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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kpg jhp jm 02:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Aleksandr Smetanov

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WP:POLITICIAN? -- RTY9099 ( talk) 03:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Comment Discussion page was created without the {{ afd2}} template and never transcluded to a daily log. Fixed now--I have no opinion on the nomination itself at this time. @ RTY9099: for future nominations, please fully follow the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO. Thank you. -- Finngall talk 02:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga ( talk) 05:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga ( talk) 05:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Likely keep A member of the Moscow City Duma, a body in which we generally keep local officials (and we must recognize that the Moscow Duma is also a regional parliament) (per WP:POLOUTCOMES. The sourcing appears sufficient for a local official. -- Enos733 ( talk) 07:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Moscow is (a) a global city whose city councillors are considered notable enough to pass NPOL #2, and (b) a standalone federal city of Russia which is effectively a "state" or "province" in its own right (which is why its city government is a Duma and not just a city council), thus its city councillors actually bump up from NPOL #2 to NPOL #1 as first-order divisional legislators. This does need a bit of copyediting, but it's already got considerably more and better sources than we usually see in articles about city councillors, so even if Moscow didn't get its city councillors over NPOL, #2 would still be in play because of the depth and range of sources anyway. Bearcat ( talk) 22:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Moscow is one of the biggest cities in the world, so its city councillors are generally notable, plus the city Duma is comparable to a state senate, whose members are almost always notable. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 15:52, 9 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:NPOL, though cleanup is needed. As a side note, while it reads as if this article was written by a Russian speaker, there doesn't seem to be an article on ruwiki; it's listed on ru:Проект:Москва/Список_депутатов_МГД_6_созыва as a possible project. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 00:54, 12 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Elected member of the governing body of one of the biggest cities in the world. Carrite ( talk) 15:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kpg jhp jm 02:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Aleksandr Smetanov

Aleksandr Smetanov (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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WP:POLITICIAN? -- RTY9099 ( talk) 03:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Comment Discussion page was created without the {{ afd2}} template and never transcluded to a daily log. Fixed now--I have no opinion on the nomination itself at this time. @ RTY9099: for future nominations, please fully follow the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO. Thank you. -- Finngall talk 02:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga ( talk) 05:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. KCVelaga ( talk) 05:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Likely keep A member of the Moscow City Duma, a body in which we generally keep local officials (and we must recognize that the Moscow Duma is also a regional parliament) (per WP:POLOUTCOMES. The sourcing appears sufficient for a local official. -- Enos733 ( talk) 07:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Moscow is (a) a global city whose city councillors are considered notable enough to pass NPOL #2, and (b) a standalone federal city of Russia which is effectively a "state" or "province" in its own right (which is why its city government is a Duma and not just a city council), thus its city councillors actually bump up from NPOL #2 to NPOL #1 as first-order divisional legislators. This does need a bit of copyediting, but it's already got considerably more and better sources than we usually see in articles about city councillors, so even if Moscow didn't get its city councillors over NPOL, #2 would still be in play because of the depth and range of sources anyway. Bearcat ( talk) 22:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Moscow is one of the biggest cities in the world, so its city councillors are generally notable, plus the city Duma is comparable to a state senate, whose members are almost always notable. ~ EDDY ( talk/ contribs)~ 15:52, 9 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:NPOL, though cleanup is needed. As a side note, while it reads as if this article was written by a Russian speaker, there doesn't seem to be an article on ruwiki; it's listed on ru:Проект:Москва/Список_депутатов_МГД_6_созыва as a possible project. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 00:54, 12 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - Elected member of the governing body of one of the biggest cities in the world. Carrite ( talk) 15:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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