The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Procedural close. It's a little early, but I'm here now and the only plausible outcome for this is a procedural close. Evaluating so many articles in one AfD would be tough in any case, but with variations in article state, and with the subjects being from different countries (implying the need to consider possible sources in different languages), a big group nomination was definitely the wrong approach. No prejudice against speedy renomination or even using WP:PROD for eligible articles. RL0919 ( talk) 21:28, 14 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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This is one of about 40 biographies related to pageant contestants at Miss Universe 2013. There's evidence that many of them were created by a paid-editing sockfarm; the SPI states that the pageant organizer was the editor. None of these appears to be notable under the WP:BLP1E policy, none has anything like references that would sustain WP:ANYBIO. Many articles are sourced to Facebook, Instagram, and blogs; and google searches return many sites we don’t recognize as RS. For !voters not familiar with the beauty pageant space please refer to WP:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Sources to identify bad sources. ☆ Bri ( talk) 23:35, 7 August 2021 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the following because of the reasons stated above -- creation by the sockfarm/UPE editor for many, and poor sourcing:

• Alba Delgado
• Alexia Viruez
• Alixes Scott
• Ana Vrcelj
• Anastasia Sidiropoulou
• Aygerim Kozhakanova
• Betty Boniphace
• Brenda González
• Catherine Miller
• Chalita Yaemwannang
• Cynthia Duque
• Dominique Rinderknecht
• Doris Hofmann
• Elmira Abdrazakova
• Hanniel Jamin
• Holly Cassidy
• Jin Ye
• Katherina Roshana
• Kristina Karjalainen
• Lucia Aldana
• Marilyn Ramos
• Melita Fabečić
• Mhadere Tigabe
• Mondiana Pierre
• Monic Pérez
• Paulina Krupińska
• Paulina Malulu
• Rebeka Kárpáti
• Roxana Oana Andrei
• Simona Burbaitė
• Stefanie Evangelista
• Stephanie Okwu
• Stephanie Tency
• Tsaone Macheng
• Yukimi Matsuo

☆ Bri ( talk) 23:40, 7 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:38, 7 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:38, 7 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:38, 7 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Bundling about 40 more biographies from Miss Universe 2014 pageant. Every article bundled below was created by a beauty pageant sockfarm (mostly the sockfarm referenced above), appears to be BLP1E, and has minimal sourcing.

• Ana Luisa Montufar
• Anissa Blondin
• Bea Toivonen
• Chanel Beckenlehner
• Christie Désir
• Claudia Tavel
• Desirée Cordero Ferrer
• Diana Harkusha
• Elise Dalby
• Gaylyne Ayugi
• Hu Yanliang
• Ismini Dafopoulou
• Ivana Mišura
• Jimena Espinoza
• Josefin Donat
• Keiko Tsuji
• Laurien Angelista
• Maggaly Nguema
• Marline Barberena
• Nale Boniface
• Noyonita Lodh
• Pallavi Gungaram
• Patrícia Da Silva
• Patricia Murillo
• Pimbongkod Chankaew
• Queen Celestine
• Rathi Menon
• Sally Jara
• Silvia Prochádzková
• Urška Bračko
• Valentina Bonariva
• Yasmin Verheijen
• Zhaneta Byberi
• Zuleica Wilson

☆ Bri ( talk) 02:26, 8 August 2021 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the following. Miss Universe 2015 biographies. All nominations below are created by sockfarms and suit BLP1E.

• Alysha Boekhoudt
• Bianca Sánchez
• Cecilie Wellemberg
• Claudia Barrionuevo
• Daniela Torres
• Debbie Collins
• Denisa Vyšňovská
• Gladys Brandao
• Hilda Akua
• Idubina Rivas
• Jeimmy Aburto
• Jessica Xue
• Jessie Jazz Vuijk
• Joanna Cooper
• Mariana Jiménez
• Martine Rødseth
• Narissara France
• Nikoletta Nagy
• Paulina Brodd
• Radostina Todorova
• Rosa-Maria Ryyti
• Samantha McClung
• Sharlene Rädlein
• Shauna Ramdyhan
• Toria Nichole Penn
• Whitney Shikongo

☆ Bri ( talk) 02:57, 8 August 2021 (UTC) reply

• Comment - There are way too many articles of various quality and notability to review for one AfD. BabbaQ ( talk) 16:45, 8 August 2021 (UTC) reply
•  Comment: Agree with BabbaQ. Some articles have been decently brushed off or changed completely since they were started years ago. The beauty pageants from your list that I checked were notable, and sources were OK. Some were not up-to-date. Feel free to nominate for deletion articles written as advertisements, and ask for better sources if needed, but nomination of all these articles is a step too far. Vysotsky ( talk) 19:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC) reply
• But if needed I lean towards Keep and then re-nominate a smaller number of articles or the individual articles that are not notable. As I stated above these are too many articles of different notability. BabbaQ ( talk) 11:10, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
• Procedural keep, without prejudice to re-nominating in smaller, more manageable groups. Per the above comments, such a large AfD is impossible to discuss, and many of the articles have received substantial input by editors other than the creator. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 19:10, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
• I think what is needed is an RfC on notability of national pageant winners and (as has been already said) individual nominations of the above as appropriate. Furius ( talk) 13:25, 11 August 2021 (UTC) reply

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