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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 08:14, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Philippine School Sultanate of Oman
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Was deprodded without rationale or improvement. Wholly uncited original research. A bit of the promotional material was deleted back in November, but then more was added after that. Way too much commentary and NPOV material. Onel5969 TT me 11:31, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 04:33, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 04:33, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Delete and start over.Comment. This might be notable (and perhaps unique) as a Filipino school in Oman, but the article needs to state its sources. That's a lot of text with not a single citation. I think it's up to JCGDIMAIWAT (and anyone who wants to help) to find references, otherwise it must be deleted by WP policy WP:OR.My delete vote is becauseit's been over a week with no progress on WP:V. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 04:59, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 05:05, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep as a secondary school per longstanding consensus and precedent. Does have a source. Quality of the article is irrelevant to notability. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 11:41, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- What is this "source"? It seems to me that the article needs to be completely rewritten with "reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented" per
WP:OR. This requires someone willing to expend the time and effort. I looked for info online, found very little, so more research is required for
WP:V. Verifiability doesn't merely mean that the school probably exists, it "means that other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source." As is, the article fails core content policies. I've added the references that I found, but I can't tell if the school is notable with this small amount of verifiable information.
Jack N. Stock (
talk) 04:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- AfD is not cleanup! We do not bring articles here if they need to be rewritten, only if they are not on notable topics. As for sourcing, the school's website is a source, so claiming it is unsourced is completely untrue. It may be poorly sourced, but that is not the same thing. There is obviously enough here for a stub, even if the rest of the article needs to be deleted. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 09:58, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- What is this "source"? It seems to me that the article needs to be completely rewritten with "reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented" per
WP:OR. This requires someone willing to expend the time and effort. I looked for info online, found very little, so more research is required for
WP:V. Verifiability doesn't merely mean that the school probably exists, it "means that other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source." As is, the article fails core content policies. I've added the references that I found, but I can't tell if the school is notable with this small amount of verifiable information.
Jack N. Stock (
talk) 04:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as completely unsourced. If someone wants to put the work in and can demonstrate that this school has been the subject of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, then I could support recreation, but this isn't the place for original research. Cordless Larry ( talk) 12:51, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Comment. I cited some of the information, and removed a section that seemed entirely unverifiable and non-notable original research. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 03:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. afairly good article , with enough sources to show both existence and importance. We almost always keep secondary schools with a real existence, and there is no reason why this one should be an exception DGG ( talk ) 18:05, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 01:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 01:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Caution and comment: please note that Google warns that the school website address listed in the article has been hacked. If the article is kept (as it probably should be), appropriate edits should be made. Sources about this school can be found on HighBeam (which collects some years of the Times of Oman and some other
UAEregional newspapers) and GNews. "Philippine School celebrates 20th anniversary in style" has substantial content about the school's history and is already cited. Other news coverage more typical for high schools includes "Philippine School Oman Girls Clinch Muscat Secondary Schools League Volleyball Title", "His Majesty Sultan Qaboos' Official Website in Filipino", "‘I Love the Sultan Campaign’ at Philippine School in Oman", etc.-- Arxiloxos ( talk) 15:37, 29 March 2017 (UTC) - Keep per the sources found by Arxiloxos. Clearly meets GNG whatever your opinion of secondary schools is. TonyBallioni ( talk) 16:17, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 08:14, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Philippine School Sultanate of Oman
- Philippine School Sultanate of Oman ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Was deprodded without rationale or improvement. Wholly uncited original research. A bit of the promotional material was deleted back in November, but then more was added after that. Way too much commentary and NPOV material. Onel5969 TT me 11:31, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 04:33, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 04:33, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Delete and start over.Comment. This might be notable (and perhaps unique) as a Filipino school in Oman, but the article needs to state its sources. That's a lot of text with not a single citation. I think it's up to JCGDIMAIWAT (and anyone who wants to help) to find references, otherwise it must be deleted by WP policy WP:OR.My delete vote is becauseit's been over a week with no progress on WP:V. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 04:59, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 05:05, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep as a secondary school per longstanding consensus and precedent. Does have a source. Quality of the article is irrelevant to notability. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 11:41, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- What is this "source"? It seems to me that the article needs to be completely rewritten with "reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented" per
WP:OR. This requires someone willing to expend the time and effort. I looked for info online, found very little, so more research is required for
WP:V. Verifiability doesn't merely mean that the school probably exists, it "means that other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source." As is, the article fails core content policies. I've added the references that I found, but I can't tell if the school is notable with this small amount of verifiable information.
Jack N. Stock (
talk) 04:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- AfD is not cleanup! We do not bring articles here if they need to be rewritten, only if they are not on notable topics. As for sourcing, the school's website is a source, so claiming it is unsourced is completely untrue. It may be poorly sourced, but that is not the same thing. There is obviously enough here for a stub, even if the rest of the article needs to be deleted. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 09:58, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- What is this "source"? It seems to me that the article needs to be completely rewritten with "reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented" per
WP:OR. This requires someone willing to expend the time and effort. I looked for info online, found very little, so more research is required for
WP:V. Verifiability doesn't merely mean that the school probably exists, it "means that other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source." As is, the article fails core content policies. I've added the references that I found, but I can't tell if the school is notable with this small amount of verifiable information.
Jack N. Stock (
talk) 04:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as completely unsourced. If someone wants to put the work in and can demonstrate that this school has been the subject of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, then I could support recreation, but this isn't the place for original research. Cordless Larry ( talk) 12:51, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Comment. I cited some of the information, and removed a section that seemed entirely unverifiable and non-notable original research. Jack N. Stock ( talk) 03:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. afairly good article , with enough sources to show both existence and importance. We almost always keep secondary schools with a real existence, and there is no reason why this one should be an exception DGG ( talk ) 18:05, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 01:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh ( talk) 01:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Caution and comment: please note that Google warns that the school website address listed in the article has been hacked. If the article is kept (as it probably should be), appropriate edits should be made. Sources about this school can be found on HighBeam (which collects some years of the Times of Oman and some other
UAEregional newspapers) and GNews. "Philippine School celebrates 20th anniversary in style" has substantial content about the school's history and is already cited. Other news coverage more typical for high schools includes "Philippine School Oman Girls Clinch Muscat Secondary Schools League Volleyball Title", "His Majesty Sultan Qaboos' Official Website in Filipino", "‘I Love the Sultan Campaign’ at Philippine School in Oman", etc.-- Arxiloxos ( talk) 15:37, 29 March 2017 (UTC) - Keep per the sources found by Arxiloxos. Clearly meets GNG whatever your opinion of secondary schools is. TonyBallioni ( talk) 16:17, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.