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The result was keep. based on new sources found in this AFD. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:16, 22 August 2022 (UTC) reply

Charles Crockett

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Doesn't appear to have WP:SIGCOV. On newspapers.com – which has a ton of US newspapers and should contain plenty of such information – I found nothing but passing mentions (i.e., cast lists) for the queries Charles Crockett Guilty Hands, Charles Crockett Gingham Girl, Charles Crockett Princess from Hoboken. Ovinus ( talk) 18:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Ovinus ( talk) 18:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC) reply
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions. Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:28, 15 August 2022 (UTC) reply
• Comment the LOC newspaper database has over 3000 hits on his name, all kinds of stuff. This one in 1925 lists him as a "veteran character actor" [1]. I think he was in many films without being recognized for any one role in particular. Searching for "Charles Crockett death" and similar, I get nothing. I'm leaning non-notable. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC) reply

Also tried a search in the New York State newspapers database, [2], nothing beyond cast lists. New York was likely the largest media market at the time he was active, but no hits from NYC or anywhere in the state we can use for notability. Oaktree b ( talk) 20:18, 15 August 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete Not enough coverage. TolWol ( talk) 01:19, 22 August 2022 (UTC) reply

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria says:

  People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

  • If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.

  Sources

  1. Katchmer, George A. (2002). A Biographical Dictionary of Silent Film Western Actors and Actresses. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. p. 78. ISBN  978-0-7864-4693-3. Retrieved 2022-08-22 – via Google Books.

     The book notes: "Charles B. Crockett was born in Baltimore, Maryland, on December 29, 1870, and he died on June 12, 1934, in Los Angeles, California, at age 64. I could find very little on his background except that he came to the screen from the stage. He may have appeared in comedy shorts as four of his twelve features were of that genre. He appeared in four Westerns two of which were considered epic. He also appeared in two historical and One Northwest film. Some of his films are: 1924: The Millionaire Cowboy with Lefty Flynn and Gloria Grey, (her father); Sundown with Besside Love and Roy Stewart (Joe Patton). ..."

  2. "Charles Crockett". Rotten Tomatoes. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22.

     The entry provides 74 words of coverage about the subject. The entry notes: "Charles Crockett was an actor who had a successful Hollywood career. Crockett began his career with a role in the Richard Dix historical feature "The Vanishing American" (1925)."

  3. "Will Rogers of Filmdom". The Cincinnati Post. 1926-08-14. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22 – via Newspapers.com.

     The article was published in 1926 so is in the public domain. The article notes: "Charles Crockett, well-known character actor, who was teamed with Claude Gillingwater a year ago in Frank Lloyd's "Winds of Chance" and who played the Indian agent in "Vanishing American," was selected by Svend Gade to play Senov, a street faker and carnival Punch and Judy operator in Corinne Griffith's Capitol Theater's photo-feature opening Sunday. In addition to being an actor of repute, Crockett is known in studioland as "Hollywood's Will Rogers," so famous have his many humorous after-dinner speeches become in every quarter of the studio city."

  4. Less significant coverage:
     1. "Academy Dinner". Bulletin. No. 10. Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. 1928-05-03. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22.

        The article notes (bolding added for emphasis): "An amusing innovation was occasioned by a speech by "Karl Frankel" introduced as a famous engineer from Berlin, Germany, who lampooned the Academy, the Engineers, Hollywood and the motion picture industry so cleverly that all guests, except the few who were informed, were unaware of the deception until Mr. Niblo re-introduced "Herr Frankel" at the end of his speech as Charles Crockett, the well known character actor of Hollywood."

     2. "Into Her Kingdom At Senator Stars Corrine Griffith". The Sacramento Bee. 1926-08-14. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22 – via Newspapers.com.

        The article notes (bolding added for emphasis): "Claude Gillingwater, Charles Crockett, Marcel Corday and a number of other screen luminaries are listed among those playing important parts In Into Her Kingdom."

     3. "Capitol Theater". The Scranton Times-Tribune. 1927-10-05. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22 – via Newspapers.com.

        Regarding the 1927 silent film The Princess from Hoboken, the article notes: "One of the finest characterisations in this story of the screen is by Edmund Burns but there is also a fine bit of character acting, by Charles Crockett."

     4. Shaffer, Rosalind (1929-03-24). "Film Stars Under Unique Discipline. Frequently Are Called Down In Social Way". The Commercial Appeal. Chicago Tribune Press Services. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22 – via Newspapers.com.

        The article notes: "Hollywood has its full share of these love feasts and at one of these given for Mr. Lasky, Charles Crockett, the other gag man, got up and told, as an out-of-town exhibitor, that he was going to have to refuse to show any more of the filthy sexy immoral pictures being produced by that company, Famous-Lasky. Mr. Jesse Lasky turned white and did not seem to be enjoying his dinner, but the situation was lightened by the toastmaster pulling off the false whiskers and introducing Mr. Crockett, for what he was."

     5. ""The Dressmaker From Paris" Is Recent Feature Starting Today". Ottawa Journal. 1925-04-04. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22 – via Newspapers.com.

        The article notes: "Other roles of importance in the cast have been assigned to Barry Gray, Charles Crockett, veteran character actor who is cast as the chief executive of the small town; Rosemary Cooper and Spec O'Donnell."

     6. "Historical Film Rialto Offering. "The Vanishing American" an Epic of the Conquering of the Red Man". The Tacoma Daily Ledger. 1926-05-23. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22 – via Newspapers.com.

        The article notes (bolding added for emphasis): "Completing the all-star line-up of supporting players are such prominent names as George Magill, Shannon Day, Charles Crockett, Bert Woodruff, Bernard Siegel, Guy Oliver, Charles Stevens, Joe Ryan.

     7. ""Winds Of Chance," Rex Beach Nove, Makes Great Film". Bristol Herald Courier. 1925-12-13. Archived from the original on 2022-08-22. Retrieved 2022-08-22 – via Newspapers.com.

        The article notes: "Claude Gillingwater and Charles Crockett as Tom and Jerry, two old prospectors eternally quarrelling, yet deeply devoted to each other, are a hit. Gillingwater has ever since his memorable debut as the Earl in "Little Lord Fauntleroy" been ranked as one of our best character actors and teamed with Crockett, his work has never been more convincing, appealing or enjoyable."

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Charles Crockett to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard ( talk) 09:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC) reply

• Comment: I expanded and added sources to the article. Cunard ( talk) 09:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC) reply

  Cunard strikes again! Not sure how you found these... the Katchmer source is excellent. I'd withdraw the nomination but people have already !voted delete—@ Oaktree b and TolWol: any objections? Ovinus ( talk) 14:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC) reply

  Keep I'm ok with the new sources. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:09, 22 August 2022 (UTC) reply

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