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The result was delete. Unanimous. JBW ( talk) 21:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
List of songs about Lucknow
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Same reason as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about Ahmedabad. The list fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:LISTN and WP:OR. There is little to nothing worthwhile in this list, be it content or context (and not one single source). Geschichte ( talk) 09:32, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Lists, and Uttar Pradesh. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: This article was previously nominated for deletion as part of a bundle nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about Bangalore, which closed as keep on 24 February 2018. I quote a relevant interaction between @ RoySmith and Narky Blert:
*Keep all. I looked at one of these, List of songs about Lucknow, in detail. It looks like it meets WP:LISTN to me. LISTN says, it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources. Well, we've got a source, 10 Bollywood Songs That Has Captured Lucknow And Its Charm. That sure seems like it meets the LISTN requirement. I only looked at the others more briefly, but at first glance, they seem like they meet LISTN as well. Bundling all of these into a single AfD doesn't help, because perhaps some are notable and some are not. I would suggest keeping them all for now and allowing ( WP:NPASR) people to bring back specific ones that they really feel fail LISTN. That fact that the creator of this lists has subsequently been banned is immaterial. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:29, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- That means that both List of songs about Delhi and List of songs about Lucknow have independent sources which relate to those two lists as lists per se. The proposed multiple deletion is therefore unjustified. These lists need to be discussed individually.
- I agree that it's the content of the article which matters, even if it was posted by a banned user. Narky Blert ( talk) 01:26, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- The source in question (now a dead URL) was
removed by
GermanJoe in October 2018 with the edit summary:
rmv - not a reliable source
. IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 17:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. "List of songs about [X city]" articles should be evaluated on their own merits, and some such articles definitely have a claim to notability, for cities that have been the subject of several notable songs or songs by notable artists, and whose songs have been discussed as a set in independent, reliable sources. Like the nominator, I find that this list fails WP:LISTN and WP:OR. Any notable songs can be discussed in a "In popular culture" section or similar at Lucknow. IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 17:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting. I can't tell if IgnatiusofLondon is offering an opinion here (please BOLD) or just catching us up on the history here but since the article was part of a previous bundled nomination, it's not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)- One is a comment, one is a !vote :))
IgnatiusofLondon (he/him •
☎️) 14:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, IgnatiusofLondon. I misread your comments. Liz Read! Talk! 23:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- One is a comment, one is a !vote :))
IgnatiusofLondon (he/him •
☎️) 14:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As stated, not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist, seeking more opinions here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per IgnatiusofLondon Mach61 19:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Unanimous. JBW ( talk) 21:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
List of songs about Lucknow
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Same reason as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about Ahmedabad. The list fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:LISTN and WP:OR. There is little to nothing worthwhile in this list, be it content or context (and not one single source). Geschichte ( talk) 09:32, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Lists, and Uttar Pradesh. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: This article was previously nominated for deletion as part of a bundle nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about Bangalore, which closed as keep on 24 February 2018. I quote a relevant interaction between @ RoySmith and Narky Blert:
*Keep all. I looked at one of these, List of songs about Lucknow, in detail. It looks like it meets WP:LISTN to me. LISTN says, it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources. Well, we've got a source, 10 Bollywood Songs That Has Captured Lucknow And Its Charm. That sure seems like it meets the LISTN requirement. I only looked at the others more briefly, but at first glance, they seem like they meet LISTN as well. Bundling all of these into a single AfD doesn't help, because perhaps some are notable and some are not. I would suggest keeping them all for now and allowing ( WP:NPASR) people to bring back specific ones that they really feel fail LISTN. That fact that the creator of this lists has subsequently been banned is immaterial. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:29, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- That means that both List of songs about Delhi and List of songs about Lucknow have independent sources which relate to those two lists as lists per se. The proposed multiple deletion is therefore unjustified. These lists need to be discussed individually.
- I agree that it's the content of the article which matters, even if it was posted by a banned user. Narky Blert ( talk) 01:26, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- The source in question (now a dead URL) was
removed by
GermanJoe in October 2018 with the edit summary:
rmv - not a reliable source
. IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 17:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. "List of songs about [X city]" articles should be evaluated on their own merits, and some such articles definitely have a claim to notability, for cities that have been the subject of several notable songs or songs by notable artists, and whose songs have been discussed as a set in independent, reliable sources. Like the nominator, I find that this list fails WP:LISTN and WP:OR. Any notable songs can be discussed in a "In popular culture" section or similar at Lucknow. IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 17:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting. I can't tell if IgnatiusofLondon is offering an opinion here (please BOLD) or just catching us up on the history here but since the article was part of a previous bundled nomination, it's not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)- One is a comment, one is a !vote :))
IgnatiusofLondon (he/him •
☎️) 14:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, IgnatiusofLondon. I misread your comments. Liz Read! Talk! 23:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- One is a comment, one is a !vote :))
IgnatiusofLondon (he/him •
☎️) 14:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As stated, not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist, seeking more opinions here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per IgnatiusofLondon Mach61 19:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.