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A biography of a quack which has been toned down to be less promotional, but still every single source is either primary, unreliable, or in some cases both. There are no reliable independent sources discussing the subject - the closes we get is a quote or two. Guy (
Help!) 23:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Hello Guy, I have asked for review of the article and am working on adding additional, more reliable sources for the article. I would like to have some contributions from some of the contributors versus having it removed.
AChrisTurner (
talk) 00:04, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete.
User:AChrisTurner, I think you are wasting your time. The subject is not notable and it is not an article. It is an advertisement littered with many unreliable sources. The first source points to the Palmer College of Chiropractic. It gets worse after that.
QuackGuru (
talk) 01:20, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete unless reliable sources can be found. If the guy really did appear on Dr. Oz's show, there should be independent sources verifying it. However, that may not be true and the article does look like a flat out ad.
White Arabian FillyNeigh 01:40, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
@
White Arabian Fily and
QuackGuru: thank you for the feedback. I genuinely thought/think he was noteworthy enough to be included. I will see what I citable sources I can find related to the
Dr Oz aside from the show website itself.
@
QuackGuru: that may have been my mistake on that one. I apologize. There wasn't an intention to circumvent. The feedback is overwhelmingly in favor of deletion.
User:AChrisTurner, the article might be deleted very soon, as the result of SNOW delete. It may be better you spend your time improving another pages.
QuackGuru (
talk) 21:14, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
User:QuackGuru Yeah, I thought I found a good, Nashville chiropractor to craft a page for and contribute to Nashville entries in Wikipedia, but I suppose he isn't notable or credible enough at this time. I got interested after reading about his motivation, with his mom having had cancer
[1]. Thanks all! — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
AChrisTurner (
talk •
contribs) 23:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak keep per sourcing such as
New Beauty which describe him as "certified nutrition specialist Josh Axe".
Valoemtalkcontrib 03:16, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Fluff-packed article with a whole lot of ridiculous claims. And a whole lot of practitioners of questionable medicine have appeared on Dr. Oz; that claim means nothing. Nate•(
chatter) 03:45, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete unless better sources are found. There are traces of notability here, but the sources are not strong enough to confirm it for me. Many appear very similar to the clickbait that pops up on my non-adblocked laptop ("The 8 Complaints Nutritionists Hear Most", "6 Habits You Should Kick In Your 20s, For A Long, Healthy, & Happy Life" and all the others start "The 3..., 5... or 7... ways to be a better person") Others look like advertising.
[2] According to the Palmer source
[3] (which appears to be a testimonial) he worked with
Ryan Lochte, which depending on the level of work might push him close to notable. The only other mention of this is sourced to a biography.com article and as well as being unreliable does not even mention Axe.
[4]AIRcorn(talk) 09:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as non notable. Appearing on the Dr. Oz show and being consulted for a listicle isn't anywhere near enough to establish notability. MjolnirPantsTell me all about it. 14:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete: The article relies on very poor sources that seem to be the result of rampant self-promotion in mediocre publications.
Delta13C (
talk) 21:09, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Small newspapers, or content aggregators, do not carry as much weight as major publications. We'd need lots of local + at least regional coverage, but there would still be challenges meeting notability.
Delta13C (
talk) 00:59, 4 March 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
A biography of a quack which has been toned down to be less promotional, but still every single source is either primary, unreliable, or in some cases both. There are no reliable independent sources discussing the subject - the closes we get is a quote or two. Guy (
Help!) 23:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)reply
Hello Guy, I have asked for review of the article and am working on adding additional, more reliable sources for the article. I would like to have some contributions from some of the contributors versus having it removed.
AChrisTurner (
talk) 00:04, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete.
User:AChrisTurner, I think you are wasting your time. The subject is not notable and it is not an article. It is an advertisement littered with many unreliable sources. The first source points to the Palmer College of Chiropractic. It gets worse after that.
QuackGuru (
talk) 01:20, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete unless reliable sources can be found. If the guy really did appear on Dr. Oz's show, there should be independent sources verifying it. However, that may not be true and the article does look like a flat out ad.
White Arabian FillyNeigh 01:40, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
@
White Arabian Fily and
QuackGuru: thank you for the feedback. I genuinely thought/think he was noteworthy enough to be included. I will see what I citable sources I can find related to the
Dr Oz aside from the show website itself.
@
QuackGuru: that may have been my mistake on that one. I apologize. There wasn't an intention to circumvent. The feedback is overwhelmingly in favor of deletion.
User:AChrisTurner, the article might be deleted very soon, as the result of SNOW delete. It may be better you spend your time improving another pages.
QuackGuru (
talk) 21:14, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
User:QuackGuru Yeah, I thought I found a good, Nashville chiropractor to craft a page for and contribute to Nashville entries in Wikipedia, but I suppose he isn't notable or credible enough at this time. I got interested after reading about his motivation, with his mom having had cancer
[1]. Thanks all! — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
AChrisTurner (
talk •
contribs) 23:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak keep per sourcing such as
New Beauty which describe him as "certified nutrition specialist Josh Axe".
Valoemtalkcontrib 03:16, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Fluff-packed article with a whole lot of ridiculous claims. And a whole lot of practitioners of questionable medicine have appeared on Dr. Oz; that claim means nothing. Nate•(
chatter) 03:45, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete unless better sources are found. There are traces of notability here, but the sources are not strong enough to confirm it for me. Many appear very similar to the clickbait that pops up on my non-adblocked laptop ("The 8 Complaints Nutritionists Hear Most", "6 Habits You Should Kick In Your 20s, For A Long, Healthy, & Happy Life" and all the others start "The 3..., 5... or 7... ways to be a better person") Others look like advertising.
[2] According to the Palmer source
[3] (which appears to be a testimonial) he worked with
Ryan Lochte, which depending on the level of work might push him close to notable. The only other mention of this is sourced to a biography.com article and as well as being unreliable does not even mention Axe.
[4]AIRcorn(talk) 09:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as non notable. Appearing on the Dr. Oz show and being consulted for a listicle isn't anywhere near enough to establish notability. MjolnirPantsTell me all about it. 14:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete: The article relies on very poor sources that seem to be the result of rampant self-promotion in mediocre publications.
Delta13C (
talk) 21:09, 1 March 2016 (UTC)reply
Small newspapers, or content aggregators, do not carry as much weight as major publications. We'd need lots of local + at least regional coverage, but there would still be challenges meeting notability.
Delta13C (
talk) 00:59, 4 March 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.