The result was withdrawn; this was a bad decision based on a misreading. I will go with an RFC instead.— Ryulong ( 琉竜) 13:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC) reply
Six years ago, the page located at this title was about the animated series currently located at Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime). At some point, there was a discussion (I've not seen proof) that resulted in the anime getting a disambiguated page title and Neon Genesis Evangelion becoming a "franchise" page to cover all media relating to the anime.
A few days ago I proposed on WT:ANIME that the project coordinates a massive restructuring of the pages such that the current "franchise page" is merged into Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime) and that article is made into the primary topic (as well as some work on Neon Genesis Evangelion (manga)) as seen here. While some of the editors of the WikiProject agreed and thought it would be a good idea, a group of editors (including one who personally does not see eye to eye with me over a similar dispute on another article) have vociferously opposed as they feel the page has its necessity as the anime apparently does not qualify as primary topic anymore. Page view data shows that over the last 90 days this article had 368697 hits compared to the 318727 the "(anime)" page received in the same time period, suggesting that so many people just type in "Neon Genesis Evangelion" and then hop on over to the anime page in the dab link.
In addition, none of the sources in the article reference that the franchise is something that even exists. Yes, there are multiple media adaptations, but they are all derivations of the original television series and should be discussed within the context of that rather than having everything discussed separately. Franchise pages have their place when there are so many different things to discuss. This is barely the case with Evangelion, where the anime spawned everything that came after and everything that has been released is a derivation of the original TV series with slight changes to character interpretation or some events (the manga which has been published on and off for the past 25 years and technically before the anime and the recent film quadrilogy examples of such).
As this is such a high profile topic, I must emphasize that I acknowledge that "Neon Genesis Evangelion" is notable. That is not the reason for this AFD. This has to do with properly restructuring several articles when a WikiProject described by those who have opposed as " moribund" and " stagnant and decaying" will apparently not be able to coordinate proper work, despite the fact that several other editors agree with my proposal. The insular nature of this group simply means that nothing will properly get done, so the wider audience of articles for deletion is needed to gauge what should be done.
To summarize, the franchise/top level/topic level/whatever format currently used at Neon Genesis Evangelion does not work. Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime) should be at this title instead, and a bulk of the current article should be incorporated into the "(anime)" page instead of having a glorified disambiguation page. — Ryulong ( 琉竜) 06:34, 6 August 2013 (UTC) reply
The result was withdrawn; this was a bad decision based on a misreading. I will go with an RFC instead.— Ryulong ( 琉竜) 13:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC) reply
Six years ago, the page located at this title was about the animated series currently located at Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime). At some point, there was a discussion (I've not seen proof) that resulted in the anime getting a disambiguated page title and Neon Genesis Evangelion becoming a "franchise" page to cover all media relating to the anime.
A few days ago I proposed on WT:ANIME that the project coordinates a massive restructuring of the pages such that the current "franchise page" is merged into Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime) and that article is made into the primary topic (as well as some work on Neon Genesis Evangelion (manga)) as seen here. While some of the editors of the WikiProject agreed and thought it would be a good idea, a group of editors (including one who personally does not see eye to eye with me over a similar dispute on another article) have vociferously opposed as they feel the page has its necessity as the anime apparently does not qualify as primary topic anymore. Page view data shows that over the last 90 days this article had 368697 hits compared to the 318727 the "(anime)" page received in the same time period, suggesting that so many people just type in "Neon Genesis Evangelion" and then hop on over to the anime page in the dab link.
In addition, none of the sources in the article reference that the franchise is something that even exists. Yes, there are multiple media adaptations, but they are all derivations of the original television series and should be discussed within the context of that rather than having everything discussed separately. Franchise pages have their place when there are so many different things to discuss. This is barely the case with Evangelion, where the anime spawned everything that came after and everything that has been released is a derivation of the original TV series with slight changes to character interpretation or some events (the manga which has been published on and off for the past 25 years and technically before the anime and the recent film quadrilogy examples of such).
As this is such a high profile topic, I must emphasize that I acknowledge that "Neon Genesis Evangelion" is notable. That is not the reason for this AFD. This has to do with properly restructuring several articles when a WikiProject described by those who have opposed as " moribund" and " stagnant and decaying" will apparently not be able to coordinate proper work, despite the fact that several other editors agree with my proposal. The insular nature of this group simply means that nothing will properly get done, so the wider audience of articles for deletion is needed to gauge what should be done.
To summarize, the franchise/top level/topic level/whatever format currently used at Neon Genesis Evangelion does not work. Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime) should be at this title instead, and a bulk of the current article should be incorporated into the "(anime)" page instead of having a glorified disambiguation page. — Ryulong ( 琉竜) 06:34, 6 August 2013 (UTC) reply