Caribbean South America
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WP:UNSOURCED since creation in 2004. Not mentioned in any Google Books source, so likely fails WP:GNG. Formally proposing deletion after rejected WP:PROD. NLeeuw ( talk) 18:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Caribbean and South America. NLeeuw ( talk) 18:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing more than an unsourced defintion. The prod removal is utterly absurd, if you think this is "not an uncotroversial deletion", you need to explain what makes it controversial. Reywas92 Talk 20:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Just needs to be sourced. I found hits in Google Books, but not on the first page, and "Caribe sudamericano" brought up other hits as well. There are potentially usable sources on the Spanish and Portuguese language pages.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 22:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Which Books results are you seeing? Beyond the first page of the Caribbean—South America plate boundary, the hits are tables where they are adjacent labels. Looking at the iw links and searches in Spanish, it still just seems there's nothing much more to say beyond that Colombia and Venezula border the Caribbean and this may be a convenient way to group them. Merge that definition to
Outline_of_South_America#Regions_of_South_America or something.
Reywas92
Talk 04:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Various US Trade publications and some old guide books. SportingFlyer T· C 21:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The Ministry of Tourism of Colombia calls that place “Caribe Colombiano” (I put a reference to the government page) so I think we just don’t know about it because we don’t live in Colombia, but seems to be a pretty notable geographical division for them. Contributor892z ( talk) 23:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Which Books results are you seeing? Beyond the first page of the Caribbean—South America plate boundary, the hits are tables where they are adjacent labels. Looking at the iw links and searches in Spanish, it still just seems there's nothing much more to say beyond that Colombia and Venezula border the Caribbean and this may be a convenient way to group them. Merge that definition to
Outline_of_South_America#Regions_of_South_America or something.
Reywas92
Talk 04:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 20:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I never saw on any geography books that there is a Caribbean part of South America. Culturally speaking, I know that
Guyana feels closer to the Caribbean than to South America, but I’m not sure this is worthy of an article.
Contributor892z (
talk) 21:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Guyana is generally considered part of the West Indies. SportingFlyer T· C 21:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article is pretty short, but Colombians clearly consider their northern coast from at least
Cartagena and the
Rosario Islands in the west to
Riohacha and the
Guajira Peninsula in the east to be Caribbean. The food and culture in the coastal region is heavily based on the Caribbean.
Cbl62 (
talk) 22:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like you are right, so I put the references (including one from Unesco that I got from the page Caribe Sudamericano) and now I am in favour of Keep then. Contributor892z ( talk) 23:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article is pretty short, but Colombians clearly consider their northern coast from at least
Cartagena and the
Rosario Islands in the west to
Riohacha and the
Guajira Peninsula in the east to be Caribbean. The food and culture in the coastal region is heavily based on the Caribbean.
Cbl62 (
talk) 22:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Caribbean South America
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- Caribbean South America ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
WP:UNSOURCED since creation in 2004. Not mentioned in any Google Books source, so likely fails WP:GNG. Formally proposing deletion after rejected WP:PROD. NLeeuw ( talk) 18:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Caribbean and South America. NLeeuw ( talk) 18:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing more than an unsourced defintion. The prod removal is utterly absurd, if you think this is "not an uncotroversial deletion", you need to explain what makes it controversial. Reywas92 Talk 20:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Just needs to be sourced. I found hits in Google Books, but not on the first page, and "Caribe sudamericano" brought up other hits as well. There are potentially usable sources on the Spanish and Portuguese language pages.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 22:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Which Books results are you seeing? Beyond the first page of the Caribbean—South America plate boundary, the hits are tables where they are adjacent labels. Looking at the iw links and searches in Spanish, it still just seems there's nothing much more to say beyond that Colombia and Venezula border the Caribbean and this may be a convenient way to group them. Merge that definition to
Outline_of_South_America#Regions_of_South_America or something.
Reywas92
Talk 04:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Various US Trade publications and some old guide books. SportingFlyer T· C 21:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The Ministry of Tourism of Colombia calls that place “Caribe Colombiano” (I put a reference to the government page) so I think we just don’t know about it because we don’t live in Colombia, but seems to be a pretty notable geographical division for them. Contributor892z ( talk) 23:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Which Books results are you seeing? Beyond the first page of the Caribbean—South America plate boundary, the hits are tables where they are adjacent labels. Looking at the iw links and searches in Spanish, it still just seems there's nothing much more to say beyond that Colombia and Venezula border the Caribbean and this may be a convenient way to group them. Merge that definition to
Outline_of_South_America#Regions_of_South_America or something.
Reywas92
Talk 04:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 20:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I never saw on any geography books that there is a Caribbean part of South America. Culturally speaking, I know that
Guyana feels closer to the Caribbean than to South America, but I’m not sure this is worthy of an article.
Contributor892z (
talk) 21:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Guyana is generally considered part of the West Indies. SportingFlyer T· C 21:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article is pretty short, but Colombians clearly consider their northern coast from at least
Cartagena and the
Rosario Islands in the west to
Riohacha and the
Guajira Peninsula in the east to be Caribbean. The food and culture in the coastal region is heavily based on the Caribbean.
Cbl62 (
talk) 22:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like you are right, so I put the references (including one from Unesco that I got from the page Caribe Sudamericano) and now I am in favour of Keep then. Contributor892z ( talk) 23:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article is pretty short, but Colombians clearly consider their northern coast from at least
Cartagena and the
Rosario Islands in the west to
Riohacha and the
Guajira Peninsula in the east to be Caribbean. The food and culture in the coastal region is heavily based on the Caribbean.
Cbl62 (
talk) 22:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)