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The result was snow close. There seems to be a consensus that any notability here is via his relation to Miley Cyrus and since notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, we have to judge this by sourcing and the weight of the parts. The sourcing just isn't here and the parts are fairly minor, as they're all very small, minor, trivial roles. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:11, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Brandon Cyrus
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Dudel250 (
talk) 07:53, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
fixed link
♥ Solarra ♥
♪ Talk ♪ ߷
♀ Contribs ♀
- Keep I feel the subject meets WP:NACTOR (specifically: "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.") ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 08:06, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Keep As the page is fairly new, it is currently being edited by our team. As a stub, it is short and it will have issues. Thank you. -- BrandonCyrus ( talk) 08:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete There is no evidence anywhere of notability. The article is sourced only to Brandon Cyrus's own web site, a dead link to a web site described as "Shop Brandon Cyrus", and IMDb. Checking a Google search for "Brandon Cyrus", and ignoring hits clearly relating to other people called "Brandon Cyrus", I found Brandon Cyrus's own web site, IMDb, Twitter, Facebook, etc, but nothing resembling a reliable independent source. Solarra says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions", but neither Solarra nor the article provides any source to support that claim. Even Brandon Cyrus's own web site merely says that he "landed a spot on Disney's Hannah Montana and High School Musical 2", not that he "starred" in them, as the article says. IMDb describes his role in Hannah Montana as an "extra". It is clear that the article is an inflated attempt at promotion of this person, probably self-promotion, as the article was created by the editor "BrandonCyrus". Everything I have been able to find anywhere suggests that he is at best a bit-part actor. The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 10:02, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Comment User:Brandon Cyrus has requested to change his username here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zince34 ( talk • contribs) 11:24, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, effectively unsourced and no third-party evidence of notability. TheLongTone ( talk) 12:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - As JamesBWatson has already stated the case so eloquently, I will just I agree. Vanity article by and for the less popular of the Cyrus family. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 19:19, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:44, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:44, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:GNG LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:16, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per JamesBWatson. →Davey2010→ →Talk to me!→ 01:30, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Subjects should receive sufficient reliable source coverage, then an article, not the other way around. Additionally, obvious attempts at promotion are usually detrimental to a BLP subject, even where the subject (or employees/financial partners thereof) desires them. The BLP subject should not be exposed to the public embarrassment risked by admitted "image management" COI editors, but other editors could make a page from scratch later if actual sources develop. It will be easier to develop a NPOV page if it's not based on a purely promotional and unsourced resume in any case. __ E L A Q U E A T E 01:39, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - sorry but "Notability is not inherited" ..-- Stemoc ( talk) 02:51, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: Until I see that there's greater evidence of notability, this page doesn't seem necessary. Notability isn't inherited by any notable family members, otherwise we would have a billion pages on the cousins of Kim Jong-il, who were all high-ranking Workers' Party of Korea figures at some stage. -- benlisquare T• C• E 03:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
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The result was snow close. There seems to be a consensus that any notability here is via his relation to Miley Cyrus and since notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, we have to judge this by sourcing and the weight of the parts. The sourcing just isn't here and the parts are fairly minor, as they're all very small, minor, trivial roles. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:11, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Brandon Cyrus
- Brandon Cyrus ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
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Bgwhites talk page Sections "About a page" and "Brandon Cyrus / User:BrandonCyrus"
Dudel250 (
talk) 07:53, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
fixed link
♥ Solarra ♥
♪ Talk ♪ ߷
♀ Contribs ♀
- Keep I feel the subject meets WP:NACTOR (specifically: "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.") ♥ Solarra ♥ ♪ Talk ♪ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 08:06, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Keep As the page is fairly new, it is currently being edited by our team. As a stub, it is short and it will have issues. Thank you. -- BrandonCyrus ( talk) 08:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete There is no evidence anywhere of notability. The article is sourced only to Brandon Cyrus's own web site, a dead link to a web site described as "Shop Brandon Cyrus", and IMDb. Checking a Google search for "Brandon Cyrus", and ignoring hits clearly relating to other people called "Brandon Cyrus", I found Brandon Cyrus's own web site, IMDb, Twitter, Facebook, etc, but nothing resembling a reliable independent source. Solarra says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions", but neither Solarra nor the article provides any source to support that claim. Even Brandon Cyrus's own web site merely says that he "landed a spot on Disney's Hannah Montana and High School Musical 2", not that he "starred" in them, as the article says. IMDb describes his role in Hannah Montana as an "extra". It is clear that the article is an inflated attempt at promotion of this person, probably self-promotion, as the article was created by the editor "BrandonCyrus". Everything I have been able to find anywhere suggests that he is at best a bit-part actor. The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 10:02, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Comment User:Brandon Cyrus has requested to change his username here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zince34 ( talk • contribs) 11:24, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, effectively unsourced and no third-party evidence of notability. TheLongTone ( talk) 12:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - As JamesBWatson has already stated the case so eloquently, I will just I agree. Vanity article by and for the less popular of the Cyrus family. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 19:19, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:44, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:44, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:GNG LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:16, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per JamesBWatson. →Davey2010→ →Talk to me!→ 01:30, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Subjects should receive sufficient reliable source coverage, then an article, not the other way around. Additionally, obvious attempts at promotion are usually detrimental to a BLP subject, even where the subject (or employees/financial partners thereof) desires them. The BLP subject should not be exposed to the public embarrassment risked by admitted "image management" COI editors, but other editors could make a page from scratch later if actual sources develop. It will be easier to develop a NPOV page if it's not based on a purely promotional and unsourced resume in any case. __ E L A Q U E A T E 01:39, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - sorry but "Notability is not inherited" ..-- Stemoc ( talk) 02:51, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete: Until I see that there's greater evidence of notability, this page doesn't seem necessary. Notability isn't inherited by any notable family members, otherwise we would have a billion pages on the cousins of Kim Jong-il, who were all high-ranking Workers' Party of Korea figures at some stage. -- benlisquare T• C• E 03:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.