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The result was keep. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 13:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Herrgärdets IP
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Per WP:GNG and WP:NARENA. This article has very few mentions on the Internet:
- the only citation of the article – which is only used to confirm that the stadium was the home stadium of Västerås IK for a game and doesn't give the topic significant coverage
- a blog post which seemingly gives a more significant coverage of the stadium but doesn't meet the criteria for reliable sources.
Searching "Herrgärdets IP" -wikipedia on Google only yields seven results: the first being the aforementioned blog post; three links giving the same level of coverage as the source given in the article; and three irrelevant links. The same query on Google Books and Google News yield no results.
The article on the Swedish Wikipedia uses the same source as this article and the article on the Dutch Wikipedia gives another link (which seems to be dead) whose archived version (as of 2 January 2014) only makes a passing mention of the stadium.
I suggest either deleting the article or redirecting to Västerås IK. -- Kzkzb ( talk) 09:22, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Sweden. Kzkzb ( talk) 09:22, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. So Herrgärdets IP is fairly significant in the history of Swedish sports: two Swedish ice hockey championship finals, home of Västerås SK and Västerås IK at a time when they played in the highest tiers of Swedish bandy and football (soccer), respectively, all of these being major sports in Sweden. There's a two-page article about the stadium in Vestmanlands Läns Tidning (accessible through sv:Mediearkivet) and some other mentions. Books which would contain more information are VSK : Västerås sportklubb : 100 år 1904–2004 (ed. Hans Mejevi), Västerås idrottsklubb : Jubileumsskrift. 1913-1943 and Arosidrotten 1000 år : en kulturhistorisk Västeråskrönika (ed. Ingemar Helgoson and Göte Johansson), none of which I have access to at the moment. I've expanded the article based on the texts I have found which are electronically accessible. / Julle ( talk) 12:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep You know, I am inclined to keep this article, it's small and could be expanded if additional information is found. However at the moment what is there is sourced and it is correct and can be helpful to a reader. If anything, this nomination feels it's simply sent to AfD because the nominator didn't like the article size! I don't see any point in a redirect as it has been a multipurpose venue used for different things. Also because it was a multipurpose venue, a redirect to a football club shouldn't be done. Correct redirect and merge would be to the town of Västerås. Regards Govvy ( talk) 22:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- To be fair, most of the article has been written since it was taken to AfD; when Kzkzb suggested a redirect to Västerås IK, it looked like this. I've since expanded it. / Julle ( talk) 02:05, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 19:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Västerås#Sports where it can be covered, don't think it's independently notable. Giant Snowman 19:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Govvy. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 22:10, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Very old article that is being put up due to new guidelines. I don't see how removing this helps the website in any way. KatoKungLee ( talk) 19:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. The sources demonstrate notability satisfying WP:GNG as well as WP:NARENA. The article could definitely be expanded, but the essentials of notability and coverage are there as a foundation. Shawn Teller ( talk) 04:27, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. I've also got confirmation there's more about Herrgärdets IP in Arosidrotten 1000 år, which together with the newspaper articles should be enough for notability as well as verifiability. / Julle ( talk) 09:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 13:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Herrgärdets IP
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Per WP:GNG and WP:NARENA. This article has very few mentions on the Internet:
- the only citation of the article – which is only used to confirm that the stadium was the home stadium of Västerås IK for a game and doesn't give the topic significant coverage
- a blog post which seemingly gives a more significant coverage of the stadium but doesn't meet the criteria for reliable sources.
Searching "Herrgärdets IP" -wikipedia on Google only yields seven results: the first being the aforementioned blog post; three links giving the same level of coverage as the source given in the article; and three irrelevant links. The same query on Google Books and Google News yield no results.
The article on the Swedish Wikipedia uses the same source as this article and the article on the Dutch Wikipedia gives another link (which seems to be dead) whose archived version (as of 2 January 2014) only makes a passing mention of the stadium.
I suggest either deleting the article or redirecting to Västerås IK. -- Kzkzb ( talk) 09:22, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Sweden. Kzkzb ( talk) 09:22, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. So Herrgärdets IP is fairly significant in the history of Swedish sports: two Swedish ice hockey championship finals, home of Västerås SK and Västerås IK at a time when they played in the highest tiers of Swedish bandy and football (soccer), respectively, all of these being major sports in Sweden. There's a two-page article about the stadium in Vestmanlands Läns Tidning (accessible through sv:Mediearkivet) and some other mentions. Books which would contain more information are VSK : Västerås sportklubb : 100 år 1904–2004 (ed. Hans Mejevi), Västerås idrottsklubb : Jubileumsskrift. 1913-1943 and Arosidrotten 1000 år : en kulturhistorisk Västeråskrönika (ed. Ingemar Helgoson and Göte Johansson), none of which I have access to at the moment. I've expanded the article based on the texts I have found which are electronically accessible. / Julle ( talk) 12:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep You know, I am inclined to keep this article, it's small and could be expanded if additional information is found. However at the moment what is there is sourced and it is correct and can be helpful to a reader. If anything, this nomination feels it's simply sent to AfD because the nominator didn't like the article size! I don't see any point in a redirect as it has been a multipurpose venue used for different things. Also because it was a multipurpose venue, a redirect to a football club shouldn't be done. Correct redirect and merge would be to the town of Västerås. Regards Govvy ( talk) 22:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- To be fair, most of the article has been written since it was taken to AfD; when Kzkzb suggested a redirect to Västerås IK, it looked like this. I've since expanded it. / Julle ( talk) 02:05, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 19:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Västerås#Sports where it can be covered, don't think it's independently notable. Giant Snowman 19:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Govvy. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 22:10, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Very old article that is being put up due to new guidelines. I don't see how removing this helps the website in any way. KatoKungLee ( talk) 19:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. The sources demonstrate notability satisfying WP:GNG as well as WP:NARENA. The article could definitely be expanded, but the essentials of notability and coverage are there as a foundation. Shawn Teller ( talk) 04:27, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. I've also got confirmation there's more about Herrgärdets IP in Arosidrotten 1000 år, which together with the newspaper articles should be enough for notability as well as verifiability. / Julle ( talk) 09:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.