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The result was Delete. Michig ( talk) 08:22, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Kiitra language
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This article about a constructed language fails notability and verifiability. All of its references are self-referential. It goes into great detail about the structure of the language, but the language is merely a feature of a scifi book, Lamikorda, which is itself at AfD ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamikorda). Both articles are written pretty much in-universe, but at least the book article has one outside reference; this Kiitra article has none. There is no evidence that the Kiitra language has been taken note of by any outside source. MelanieN ( talk) 17:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Update: Some external links and a reference have now been added to the article.
- There is an entry for this language at the Conlang Atlas of Language Structures. Kiitra was added to the atlas by a Single Purpose Account which lists the novel's website as their homepage, [1] so I am dubious whether this is an independent reference. The atlas is published by the Language Creation Society, of which the book's author D.R. Merrill is a member. [2]
- There is an entry for this language at the website Of Languages and Numbers. It is not clear who wrote that entry, so it may be a legitimate independent source. -- MelanieN ( talk) 01:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:15, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete: I believe that if the work of fiction is notable, its canonical conlangs generally deserve an article too (that means articles for Quenya, Tsolyáni, Kesh, Dothraki, D'ni, Na'vi, Furbish, Simlish, etc.), but Lamikorda appears to be an utterly non-notable. Therefore Kiitra does not have a strong claim to notability on this basis. I can't find any other factors that would argue for its notability either. Khemehekis ( talk) 23:16, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per Khemehekis. FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 19:47, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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The result was Delete. Michig ( talk) 08:22, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Kiitra language
- Kiitra language ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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This article about a constructed language fails notability and verifiability. All of its references are self-referential. It goes into great detail about the structure of the language, but the language is merely a feature of a scifi book, Lamikorda, which is itself at AfD ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamikorda). Both articles are written pretty much in-universe, but at least the book article has one outside reference; this Kiitra article has none. There is no evidence that the Kiitra language has been taken note of by any outside source. MelanieN ( talk) 17:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Update: Some external links and a reference have now been added to the article.
- There is an entry for this language at the Conlang Atlas of Language Structures. Kiitra was added to the atlas by a Single Purpose Account which lists the novel's website as their homepage, [1] so I am dubious whether this is an independent reference. The atlas is published by the Language Creation Society, of which the book's author D.R. Merrill is a member. [2]
- There is an entry for this language at the website Of Languages and Numbers. It is not clear who wrote that entry, so it may be a legitimate independent source. -- MelanieN ( talk) 01:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:15, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete: I believe that if the work of fiction is notable, its canonical conlangs generally deserve an article too (that means articles for Quenya, Tsolyáni, Kesh, Dothraki, D'ni, Na'vi, Furbish, Simlish, etc.), but Lamikorda appears to be an utterly non-notable. Therefore Kiitra does not have a strong claim to notability on this basis. I can't find any other factors that would argue for its notability either. Khemehekis ( talk) 23:16, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete per Khemehekis. FreeKnowledgeCreator ( talk) 19:47, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.