June 1
Category:Female Christian clergy and religious
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Good Ol’factory
(talk) 00:42, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Propose upmerging Category:Female Christian clergy and religious to Category:Ordained Christian women
- Propose renaming Category:Ordained Christian women to Category:Female Christian clergy
- Propose taking out Category:Christian nuns from the new category Female Christian clergy
- Nominator's rationale: Ordained Christian women and its child cat Female Christian clergy and religious are a category within Category:Clergy. For consistency reasons, women who aren't clergy (i.e. nuns) should be taken out and the category can simply be named for 'clergy' (i.e. without 'religious').
It sounds a bit complicated, but it is in fact simplifying, because it saves one category and it results in a shorter and easier category name. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:59, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Query Wouldn't it be simpler to just delete Category:Female Christian clergy and religious and leave the other categories as they are? That would achieve the object of keeping the purity of Category:Clergy. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 21:29, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- This could be an alternative, though personally I'd prefer the name of Female Christian clergy, because the other child categories of Category:Clergy are also with 'clergy' in it. (Question on the side, if we would only delete Female Christian clergy and religious category, wouldn't we first have to manually upmerge the single articles that are currently in the latter, or is that done automatically too?) Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Rename as Category:Female Christian religious leaders. There is no need for a "clergy" layer. – Fayenatic L ondon 09:53, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Don't agree to the latter suggestion. The general categorization structure is currently different than that, there is:
So the categorization presumes that clergy are (as such) not religious leaders. This makes sense if you take into consideration that, for example in the Catholic Church, priests are clergy while popes are religious leaders. So this distinction between clergy and religious leaders would imply that we would also have female clergy and female religious leaders next to other.
BUT this structure also shows an immediate flaw in the current categorization, since Ordained Christian women are now a child of (general) Clergy! Instead there should be 'Female clergy' as a child of 'Clergy' and 'Female Christian clergy' as a child of 'Christian clergy'.
That means that my proposal of June 1st is not good enough and therefore I withdraw it.
Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:09, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Hierarchs
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Christian religious leaders. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:17, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
:* Propose upmerging
Category:Hierarchs to
Category:Religious leaders
Nominator's rationale: The two categories seem to serve the same purpose. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:34, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Even better:
- Propose merging Category:Hierarchs to Category:Christian religious leaders
- Nominator's rationale: The two categories seem to serve the same purpose + this category only contains Christian subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
There's only 6 Buddhist single articles that need to be moved to Buddhist religious leaders, that can be done manually. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:15, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Support Hierarch is just a synonym for religious leader. It is not an office in itself. It's not a term that would be employed within Buddhism.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 21:34, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Since there haven't been any Buddhist reactions here, I'll recategorize the Buddhist articles already, so that merging can take place easily. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:20, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Andover, Vermont
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:09, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small town category with just two entries, one of which is the town. The subcategory is up for merging, and with only three entries, a merge is likely. That leaves this category with just two pages. Not enough. ...William 17:22, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Founders of new religious movements
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- The result of the discussion was: reverse merge to older category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:15, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The two categories have exactly the same intention. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:52, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Merge at Category:Founders of new religious movements, that being the older of the two (by about three months), unless an established naming convention exists that prefers Category:New religious movement founders. I first became aware of the former category when it appeared on this report about four days after it was created. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 18:53, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Either name is fine with me. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:32, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 21:35, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Sugar Production in the Philippines
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: These two categories currently contain just one article. If kept these should be renamed to correct capitalization. DexDor ( talk) 16:00, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:WikiProject Sailor Moon
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WikiProject Sailor Moon was recently absorbed into WP:ANIME per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga#Closing.2Fmerging_Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sailor_Moon. However, there were categories that were not adequately moved. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 11:23, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Bajofondo
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Too little content: subcats are interlinked and so is main article. This serves no purpose in navigation. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 07:43, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:DC Cinematic Universe films
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:08, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category of an event that is not yet fully formed. Kailash29792 ( talk) 02:09, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: Only one film was actually released, a lot of things can go wrong before DC can make something similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and we don't know in advance if they will be able to do it. For instance, Green Lantern was a big failure. Cambalachero ( talk) 13:12, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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June 1
Category:Female Christian clergy and religious
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- The result of the discussion was: administrative close: appears to have been withdrawn in favour of
this discussion.
Good Ol’factory
(talk) 00:42, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Propose upmerging Category:Female Christian clergy and religious to Category:Ordained Christian women
- Propose renaming Category:Ordained Christian women to Category:Female Christian clergy
- Propose taking out Category:Christian nuns from the new category Female Christian clergy
- Nominator's rationale: Ordained Christian women and its child cat Female Christian clergy and religious are a category within Category:Clergy. For consistency reasons, women who aren't clergy (i.e. nuns) should be taken out and the category can simply be named for 'clergy' (i.e. without 'religious').
It sounds a bit complicated, but it is in fact simplifying, because it saves one category and it results in a shorter and easier category name. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:59, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Query Wouldn't it be simpler to just delete Category:Female Christian clergy and religious and leave the other categories as they are? That would achieve the object of keeping the purity of Category:Clergy. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 21:29, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- This could be an alternative, though personally I'd prefer the name of Female Christian clergy, because the other child categories of Category:Clergy are also with 'clergy' in it. (Question on the side, if we would only delete Female Christian clergy and religious category, wouldn't we first have to manually upmerge the single articles that are currently in the latter, or is that done automatically too?) Marcocapelle ( talk) 05:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Rename as Category:Female Christian religious leaders. There is no need for a "clergy" layer. – Fayenatic L ondon 09:53, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Don't agree to the latter suggestion. The general categorization structure is currently different than that, there is:
So the categorization presumes that clergy are (as such) not religious leaders. This makes sense if you take into consideration that, for example in the Catholic Church, priests are clergy while popes are religious leaders. So this distinction between clergy and religious leaders would imply that we would also have female clergy and female religious leaders next to other.
BUT this structure also shows an immediate flaw in the current categorization, since Ordained Christian women are now a child of (general) Clergy! Instead there should be 'Female clergy' as a child of 'Clergy' and 'Female Christian clergy' as a child of 'Christian clergy'.
That means that my proposal of June 1st is not good enough and therefore I withdraw it.
Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:09, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Hierarchs
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Christian religious leaders. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:17, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
:* Propose upmerging
Category:Hierarchs to
Category:Religious leaders
Nominator's rationale: The two categories seem to serve the same purpose. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:34, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Even better:
- Propose merging Category:Hierarchs to Category:Christian religious leaders
- Nominator's rationale: The two categories seem to serve the same purpose + this category only contains Christian subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
There's only 6 Buddhist single articles that need to be moved to Buddhist religious leaders, that can be done manually. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:15, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Support Hierarch is just a synonym for religious leader. It is not an office in itself. It's not a term that would be employed within Buddhism.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 21:34, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Since there haven't been any Buddhist reactions here, I'll recategorize the Buddhist articles already, so that merging can take place easily. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:20, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Andover, Vermont
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:09, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small town category with just two entries, one of which is the town. The subcategory is up for merging, and with only three entries, a merge is likely. That leaves this category with just two pages. Not enough. ...William 17:22, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Founders of new religious movements
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- The result of the discussion was: reverse merge to older category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:15, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The two categories have exactly the same intention. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:52, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Merge at Category:Founders of new religious movements, that being the older of the two (by about three months), unless an established naming convention exists that prefers Category:New religious movement founders. I first became aware of the former category when it appeared on this report about four days after it was created. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 18:53, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Either name is fine with me. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:32, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 21:35, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Sugar Production in the Philippines
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: These two categories currently contain just one article. If kept these should be renamed to correct capitalization. DexDor ( talk) 16:00, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:WikiProject Sailor Moon
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WikiProject Sailor Moon was recently absorbed into WP:ANIME per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga#Closing.2Fmerging_Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sailor_Moon. However, there were categories that were not adequately moved. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 11:23, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:Bajofondo
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Too little content: subcats are interlinked and so is main article. This serves no purpose in navigation. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 07:43, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
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Category:DC Cinematic Universe films
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:08, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Category of an event that is not yet fully formed. Kailash29792 ( talk) 02:09, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: Only one film was actually released, a lot of things can go wrong before DC can make something similar to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and we don't know in advance if they will be able to do it. For instance, Green Lantern was a big failure. Cambalachero ( talk) 13:12, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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