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The result was redirect to Oskar Braun. Liz Read! Talk! 18:14, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Ausgewählte Akten Persischer Märtyrer
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Appears to fail WP:NBOOK. RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 23:10, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Christianity. RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 23:10, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: actually, this has a much bigger internet footprint than I'd expect for a book more than 100 years old. People are still citing it in this century, so I think it must be well-known in its field, and thus notable after all. I don't have more time to go digging right now, but I've added a review to the references on the article. --
asilvering (
talk) 23:41, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- This encyclopedia article about Braun says "Finally, Braun’s German translation of select Persian martyr acts (1915), based on P. Bedjan’s edition, should be singled out as another of his works that even after nearly a century has not been replaced and continues to be extremely useful."
[1]. If nothing else, we should be able to use this encyclopedia article to create a stub about Braun and redirect the book title to the bio stub.
Jahaza (
talk) 05:51, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- I found another one of his books, reprinted in 2009 by Analecta Georgica, which reprints things that "are consistently cited by modern scholars but previously difficult to find because of their original appearance in obscure publications. Carefully selected by a team of scholars based on their relevance to modern scholarship, these essays can now be fully utilized by scholars and proudly owned by libraries." That makes two books at least that are still being cited today despite their age - a clear WP:NPROF pass as far as I'm concerned. I'll start up a stub. No point in keeping this separate article unless someone is planning to expand it, so a redirect as you suggest seems like the best option. -- asilvering ( talk) 04:26, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- This encyclopedia article about Braun says "Finally, Braun’s German translation of select Persian martyr acts (1915), based on P. Bedjan’s edition, should be singled out as another of his works that even after nearly a century has not been replaced and continues to be extremely useful."
[1]. If nothing else, we should be able to use this encyclopedia article to create a stub about Braun and redirect the book title to the bio stub.
Jahaza (
talk) 05:51, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:05, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- See: de:Ausgewählte Akten Persischer Märtyrer - much longer article although it relies on the same references. Jahaza has an interesting idea about an Oskar Braun article.
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 21:35, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment agree that an article on Braun seems to be possible with this article merged there, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 19:35, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 14:51, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Oskar Braun, which I just created, see comment above. If anyone wishes to fill out the article further, please do go ahead. --
asilvering (
talk) 05:01, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- I’m cool with a redirect. RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 07:29, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Oskar Braun per discussion above. Many thanks to @ asilvering!
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 13:44, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Oskar Braun. Liz Read! Talk! 18:14, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Ausgewählte Akten Persischer Märtyrer
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- Ausgewählte Akten Persischer Märtyrer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Appears to fail WP:NBOOK. RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 23:10, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Christianity. RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 23:10, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: actually, this has a much bigger internet footprint than I'd expect for a book more than 100 years old. People are still citing it in this century, so I think it must be well-known in its field, and thus notable after all. I don't have more time to go digging right now, but I've added a review to the references on the article. --
asilvering (
talk) 23:41, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- This encyclopedia article about Braun says "Finally, Braun’s German translation of select Persian martyr acts (1915), based on P. Bedjan’s edition, should be singled out as another of his works that even after nearly a century has not been replaced and continues to be extremely useful."
[1]. If nothing else, we should be able to use this encyclopedia article to create a stub about Braun and redirect the book title to the bio stub.
Jahaza (
talk) 05:51, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- I found another one of his books, reprinted in 2009 by Analecta Georgica, which reprints things that "are consistently cited by modern scholars but previously difficult to find because of their original appearance in obscure publications. Carefully selected by a team of scholars based on their relevance to modern scholarship, these essays can now be fully utilized by scholars and proudly owned by libraries." That makes two books at least that are still being cited today despite their age - a clear WP:NPROF pass as far as I'm concerned. I'll start up a stub. No point in keeping this separate article unless someone is planning to expand it, so a redirect as you suggest seems like the best option. -- asilvering ( talk) 04:26, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- This encyclopedia article about Braun says "Finally, Braun’s German translation of select Persian martyr acts (1915), based on P. Bedjan’s edition, should be singled out as another of his works that even after nearly a century has not been replaced and continues to be extremely useful."
[1]. If nothing else, we should be able to use this encyclopedia article to create a stub about Braun and redirect the book title to the bio stub.
Jahaza (
talk) 05:51, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:05, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- See: de:Ausgewählte Akten Persischer Märtyrer - much longer article although it relies on the same references. Jahaza has an interesting idea about an Oskar Braun article.
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 21:35, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment agree that an article on Braun seems to be possible with this article merged there, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 19:35, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 14:51, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Oskar Braun, which I just created, see comment above. If anyone wishes to fill out the article further, please do go ahead. --
asilvering (
talk) 05:01, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- I’m cool with a redirect. RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 07:29, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Oskar Braun per discussion above. Many thanks to @ asilvering!
- -- A. B. ( talk • contribs • global count) 13:44, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.