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The result was No consensus.
Prodegotalk 18:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
All of these are routes in Florida.
Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Roads and streets is the page discussing that type of thing, but since these aren't interstate highways, my guess is that they'd be similar to local streets in terms of notability and they don't have any particular historical significance that's asserted in the articles.
ColourBurst 17:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep - The precedent has been set before. Route and Interstates are definitely notable. Please view
Garden State Parkway and
New Jersey Turnpike both of these are notable roads that exist only in New Jersey. Also there is no consensus on the Deletion Policy for Roads and Streets.
Valoemtalk 18:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment I'm not sure about either of those being precedent as they're well known outside of their locales. Also, some of the roads on the list are nonexistent - in particular route 444 was proposed but never made into a road, and route 3B and 44B was renamed. --
ColourBurst 19:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment I agree with ColourBurst's assessment that those two highways are not comparable to these up for deletion. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 21:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Either keep or merge with the corresponding county/city articles, for the reasons given in my
WP:LOCAL proposal.
JYolkowski //
talk 19:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete these roads aren't notable --
RMHED 19:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment The result of this debate could establish a major precedent, considering hundreds of articles regarding state routes of limited notability have been created. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 21:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete. It looks like most of these roads are county roads and the rest were roads that were never built. In either case, I would expect a much higher level of notability to need an article then that of state highways, given the tens of thousands of county roads and proposed, but never built, roads.
BryanG(talk) 04:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Neutral per SPUI's comments. And thats why I called in the experts...
BryanG(talk) 05:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
In their current form, these articles aren't very useful - thus a deletion would not be setting a precedent. These are mostly if not all "notable" roads. In Florida, most numbered county roads were state roads until being turned over to the counties in the 1980s. In any case, "non-notability" is not a reason to delete, but to merge. --
SPUI (
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C) 05:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete, none of these roads on its own is notable, the information is best handled elsewhere.Neutral after checking Rschen7754's link.
Andrew Levine 10:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment, The majority of these are county roads, (the article titles are misnamed as well). Any numbered road is notable in my book, though they probably lack the information to justify their own articles. These should probably be merged or at least renamed (See
County Road 0342 (Leon County, Florida) for a better naming convention). --
Holderca1 16:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep all of the roads which have been built, no comment on those which have not.
Yamaguchi先生 19:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
delete all pretty pointless list, not part of any global picture. Looking at a map would give instant/greater satisfaction, better information.
Ohconfucius 09:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Not familiar with Florida's routes, but I think it should be put in a single article (instead of numerous short pages) presenting the start and end of the road plus the total length and possibly cities or towns along it (if any)--
JForget 00:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete Non-notable local roads for the most part (or at least the random 6 I looked at). One or two sentence articles. BTW the New Jersey Turnpike and the Parkway are very well known roads, turn up in fiction, and are therefore notable. No comparison with this lot.--
Michael Johnson 03:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was No consensus.
Prodegotalk 18:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)reply
All of these are routes in Florida.
Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Roads and streets is the page discussing that type of thing, but since these aren't interstate highways, my guess is that they'd be similar to local streets in terms of notability and they don't have any particular historical significance that's asserted in the articles.
ColourBurst 17:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep - The precedent has been set before. Route and Interstates are definitely notable. Please view
Garden State Parkway and
New Jersey Turnpike both of these are notable roads that exist only in New Jersey. Also there is no consensus on the Deletion Policy for Roads and Streets.
Valoemtalk 18:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment I'm not sure about either of those being precedent as they're well known outside of their locales. Also, some of the roads on the list are nonexistent - in particular route 444 was proposed but never made into a road, and route 3B and 44B was renamed. --
ColourBurst 19:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment I agree with ColourBurst's assessment that those two highways are not comparable to these up for deletion. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 21:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Either keep or merge with the corresponding county/city articles, for the reasons given in my
WP:LOCAL proposal.
JYolkowski //
talk 19:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete these roads aren't notable --
RMHED 19:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment The result of this debate could establish a major precedent, considering hundreds of articles regarding state routes of limited notability have been created. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 21:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete. It looks like most of these roads are county roads and the rest were roads that were never built. In either case, I would expect a much higher level of notability to need an article then that of state highways, given the tens of thousands of county roads and proposed, but never built, roads.
BryanG(talk) 04:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Neutral per SPUI's comments. And thats why I called in the experts...
BryanG(talk) 05:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
In their current form, these articles aren't very useful - thus a deletion would not be setting a precedent. These are mostly if not all "notable" roads. In Florida, most numbered county roads were state roads until being turned over to the counties in the 1980s. In any case, "non-notability" is not a reason to delete, but to merge. --
SPUI (
T -
C) 05:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete, none of these roads on its own is notable, the information is best handled elsewhere.Neutral after checking Rschen7754's link.
Andrew Levine 10:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment, The majority of these are county roads, (the article titles are misnamed as well). Any numbered road is notable in my book, though they probably lack the information to justify their own articles. These should probably be merged or at least renamed (See
County Road 0342 (Leon County, Florida) for a better naming convention). --
Holderca1 16:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep all of the roads which have been built, no comment on those which have not.
Yamaguchi先生 19:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)reply
delete all pretty pointless list, not part of any global picture. Looking at a map would give instant/greater satisfaction, better information.
Ohconfucius 09:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Not familiar with Florida's routes, but I think it should be put in a single article (instead of numerous short pages) presenting the start and end of the road plus the total length and possibly cities or towns along it (if any)--
JForget 00:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)reply
Delete Non-notable local roads for the most part (or at least the random 6 I looked at). One or two sentence articles. BTW the New Jersey Turnpike and the Parkway are very well known roads, turn up in fiction, and are therefore notable. No comparison with this lot.--
Michael Johnson 03:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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