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The result was keep. WP:SNOW close. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 01:42, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Education in Moldova
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Meandering mess with no central topic, no sources, no notability. If there is a topic here, then WP:TNT and start over. This has been sitting to rot for over 10 years and no one will even so much as look at it. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 18:52, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- "If there is a topic here"? Do you think that there might not be any education in Moldova? Maybe you class it as a shithole country? 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 19:07, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 19:20, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Moldova-related deletion discussions. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 19:20, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep The topic is clearly notable and AfD is not cleanup. WP:TNT is not policy; our actual policy is that "Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome.". Andrew D. ( talk) 19:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've been racking my aging brains to try to remember where such an offensive statement was made in a deletion nomination statement before, and have just remembered that it was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theatre of Zambia, where it was claimed that there might be no theatre in Zambia, and it turns out that it was the same nominator as here. Do you realise just how racist such comments are? 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 20:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Reply to IP comments I find nothing offensive about the nominator's reasoning this AFD. The question is not whether there is no education in Moldova but the problems with the article's content. If you have a problem with the nominator personally, please use the appropriate pages elsewhere on WP.
Mattg82 (
talk) 21:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- The nominator very clearly did raise the question of whether there is no education in Moldova. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 08:37, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Reply to IP comments I find nothing offensive about the nominator's reasoning this AFD. The question is not whether there is no education in Moldova but the problems with the article's content. If you have a problem with the nominator personally, please use the appropriate pages elsewhere on WP.
Mattg82 (
talk) 21:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Agree the article needs cleaning up, but the topic of education in a sovereign state is clearly notable. Ajf773 ( talk) 22:35, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I have cleaned the article up to make it more presentable and removed the statistics which I think was the main problem. Hopefully someone with more knowledge can improve and expand it. Mattg82 ( talk) 22:46, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep It may be in a shabby state, but there is certainly coverage out there to support its notability. A WP:BEFORE returns the following: a magazine article, an article from the World Bank, a full study published in this book, a chapter in this book, and another chapter in this book. - Indy beetle ( talk) 23:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- @ Indy beetle: And these sources have been added to the article, right? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:50, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've added a little info to the article. You ought to read the relevant policy concerning these matters that Andrew mentioned. You said that this subject had "no sources, no notability", though it would seem without checking WP:BEFORE. I generally consider myself an exclusionist, but I find your AfD campaigns to be counterproductive. If you are so bothered by all these poor articles, why don't you look for the sources and then add the relevant information to the article yourself? I think that would be a more constructive use of your time than nominating all these articles for deletion because they are low quality (not per policy or failure to meet WP:GNG). - Indy beetle ( talk) 03:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep I am baffled to see "Education in (recognized country)" in AfD! Very soon we will start seeing the whole country themselves – Ammarpad ( talk) 06:22, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Even without cleanup, this subject is clearly suitable for the encyclopedia. Smmurphy( Talk) 19:08, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Some of the footnotes could be also citing certain sources for the standpoint as well. SA 13 Bro ( talk) 23:11, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. The nominator may be right that the WP:TNT approach is indicated, but that is not an argument for deletion (in fact, it is an implicit argument against). -- Lambiam 22:10, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Andrew Davidson says it best. This topic is clearly important to cover and a bad article is better than nothing. There is no deadline. ElAhrairah inspect damage⁄ berate 22:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
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The result was keep. WP:SNOW close. Anarchyte ( work | talk) 01:42, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Education in Moldova
- Education in Moldova ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Meandering mess with no central topic, no sources, no notability. If there is a topic here, then WP:TNT and start over. This has been sitting to rot for over 10 years and no one will even so much as look at it. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 18:52, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- "If there is a topic here"? Do you think that there might not be any education in Moldova? Maybe you class it as a shithole country? 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 19:07, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 19:20, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Moldova-related deletion discussions. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 19:20, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep The topic is clearly notable and AfD is not cleanup. WP:TNT is not policy; our actual policy is that "Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome.". Andrew D. ( talk) 19:24, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've been racking my aging brains to try to remember where such an offensive statement was made in a deletion nomination statement before, and have just remembered that it was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theatre of Zambia, where it was claimed that there might be no theatre in Zambia, and it turns out that it was the same nominator as here. Do you realise just how racist such comments are? 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 20:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Reply to IP comments I find nothing offensive about the nominator's reasoning this AFD. The question is not whether there is no education in Moldova but the problems with the article's content. If you have a problem with the nominator personally, please use the appropriate pages elsewhere on WP.
Mattg82 (
talk) 21:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- The nominator very clearly did raise the question of whether there is no education in Moldova. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 08:37, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Reply to IP comments I find nothing offensive about the nominator's reasoning this AFD. The question is not whether there is no education in Moldova but the problems with the article's content. If you have a problem with the nominator personally, please use the appropriate pages elsewhere on WP.
Mattg82 (
talk) 21:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Agree the article needs cleaning up, but the topic of education in a sovereign state is clearly notable. Ajf773 ( talk) 22:35, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I have cleaned the article up to make it more presentable and removed the statistics which I think was the main problem. Hopefully someone with more knowledge can improve and expand it. Mattg82 ( talk) 22:46, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep It may be in a shabby state, but there is certainly coverage out there to support its notability. A WP:BEFORE returns the following: a magazine article, an article from the World Bank, a full study published in this book, a chapter in this book, and another chapter in this book. - Indy beetle ( talk) 23:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- @ Indy beetle: And these sources have been added to the article, right? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 00:50, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've added a little info to the article. You ought to read the relevant policy concerning these matters that Andrew mentioned. You said that this subject had "no sources, no notability", though it would seem without checking WP:BEFORE. I generally consider myself an exclusionist, but I find your AfD campaigns to be counterproductive. If you are so bothered by all these poor articles, why don't you look for the sources and then add the relevant information to the article yourself? I think that would be a more constructive use of your time than nominating all these articles for deletion because they are low quality (not per policy or failure to meet WP:GNG). - Indy beetle ( talk) 03:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep I am baffled to see "Education in (recognized country)" in AfD! Very soon we will start seeing the whole country themselves – Ammarpad ( talk) 06:22, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Even without cleanup, this subject is clearly suitable for the encyclopedia. Smmurphy( Talk) 19:08, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Some of the footnotes could be also citing certain sources for the standpoint as well. SA 13 Bro ( talk) 23:11, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. The nominator may be right that the WP:TNT approach is indicated, but that is not an argument for deletion (in fact, it is an implicit argument against). -- Lambiam 22:10, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Andrew Davidson says it best. This topic is clearly important to cover and a bad article is better than nothing. There is no deadline. ElAhrairah inspect damage⁄ berate 22:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
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