I have a good amount of experience with the arbcom from the outside, and I feel confident saying that the single biggest thing it takes is wading through evidence pages - often confusingly ordered and worded evidence pages. It involves reading diffs, and a huge amount of dedication to piecing together what's going on.
This is a change from what the arbcom needed last year. Last year, the arbcom was dealing with cases like Lir, Plautus, and Irismeister regularly, and dragging at them. That's not the case this year - the last slam dunk malevolent user the arbcom dealt with was Plautus, which took them a week.
It doesn't take anyone special to ban Plautus or Lir - I doubt there's a person running in this election who wouldn't have done that. What we need are arbitrators who are willing and able to put in the commitment to the harder cases - to the ones that involve the well-meaning editors with a legitimate disagreement that need to be disentangled, not smashed with a banstick.
Different circumstances require different kinds of arbitrators. And I promise to be one of those different kinds of arbitrators. If elected, I promise to review evidence carefully, and to look at situations with the larger Wikipedia community in mind. Like it or not, arbcom decisions are cited as justifications in policy debates now, and the arbcom needs to be careful about what it says in light of that. A recent near-disaster is the Coolcat case, when the arbcom nearly made a ruling that could easily have been interpreted as shutting down informal mediation. I was one of the ones who pointed out that problem, and if elected, I intend to keep problems like that from happening - without abandoning the need for effective rulings that minimize the need for repeat cases.
Phil is abrasive, but he gets the job done. The only people he offends tend to be POV pushers or trolls.
Johnleemk |
Talk 02:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support --
Arwel (
talk) 02:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support Has an innate sense of doing the right thing and the courage of his convictions.
Rx StrangeLove 02:53, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support He is capable of playing a different role
Fred Bauder 03:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support.Calton |
Talk 03:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC). Change of vote. --
Calton |
Talk 00:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong support Snowspinner has long been Wikipeida's sword and shield defending encyclopedic standards from POV pushers and trolls.
172 04:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support -- disagree with thinking on policy and actions, but understand a consistent viewpoint and a feeling on what wikipedia should be.
Avriette 06:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Weak Support, controversial but a good user and seems like decent arbitration material.
Ral315(talk) 19:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Should be reserved for situations where morosity and stubbornness are the main ingredients to the arbitration case - cuts straight through the accumulated nonsense.
JFW |
T@lk 21:03, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support --
Carnildo 21:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Experience and statement outweighs any regrets about recent history (see list of oppose votes). —
Ian MankaQuestions? Talk to me! 20:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Someone mentioned abrasive, and that's exactly what the ArbCom needs: someone to tell it straight.
CernenXanthineKatrena 06:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose because of recent wheel wars. Unacceptable behavior for a future arbitrator, regardless of who was in the right.
Oleg Alexandrov (
talk) 00:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong Oppose per his actions at
WP:RFC/KM. He's basically just running to attempt to get more influence in his never ending crusade to get whatever he wants.
karmafist 01:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose<Snowspinner> Feed them. Then they cross the line and you can get rid of them. "Trolling for the forces of good," I call it. ... Getting my oppose vote is what I'd call it. --
Gmaxwell 03:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Zordrac does not have suffrage; his first edit was at 12:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC). —
Cryptic(talk) 04:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- per gmaxwell.
kmccoy(talk) 03:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose, too many confrontations; Arbcom should be about resolving disputes, not starting more. We need
bold editors, but not there. Crotalus horridus (
TALK •
CONTRIBS) 04:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose - involved in too many disputes. Ronline✉ 04:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Intention seem good but track record suggests too adversial for Arbcom. —the preceding
unsigned comment is byNovacatz (
talk •
contribs) 05:01, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Oppose No confidence in this editors abiltiy to check his ego at the Wiki door, so to speak. Too adversarial, too many problems with other editors.
Hamster Sandwich 05:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose Somewhat reluctantly.
why? ++
Lar:
t/
c 09:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Too quick to buck consensus, not wary enough of ArbCom being used as a platform for ruling on policy. --
SCZenz 09:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Trifon Triantafillidis does not have suffrage; his first edit was at 09:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC) and he had only 26 edits as of 00:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC). (
caveats) —
Cryptic(talk) 15:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Very Strong Oppose Sorry but I must oppose. Snowspinner just does not show consistantly good judgement when it comes to interaction on WP.
ALKIVAR™ 13:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Sad oppose. History of vandal-fighting and troll-killing is solid, but too many recent wheel wars, too much unilaterial action without consensus, and too much
WP:IAR tips the scales into the oppose side. Sorry. Let's hope 2006 is better.
Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Too block-happy. See
this block, which was for a user who had made "personal attacks" only in the most loose interpretation possible. —
BrianSmithson 14:01, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose improper temperment. Would do poor work and make controversial matters only worse. Sorry.
Gator(talk) 14:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose, the remedies he has proposed in past cases are way too harsh. Also, lack of respect for community consensus.
Radiant_>|< 14:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Note, this was not me. --
Kbdank71 14:52, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose: this is supposed to be an arbitration committee. Let us not forget what the word is meant to mean... —
It's-is-not-a-genitive 15:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Recent wheel-warring leaves a bad taste in my mouth. howcheng {
chat} 18:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose --
BACbKA 22:28, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. (Note: Vote only reflects suitability of candidate to the role, and does not reflect overall contributions or personally.) -
Mailer Diablo 02:13, 11 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Vigorous Oppose. For many of the same reasons already mentioned. Confrontational, has a piling-on mentality and is arbitrary and unjust in the use of his admin authority.
deeceevoice 16:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I have concerns about your methods of arbitrating as displayed on your talk page
Gnangarra 16:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose. He is controversial and for good reason. On repeated occassions he's blatantly violated Wikipedia policies to delete articles he didn't like which clearly didn't fall under speedy deletion criteria. In
WP:COMICS has explicitly stated that he personally is allowed to override consensus whenever he thinks the consensus is wrong. He's had a block on me reversed because it was a) obviously wrong and b) a complete conflict of interest (he refuses to even acknowledge the possibility of a conflict of interest). He has personally threatened to block me for simply inserting a straw poll on a talk page. Read
Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Snowspinner_2 for a good idea of how much he doesn't care about Wikipedia civility and no personal attacks policies despite strong enforcing them. In short, he rules with his temper and not in slightest bit with objectivity. His philosophy is "the ends justify the means and screw anyone who thinks otherwise" (see [
[2]]). SO many people know he his a problem and should have his admin privileges revoked, it's really just support from a few powerful admins, namely current arbitrators, that he hasn't.
Nathan J. Yoder 17:23, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Rest of comment moved to
talk page ++
Lar:
t/
c 17:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
oppose brought an essentially frivolous case before arbcom (without first filing RFC).
Derex 18:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Love the experience and the statement. Abhor the contentious tone in some of the 4 (!) RFCs this year. --
William Pietri 23:06, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose. His recent behaviour is an abomination. Additionally, he thinks it perfectly ok to be one sided in arbitration decisions. --
Victim of signature fascism |
help remove biblecruft 19:00, 15 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Not the right place for this valued wikipedian.
Youngamerican 18:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- Frankly, he should be banned completely... proudly violates policy, gets in wheel wars, is completely the opposite of what we need.
DreamGuy 13:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose, Intellectually unqualified and the worst of roleplaying.
The Witch 15:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose from what i have seen creates problems. Not a calming influence.
David D.(Talk) 00:27, 18 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. After seeing his
Template:Expert recovery -- and his statement on TfD that he'll ignore the voter's will and impose his own bias, Wikipedia principles on verifiability and citation be damned -- I can't imagine how he'll be able to act fairly in a judgment role. --
Calton |
Talk 01:03, 18 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose Much like universities require publications for continuing tenure, Wikipedian admins should continue contributing to the articles. All I really see in your 500 most recent contributions are Wiki administrative business edits and very little, if any, edits on encyclopedia articles.
Author782 08:33, 20 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Kolokol does not have suffrage; he had only
144 edits as of 00:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC). (
caveats) —
Cryptic(talk) 11:56, 22 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Statement and questions show a good mind, but appears temperamantally unsuited. —
Josiah Rowe (
talk •
contribs) 07:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Neutral. I haven't liked what I've seen from Snowspinner lately, but I've liked what I've seen in the past and I like his candidate statement. These two factors balance out and equal zero for me.
Hermione1980 23:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
neutral that sums up my feelings too.
BLkiss the lizard 01:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
I have a good amount of experience with the arbcom from the outside, and I feel confident saying that the single biggest thing it takes is wading through evidence pages - often confusingly ordered and worded evidence pages. It involves reading diffs, and a huge amount of dedication to piecing together what's going on.
This is a change from what the arbcom needed last year. Last year, the arbcom was dealing with cases like Lir, Plautus, and Irismeister regularly, and dragging at them. That's not the case this year - the last slam dunk malevolent user the arbcom dealt with was Plautus, which took them a week.
It doesn't take anyone special to ban Plautus or Lir - I doubt there's a person running in this election who wouldn't have done that. What we need are arbitrators who are willing and able to put in the commitment to the harder cases - to the ones that involve the well-meaning editors with a legitimate disagreement that need to be disentangled, not smashed with a banstick.
Different circumstances require different kinds of arbitrators. And I promise to be one of those different kinds of arbitrators. If elected, I promise to review evidence carefully, and to look at situations with the larger Wikipedia community in mind. Like it or not, arbcom decisions are cited as justifications in policy debates now, and the arbcom needs to be careful about what it says in light of that. A recent near-disaster is the Coolcat case, when the arbcom nearly made a ruling that could easily have been interpreted as shutting down informal mediation. I was one of the ones who pointed out that problem, and if elected, I intend to keep problems like that from happening - without abandoning the need for effective rulings that minimize the need for repeat cases.
Phil is abrasive, but he gets the job done. The only people he offends tend to be POV pushers or trolls.
Johnleemk |
Talk 02:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support --
Arwel (
talk) 02:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support Has an innate sense of doing the right thing and the courage of his convictions.
Rx StrangeLove 02:53, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support He is capable of playing a different role
Fred Bauder 03:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support.Calton |
Talk 03:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC). Change of vote. --
Calton |
Talk 00:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong support Snowspinner has long been Wikipeida's sword and shield defending encyclopedic standards from POV pushers and trolls.
172 04:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support -- disagree with thinking on policy and actions, but understand a consistent viewpoint and a feeling on what wikipedia should be.
Avriette 06:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Weak Support, controversial but a good user and seems like decent arbitration material.
Ral315(talk) 19:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Should be reserved for situations where morosity and stubbornness are the main ingredients to the arbitration case - cuts straight through the accumulated nonsense.
JFW |
T@lk 21:03, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support --
Carnildo 21:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Experience and statement outweighs any regrets about recent history (see list of oppose votes). —
Ian MankaQuestions? Talk to me! 20:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Someone mentioned abrasive, and that's exactly what the ArbCom needs: someone to tell it straight.
CernenXanthineKatrena 06:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose because of recent wheel wars. Unacceptable behavior for a future arbitrator, regardless of who was in the right.
Oleg Alexandrov (
talk) 00:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong Oppose per his actions at
WP:RFC/KM. He's basically just running to attempt to get more influence in his never ending crusade to get whatever he wants.
karmafist 01:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose<Snowspinner> Feed them. Then they cross the line and you can get rid of them. "Trolling for the forces of good," I call it. ... Getting my oppose vote is what I'd call it. --
Gmaxwell 03:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Zordrac does not have suffrage; his first edit was at 12:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC). —
Cryptic(talk) 04:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- per gmaxwell.
kmccoy(talk) 03:59, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose, too many confrontations; Arbcom should be about resolving disputes, not starting more. We need
bold editors, but not there. Crotalus horridus (
TALK •
CONTRIBS) 04:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose - involved in too many disputes. Ronline✉ 04:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose - Intention seem good but track record suggests too adversial for Arbcom. —the preceding
unsigned comment is byNovacatz (
talk •
contribs) 05:01, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Oppose No confidence in this editors abiltiy to check his ego at the Wiki door, so to speak. Too adversarial, too many problems with other editors.
Hamster Sandwich 05:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose Somewhat reluctantly.
why? ++
Lar:
t/
c 09:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Too quick to buck consensus, not wary enough of ArbCom being used as a platform for ruling on policy. --
SCZenz 09:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Trifon Triantafillidis does not have suffrage; his first edit was at 09:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC) and he had only 26 edits as of 00:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC). (
caveats) —
Cryptic(talk) 15:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Very Strong Oppose Sorry but I must oppose. Snowspinner just does not show consistantly good judgement when it comes to interaction on WP.
ALKIVAR™ 13:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Sad oppose. History of vandal-fighting and troll-killing is solid, but too many recent wheel wars, too much unilaterial action without consensus, and too much
WP:IAR tips the scales into the oppose side. Sorry. Let's hope 2006 is better.
Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Too block-happy. See
this block, which was for a user who had made "personal attacks" only in the most loose interpretation possible. —
BrianSmithson 14:01, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose improper temperment. Would do poor work and make controversial matters only worse. Sorry.
Gator(talk) 14:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose, the remedies he has proposed in past cases are way too harsh. Also, lack of respect for community consensus.
Radiant_>|< 14:22, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Note, this was not me. --
Kbdank71 14:52, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose: this is supposed to be an arbitration committee. Let us not forget what the word is meant to mean... —
It's-is-not-a-genitive 15:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Recent wheel-warring leaves a bad taste in my mouth. howcheng {
chat} 18:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose --
BACbKA 22:28, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. (Note: Vote only reflects suitability of candidate to the role, and does not reflect overall contributions or personally.) -
Mailer Diablo 02:13, 11 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Vigorous Oppose. For many of the same reasons already mentioned. Confrontational, has a piling-on mentality and is arbitrary and unjust in the use of his admin authority.
deeceevoice 16:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. I have concerns about your methods of arbitrating as displayed on your talk page
Gnangarra 16:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose. He is controversial and for good reason. On repeated occassions he's blatantly violated Wikipedia policies to delete articles he didn't like which clearly didn't fall under speedy deletion criteria. In
WP:COMICS has explicitly stated that he personally is allowed to override consensus whenever he thinks the consensus is wrong. He's had a block on me reversed because it was a) obviously wrong and b) a complete conflict of interest (he refuses to even acknowledge the possibility of a conflict of interest). He has personally threatened to block me for simply inserting a straw poll on a talk page. Read
Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Snowspinner_2 for a good idea of how much he doesn't care about Wikipedia civility and no personal attacks policies despite strong enforcing them. In short, he rules with his temper and not in slightest bit with objectivity. His philosophy is "the ends justify the means and screw anyone who thinks otherwise" (see [
[2]]). SO many people know he his a problem and should have his admin privileges revoked, it's really just support from a few powerful admins, namely current arbitrators, that he hasn't.
Nathan J. Yoder 17:23, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Rest of comment moved to
talk page ++
Lar:
t/
c 17:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
oppose brought an essentially frivolous case before arbcom (without first filing RFC).
Derex 18:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Love the experience and the statement. Abhor the contentious tone in some of the 4 (!) RFCs this year. --
William Pietri 23:06, 14 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose. His recent behaviour is an abomination. Additionally, he thinks it perfectly ok to be one sided in arbitration decisions. --
Victim of signature fascism |
help remove biblecruft 19:00, 15 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Not the right place for this valued wikipedian.
Youngamerican 18:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- Frankly, he should be banned completely... proudly violates policy, gets in wheel wars, is completely the opposite of what we need.
DreamGuy 13:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose, Intellectually unqualified and the worst of roleplaying.
The Witch 15:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose from what i have seen creates problems. Not a calming influence.
David D.(Talk) 00:27, 18 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. After seeing his
Template:Expert recovery -- and his statement on TfD that he'll ignore the voter's will and impose his own bias, Wikipedia principles on verifiability and citation be damned -- I can't imagine how he'll be able to act fairly in a judgment role. --
Calton |
Talk 01:03, 18 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose Much like universities require publications for continuing tenure, Wikipedian admins should continue contributing to the articles. All I really see in your 500 most recent contributions are Wiki administrative business edits and very little, if any, edits on encyclopedia articles.
Author782 08:33, 20 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Kolokol does not have suffrage; he had only
144 edits as of 00:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC). (
caveats) —
Cryptic(talk) 11:56, 22 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Statement and questions show a good mind, but appears temperamantally unsuited. —
Josiah Rowe (
talk •
contribs) 07:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)reply
Neutral. I haven't liked what I've seen from Snowspinner lately, but I've liked what I've seen in the past and I like his candidate statement. These two factors balance out and equal zero for me.
Hermione1980 23:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)reply
neutral that sums up my feelings too.
BLkiss the lizard 01:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)reply