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The result was no consensus. There is some support for Keeping this article despite questions about the subject's notabiity. I encourage editors to follow the suggestions in the discussion to look for Arabic sources under both names proposed here. Liz Read! Talk! 22:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC) reply

Gawdat al-Malt

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Non-notable auditor. Only "claim to fame" was being mistakenly named in a Reuters story, which was quickly corrected. Never held an WP:NPOL-conferring office, and a WP:BEFORE search did not return any WP:SIGCOV. Curbon7 ( talk) 17:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC) reply

    • Keep. Hi, I responded to the AfD call by cleaning up and expanding the article somewhat. I propose it is kept as Al-Malt is important to understand anti-corruption movement during 2011 uprising and that he preceded Hisham Genena. Ypedia1 ( talk) 02:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 19:45, 6 February 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Delete unfortunately, I don't see much improvement in the content of the article in recent days and notability is still questionable. Moreover, article formatting still doesn't follow WP:STYLE.
Ppt91 ( talk) 22:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep WP:NPOL says Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. The article says he is "former head of the State Council (Administrative Court) and former chairman of the top public finance and anti-corruption watchdog, the Central Audit Organization". These look like national offices of note. Bondegezou ( talk) 10:42, 8 February 2023 (UTC) reply
    I am unable to find what "State Council" even refers to, and simply being a government bureaucrat is not sufficient for WP:NPOL. Curbon7 ( talk) 02:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC) reply
Being a government bureaucrat is not sufficient, but being head of an important national body is. Bondegezou ( talk) 09:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Hesitant keep. I don't see how this is an ordinary bureaucrat; the article suggests he held a post accountable only to the President, in a country of considerable size, something confirmed by other sources [1], [2]. Holding such a position, for over a decade, should be more than enough for notability. To be clear, I'm not offering the links above as examples of SIGCOV, and I'm unsure of their reliability, but presumably the fact that he held the position is no longer in doubt. There are clearly transliteration issues here; these sources, when translated, render his name as "Jawdat Al-Mallat". I suggest stubifying this and asking for assistance from editors able to search arabic sources. Vanamonde ( Talk) 21:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There is some support for Keeping this article despite questions about the subject's notabiity. I encourage editors to follow the suggestions in the discussion to look for Arabic sources under both names proposed here. Liz Read! Talk! 22:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC) reply

Gawdat al-Malt

Gawdat al-Malt (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Non-notable auditor. Only "claim to fame" was being mistakenly named in a Reuters story, which was quickly corrected. Never held an WP:NPOL-conferring office, and a WP:BEFORE search did not return any WP:SIGCOV. Curbon7 ( talk) 17:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC) reply

    • Keep. Hi, I responded to the AfD call by cleaning up and expanding the article somewhat. I propose it is kept as Al-Malt is important to understand anti-corruption movement during 2011 uprising and that he preceded Hisham Genena. Ypedia1 ( talk) 02:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 19:45, 6 February 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Delete unfortunately, I don't see much improvement in the content of the article in recent days and notability is still questionable. Moreover, article formatting still doesn't follow WP:STYLE.
Ppt91 ( talk) 22:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep WP:NPOL says Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. The article says he is "former head of the State Council (Administrative Court) and former chairman of the top public finance and anti-corruption watchdog, the Central Audit Organization". These look like national offices of note. Bondegezou ( talk) 10:42, 8 February 2023 (UTC) reply
    I am unable to find what "State Council" even refers to, and simply being a government bureaucrat is not sufficient for WP:NPOL. Curbon7 ( talk) 02:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC) reply
Being a government bureaucrat is not sufficient, but being head of an important national body is. Bondegezou ( talk) 09:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Hesitant keep. I don't see how this is an ordinary bureaucrat; the article suggests he held a post accountable only to the President, in a country of considerable size, something confirmed by other sources [1], [2]. Holding such a position, for over a decade, should be more than enough for notability. To be clear, I'm not offering the links above as examples of SIGCOV, and I'm unsure of their reliability, but presumably the fact that he held the position is no longer in doubt. There are clearly transliteration issues here; these sources, when translated, render his name as "Jawdat Al-Mallat". I suggest stubifying this and asking for assistance from editors able to search arabic sources. Vanamonde ( Talk) 21:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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