concept vehicles", and can be speedily renamed if this is approved. –
FayenaticLondon 21:55, 18 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Alternate Rename to use "vehicles". Not all of these are cars/automobiles: we have a
truck, a
van and a
whatever in the nomination and the other categories in this tree have more exceptions, mostly pickup trucks. Alternatively, we could purge these articles, but I think it makes more sense to use "Concept vehicles" by company.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 01:22, 19 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose not all of these are cars. (Jeep doesn't even make cars) --
70.51.46.39 (
talk) 07:20, 20 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Support alternative. "Concept vehicle" is mentioned as an alternative name in the
Concept car article, and it better covers the contents of this category. We may consider to have
Concept car no longer as the main article of the category.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 11:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Rename as proposed. The "car" in "
concept car" is used in the broad, generic sense, not in the specific sense that excludes trucks, vans, or jeeps. The proposal that we need to abandon use of the common name of the thing in the category names seems to me to be a bit overly pedantic. Categories are machetes, not scalpels.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 22:36, 15 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Note I tagged WikiProject Automobiles to see if we can't get some more editors to help us decided between the common name and the technical definition.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 14:20, 16 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment I think this boils down to another American English vs. British English conflict. In the US, "automobile" or "auto" can refer to a pickup truck, SUV, minivan, sedan, or coupe, while a "car" excludes trucks, SUVs, and vans. In the UK, "car" can include SUVs, pickup/light trucks, and passenger vans/MPVs (I'm in the US, so please correct me if I'm mistaken). In either region, "
vehicle" includes passenger autos, commercial vehicles (cargo vans, trailers, tractors, construction vehicles, etc.), motorcycles, and even ships and aircraft in a wider scope. So I don't think it should be renamed to "Concept vehicles". --
Vossanovao< 15:59, 16 May 2016 (UTC)reply
RFC
@
Zppix: If you want to have a closed discussion reviewed, an RFC is not the right procedure. Instead you should go to
WP:DRV.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 08:43, 5 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Note that another editor has removed the RFC template from here, quite right.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 22:49, 6 March 2016 (UTC)reply
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Basketball teams in Kosovo
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The result of the discussion was:upmerge articles only, then delete.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 22:05, 26 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Manual merge per nominator, merging the articles but not the sub-cats. –
FayenaticLondon 21:20, 18 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge - the potential of growth within the categories is disputable, but we can always recreated the categories later if necessary.--
Mondiad (
talk) 02:17, 19 February 2016 (UTC)reply
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