Though the following storms are somewhat notable, none of these have been expanded since the original author wrote it, and it seems highly unlikely that someone will take the time to find the needed information (outside the JTWC report). Examples of what I am referring to are;
Hurricanehink ( talk) 19:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, Typhoon Bess (1982) (which should really be at the main Typhoon Bess - but that's already at WP:RM) is a start-class article with not much info either. Does this deserve to stay either? 59 fatalities with low damage isn't all that notable except that it got retired, but back then many WPac storms got retired for nothing. – Ch acor 15:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I've added Kammuri to the list. There's only two paragraphs for impact, which can easily be copied and pasted into the season article. Hurricanehink ( talk) 20:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
This was PRODded by an anon for some reason when a merge discussion was getting underway. If this article doesn't need to be here, the information should probably be merged to International response to Hurricane Katrina. -- Core desat 21:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I merged it, and while looking through the Katrina articles I saw another one that could be merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Today I was reading over the wikiproject standards and added an exception to the dab rule that seems common: when there are just two storms of the same name, a dab page is not necessarily needed. See Hurricane Andrew. Coincidentally later today I stumbled across the Wilma DAB which is orphaned - nothing links to it or redirects to it. It is therefore useless as a DAB since nobody's gonna search for "Tropical Storm Wilma (disambiguation)". But I'm not sure what to do about it. This fits into the 2-name category as covered by Andrew, but since the 2 names are from different basins there's no possibility for confusion. For the moment I de-orphaned it by linking the Wilma article to it. It's likely that no disambiguation page is needed at all. Also possible is that the Hurricane Wilma article should have a {{ dablink}} at the top, but it will sound kind of silly to DAB a hurricane and a typhoon in this way. Perhaps the whole thing should just be merged into Wilma? But then what's to prevent that from being done with all other tc dab's? And how come Andrew doesn't link to Hurricane Andrew - and if it did, shouldn't it then also link to Hurricane Andrew (1986)? — jdorje ( talk) 04:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I know this might be controversial (with Melissa as a GA), but I can't stand seeing Melissa as a GA with only two paragraphs of info. This doesn't mean merge all of the non-notable articles at all. However, these two are really scraping at the bottom of the barrel. We don't need to have an article for every storm. IDK, those stick out to me a little bit. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:29, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
They both need to go.-- 72.193.254.254 ( talk) 14:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Category:Stub-Class Tropical cyclone articles consists mostly of Pacific typhoon seasons from 1945 to 1998, with the exception of 1939 Pacific typhoon season. To cut down on dozens of stubs, what does everybody think about merging them into lists of seasons, like 1950-1959 Pacific typhoon seasons? Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
This page is an unmitigated disaster. Pretty much we've been using it as a catch-all for any and all records affecting the Atlantic basin, but in so, it's lost its purpose. So, I recommend an inverse merger, a. k. a. a split into multiple pages. Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 22:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
There is minimal content. If no one wants to do anything with the article, I'll be merging it in the next few days. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 16:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Same as Jerry 07 above. I don't see the need to have an article for a weak tropical storm that only has storm history. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
The article concerns the same events as Tropical Storm Thelma. There is precedence to merge the disaster article to the storm article - The Mameyes disaster to Tropical Storm Isabel (1985). ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Tropical Depression Sixteen (2008) has a {{ mergeto}} template on it. It points here, so I guess I'll kick off the discussion. As we saw from Tropical Depression Ten (2007), landfalling Atlantic tropical depressions can easily support articles, and I see no reason for this one to be different. It should be expanded, not merged. Plasticup T/ C 11:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I archived this, as it has established notability, and the MH was sufficiently expanded. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
While the formatting of the article is good, and it is well-referenced, there is too little information there to justify a new article. If more is added, I might change my mind, but as it is it looks like a forever-doomed start class article. Good try, though, Storm05. -- Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Done. – Ch acor 07:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I have unmerged because we are in a era where every EPAC storm gets in article. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 23:04, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
No need for such a stubby article on a storm that never touched land. – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
The article was re-published today. I don't know why it was made in the first place, but there has been some effort to keep it. However, I still see no need for the article. It caused no impact (the little that's mentioned in the article is unsourced). The first two paragraphs of the SH are decent (though the first one has no source for the met. history prior to it forming), so those paragraphs could be integrated into the season article section. However, the third paragraph is very poorly written. Example: At 2 PM the NHC upgraded it to an 85 mph hurricane! Any thoughts? ♬♩
Hurricanehink (
talk) 19:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
The reason why there is an article because it is a the strongest storm off the season thats why there is an article for Elida, too.
Thats because Elida is in the stages that Hernan which is in the stages that Hernan was once was.Hernan did go through major editing that can be traced as far as August 8 when i posted a message stated that it in NEEDS an article now.-- Yellow Evan ( talk) 02:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The page has been fixed for the most part however I see a problem that is an image, should we use an image showing it under rapid intensification. mabey, if we solve this it could come a GA.-- 72.193.254.254 ( talk) 14:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Please merge. it's unnecessary to make such an article on a powerful hurricane that never affected any land or caused any fatalities. Unless. Unless the article is expanded majorly, I'm considering it for a merge.-- Renereynoso ( talk) 00:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Ultimately, it was re-created and kept. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
No content outside of the main article. It doesn't even have a real infobox. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 19:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I did not fully Copy Paste article i tried to organize it, and thats how i start all my main articles same thing with 2008's Boris
The article was merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Otis is unneeded.
It is ok.
It has been redirected, BTW. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 21:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps this should eventually get an article. Should we keep it in its current state? It's so short (with so little outside of SH) that it could easily be merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 23:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
-- Rose09 Rashmi Next 13:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
This article is nearing terrible. It's short, mostly unreferenced, and poorly written. We've merged it several times, only to have it unmerged by its creator. Thoughts? – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 11:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
i do not see one speling mistake.-- Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 13:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
It was recreated, and now it is a GA. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
The season article is pretty skin-and-bones, and I think all of the content here could fit there. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 14:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Hurricanehink this just made it on the did you know area? Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 14:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
This is how it would if we merge. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 15:08, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
I object. It would make the season article way too long for a section so knew and for its time period. 'Strong KEEP' Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 22:53, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
-- Kirk76 1854 Atlantic Hurricane Season 19:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
None of them are needed, and none of them are any good. Hurricane Max (2005), for example, is not at all needed; it is extremely short, and the overall writing is poor. As such, it should stay merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Max is notable for merging with Linda. Yellow Evan ( talk) 03:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Max isn't that notable for absorbing Linda, and even if it was, you cannot have an article that short and stubby. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Little content outside of the season article. – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
This is the worst article I have seen in a while, no offense to the creator, but this is useless, maybe after the TCR is out, but not now -- Kirk76 1966 Pacific Hurricane Season 01:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
At the minute Merge but if more infomation can be added within the next 24 hours then maybe it should be made. Jason Rees ( talk) 01:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Unmerged. I will add more info. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 14:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Juliancolton, the article is here for a reason. This is not how we do articles for every storm which I am trying to do. I will work on it this evening. Thats why i put the update template on. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 14:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I have been working on it.
Leave Message or
Yellow Evan home or
User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 02:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree. a main article would be Great! Unfortunately, i only have a couple of sentences of information.--
Renereynoso (
talk) 03:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
It remained merged, and that is the consensus for now. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
It appears the creator of the article has just reverting my merging of the article. It's a copy and paste of the season article, primarily. Need I say more? – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Give it a chance. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 00:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
This article is completely unneeded. The author refuses to listen to comments and suggestions of everyone (even when he solicits them) by creating lots of articles of extremely poor quality. Potapych ( talk) 04:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
We are doing articles for every storm. Atleaste let it stay because I do not want to confuse Keith Ediks Leave Message or Yellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 13:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Popping in really quickly - the storm is not forecast to impact land, so I strongly suggest the article be merged until, at the very least until after it dissipates, or, if it's even needed, then after the season is over. I don't know where this business arose that we are doing articles for every storm. IIRC, the consensus was to allow any storm to have an article, but that's contingent on information and being well-written. This article has neither. Yellow Evan, please don't be so quick to make new articles; there are enough articles you have made that still need to be cleaned up. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 13:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Should't this page be merged with WP:WPTC. Leave Message , Yellow Evan home , Sandbox Happy Veterans day
The article is fairly minimal. There's little info on most of the storms. Alternatively, we could try and decide what to do with the early EPAC seasons. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:07, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Expand In my opinion there is no need to merge; it should be easy to expand. The season was very notable (Dot made a Hawaiian landfall and the 1959 cane is the deadliest Pacific storm of all time). Some of the early EPAC season articles are good. The 1976 Pacific hurricane season is probably the best article. The section of Kathleen and Liza may need to be expanded, then we would have a great article. Leave Message , Yellow Evan home , User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox
Merge until someone finds sources. That region was poorly monitored before the satellite era. Potapych ( talk) 23:29, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
It's been merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
This is a copy and paste of the TCR ( I checked!) -- क्षेम्य Tranquility 20:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was to merge ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 04:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
First, it's blatantly short. More importantly, perhaps, is that the "hurricane" is only known because of one academic paper. Per WP:N, articles should have multiple sources, indeed it should have significant sources. I just did a Google search, and outside of this paper, I couldn't find any info on the storm. Also, I should note that there is no definitive proof the storm existed. It is surmised, based on meteorological observations, that it was a storm, but there isn't any definitive proof. It's short enough for it to be merged to the decadal season article. --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Stupid decision to merge this one. This hurricane was a rare phenomenon, just like the 1858 San Diego hurricane (an article, that is also based on a single scientific publications—so much for that argument). Also, that Vaquero et al. (2008) paper has been cited three times as of now (don't forget it is barely a year old), and no one disputed the existence of this hurricane. So much for User:Hurricanehink's claim that "there is no definitive proof the storm existed", because as a matter of fact, there isn't even a claim that this hurricane did not exist. Therefore, I propose to restore this article. -- bender235 ( talk) 23:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Just a note: when it was proposed for merger last time, 3 people agreed with the decision to merge. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 23:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Merge - Since their seems to be no other sources Jason Rees ( talk) 23:40, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was to merge Cyclone biskit 22:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
This was unmerged, and then unimproved. It could easily fit into a season article so at least one thing gets improvement. Potapych ( talk) 19:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Recently created. Not sure if we would want it for historical reasons or not, but it is only a copy of the season article. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
OK, merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 19:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was promoted to FA; merge discussion moot. – Juliancolton | Talk 03:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
While well-written, the article is rather short. The article could be merged quite easily into the season article, as I tested here; it is just barely longer than the infobox. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 00:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Keep the article , its longer than Hernan.-- Yellow Evan ( talk) 02:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No Consensus Jason Rees ( talk) 16:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC) I'm not sure if you ever read what people are saying, but can you please TRY to understand that when we give a recommendations it's best you follow them. We said not to make this article, yet you did. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 15:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was expanded – Juliancolton | Talk 03:38, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Normally I am not a fan of merging but when I try to expand the page for Lowell it keeps getting reverted. We should merge untill the NHC finishes the TCR (the NHC is doing and the land impacting storms first).-- Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 15:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
No one is letting me add anything. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 00:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Marco was shorter lived than Lowell. It even has longer storm history. Strong merge. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 03:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I have finished it. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 15:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was expanded – Juliancolton | Talk 03:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Another Hernan. A copy and paste of the season article, albeit with a brand-new one-sentence lead. – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
let it stay.-- Yellow Evan ( talk) 18:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was merged ---- Ir di ce nt 23 23:13, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Another old article that no one has touched. Small impact, and while it's viewed slightly more often than the last one, it is still very short, and it could fit in its entirety in the season article. --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Fails WP:N, as there are most definitely not a significant number of sources on the system. It didn't affect land, so I could find no mention of the storm in any newspaper articles, unlike more recent fish storms. As met. histories aren't sufficient material to justify an article's existence, and as the section in the season article could handle more info, I propose a merge. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 06:59, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, the WPTC straw poll indicated that most people do not think that all storms in this time period should get articles. For those who voted keep, does that affect your opinion of Emilia? --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Though the following storms are somewhat notable, none of these have been expanded since the original author wrote it, and it seems highly unlikely that someone will take the time to find the needed information (outside the JTWC report). Examples of what I am referring to are;
Hurricanehink ( talk) 19:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, Typhoon Bess (1982) (which should really be at the main Typhoon Bess - but that's already at WP:RM) is a start-class article with not much info either. Does this deserve to stay either? 59 fatalities with low damage isn't all that notable except that it got retired, but back then many WPac storms got retired for nothing. – Ch acor 15:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I've added Kammuri to the list. There's only two paragraphs for impact, which can easily be copied and pasted into the season article. Hurricanehink ( talk) 20:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
This was PRODded by an anon for some reason when a merge discussion was getting underway. If this article doesn't need to be here, the information should probably be merged to International response to Hurricane Katrina. -- Core desat 21:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I merged it, and while looking through the Katrina articles I saw another one that could be merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Today I was reading over the wikiproject standards and added an exception to the dab rule that seems common: when there are just two storms of the same name, a dab page is not necessarily needed. See Hurricane Andrew. Coincidentally later today I stumbled across the Wilma DAB which is orphaned - nothing links to it or redirects to it. It is therefore useless as a DAB since nobody's gonna search for "Tropical Storm Wilma (disambiguation)". But I'm not sure what to do about it. This fits into the 2-name category as covered by Andrew, but since the 2 names are from different basins there's no possibility for confusion. For the moment I de-orphaned it by linking the Wilma article to it. It's likely that no disambiguation page is needed at all. Also possible is that the Hurricane Wilma article should have a {{ dablink}} at the top, but it will sound kind of silly to DAB a hurricane and a typhoon in this way. Perhaps the whole thing should just be merged into Wilma? But then what's to prevent that from being done with all other tc dab's? And how come Andrew doesn't link to Hurricane Andrew - and if it did, shouldn't it then also link to Hurricane Andrew (1986)? — jdorje ( talk) 04:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I know this might be controversial (with Melissa as a GA), but I can't stand seeing Melissa as a GA with only two paragraphs of info. This doesn't mean merge all of the non-notable articles at all. However, these two are really scraping at the bottom of the barrel. We don't need to have an article for every storm. IDK, those stick out to me a little bit. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:29, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
They both need to go.-- 72.193.254.254 ( talk) 14:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Category:Stub-Class Tropical cyclone articles consists mostly of Pacific typhoon seasons from 1945 to 1998, with the exception of 1939 Pacific typhoon season. To cut down on dozens of stubs, what does everybody think about merging them into lists of seasons, like 1950-1959 Pacific typhoon seasons? Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
This page is an unmitigated disaster. Pretty much we've been using it as a catch-all for any and all records affecting the Atlantic basin, but in so, it's lost its purpose. So, I recommend an inverse merger, a. k. a. a split into multiple pages. Titoxd( ?!? - cool stuff) 22:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
There is minimal content. If no one wants to do anything with the article, I'll be merging it in the next few days. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 16:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Same as Jerry 07 above. I don't see the need to have an article for a weak tropical storm that only has storm history. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
The article concerns the same events as Tropical Storm Thelma. There is precedence to merge the disaster article to the storm article - The Mameyes disaster to Tropical Storm Isabel (1985). ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Tropical Depression Sixteen (2008) has a {{ mergeto}} template on it. It points here, so I guess I'll kick off the discussion. As we saw from Tropical Depression Ten (2007), landfalling Atlantic tropical depressions can easily support articles, and I see no reason for this one to be different. It should be expanded, not merged. Plasticup T/ C 11:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I archived this, as it has established notability, and the MH was sufficiently expanded. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
While the formatting of the article is good, and it is well-referenced, there is too little information there to justify a new article. If more is added, I might change my mind, but as it is it looks like a forever-doomed start class article. Good try, though, Storm05. -- Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Done. – Ch acor 07:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I have unmerged because we are in a era where every EPAC storm gets in article. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 23:04, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
No need for such a stubby article on a storm that never touched land. – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
The article was re-published today. I don't know why it was made in the first place, but there has been some effort to keep it. However, I still see no need for the article. It caused no impact (the little that's mentioned in the article is unsourced). The first two paragraphs of the SH are decent (though the first one has no source for the met. history prior to it forming), so those paragraphs could be integrated into the season article section. However, the third paragraph is very poorly written. Example: At 2 PM the NHC upgraded it to an 85 mph hurricane! Any thoughts? ♬♩
Hurricanehink (
talk) 19:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
The reason why there is an article because it is a the strongest storm off the season thats why there is an article for Elida, too.
Thats because Elida is in the stages that Hernan which is in the stages that Hernan was once was.Hernan did go through major editing that can be traced as far as August 8 when i posted a message stated that it in NEEDS an article now.-- Yellow Evan ( talk) 02:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The page has been fixed for the most part however I see a problem that is an image, should we use an image showing it under rapid intensification. mabey, if we solve this it could come a GA.-- 72.193.254.254 ( talk) 14:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Please merge. it's unnecessary to make such an article on a powerful hurricane that never affected any land or caused any fatalities. Unless. Unless the article is expanded majorly, I'm considering it for a merge.-- Renereynoso ( talk) 00:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Ultimately, it was re-created and kept. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
No content outside of the main article. It doesn't even have a real infobox. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 19:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I did not fully Copy Paste article i tried to organize it, and thats how i start all my main articles same thing with 2008's Boris
The article was merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Otis is unneeded.
It is ok.
It has been redirected, BTW. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 21:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps this should eventually get an article. Should we keep it in its current state? It's so short (with so little outside of SH) that it could easily be merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 23:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
-- Rose09 Rashmi Next 13:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
This article is nearing terrible. It's short, mostly unreferenced, and poorly written. We've merged it several times, only to have it unmerged by its creator. Thoughts? – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 11:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
i do not see one speling mistake.-- Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 13:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
It was recreated, and now it is a GA. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
The season article is pretty skin-and-bones, and I think all of the content here could fit there. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 14:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Hurricanehink this just made it on the did you know area? Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 14:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
This is how it would if we merge. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 15:08, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
I object. It would make the season article way too long for a section so knew and for its time period. 'Strong KEEP' Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 22:53, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
-- Kirk76 1854 Atlantic Hurricane Season 19:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
None of them are needed, and none of them are any good. Hurricane Max (2005), for example, is not at all needed; it is extremely short, and the overall writing is poor. As such, it should stay merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Max is notable for merging with Linda. Yellow Evan ( talk) 03:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Max isn't that notable for absorbing Linda, and even if it was, you cannot have an article that short and stubby. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Little content outside of the season article. – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
This is the worst article I have seen in a while, no offense to the creator, but this is useless, maybe after the TCR is out, but not now -- Kirk76 1966 Pacific Hurricane Season 01:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
At the minute Merge but if more infomation can be added within the next 24 hours then maybe it should be made. Jason Rees ( talk) 01:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Unmerged. I will add more info. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 14:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Juliancolton, the article is here for a reason. This is not how we do articles for every storm which I am trying to do. I will work on it this evening. Thats why i put the update template on. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 14:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I have been working on it.
Leave Message or
Yellow Evan home or
User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 02:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree. a main article would be Great! Unfortunately, i only have a couple of sentences of information.--
Renereynoso (
talk) 03:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
It remained merged, and that is the consensus for now. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
It appears the creator of the article has just reverting my merging of the article. It's a copy and paste of the season article, primarily. Need I say more? – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Give it a chance. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 00:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
This article is completely unneeded. The author refuses to listen to comments and suggestions of everyone (even when he solicits them) by creating lots of articles of extremely poor quality. Potapych ( talk) 04:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
We are doing articles for every storm. Atleaste let it stay because I do not want to confuse Keith Ediks Leave Message or Yellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 13:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Popping in really quickly - the storm is not forecast to impact land, so I strongly suggest the article be merged until, at the very least until after it dissipates, or, if it's even needed, then after the season is over. I don't know where this business arose that we are doing articles for every storm. IIRC, the consensus was to allow any storm to have an article, but that's contingent on information and being well-written. This article has neither. Yellow Evan, please don't be so quick to make new articles; there are enough articles you have made that still need to be cleaned up. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 13:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Should't this page be merged with WP:WPTC. Leave Message , Yellow Evan home , Sandbox Happy Veterans day
The article is fairly minimal. There's little info on most of the storms. Alternatively, we could try and decide what to do with the early EPAC seasons. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:07, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Expand In my opinion there is no need to merge; it should be easy to expand. The season was very notable (Dot made a Hawaiian landfall and the 1959 cane is the deadliest Pacific storm of all time). Some of the early EPAC season articles are good. The 1976 Pacific hurricane season is probably the best article. The section of Kathleen and Liza may need to be expanded, then we would have a great article. Leave Message , Yellow Evan home , User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox
Merge until someone finds sources. That region was poorly monitored before the satellite era. Potapych ( talk) 23:29, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
It's been merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
This is a copy and paste of the TCR ( I checked!) -- क्षेम्य Tranquility 20:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was to merge ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 04:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
First, it's blatantly short. More importantly, perhaps, is that the "hurricane" is only known because of one academic paper. Per WP:N, articles should have multiple sources, indeed it should have significant sources. I just did a Google search, and outside of this paper, I couldn't find any info on the storm. Also, I should note that there is no definitive proof the storm existed. It is surmised, based on meteorological observations, that it was a storm, but there isn't any definitive proof. It's short enough for it to be merged to the decadal season article. --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Stupid decision to merge this one. This hurricane was a rare phenomenon, just like the 1858 San Diego hurricane (an article, that is also based on a single scientific publications—so much for that argument). Also, that Vaquero et al. (2008) paper has been cited three times as of now (don't forget it is barely a year old), and no one disputed the existence of this hurricane. So much for User:Hurricanehink's claim that "there is no definitive proof the storm existed", because as a matter of fact, there isn't even a claim that this hurricane did not exist. Therefore, I propose to restore this article. -- bender235 ( talk) 23:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Just a note: when it was proposed for merger last time, 3 people agreed with the decision to merge. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 23:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Merge - Since their seems to be no other sources Jason Rees ( talk) 23:40, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was to merge Cyclone biskit 22:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
This was unmerged, and then unimproved. It could easily fit into a season article so at least one thing gets improvement. Potapych ( talk) 19:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Recently created. Not sure if we would want it for historical reasons or not, but it is only a copy of the season article. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
OK, merged. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 19:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was promoted to FA; merge discussion moot. – Juliancolton | Talk 03:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
While well-written, the article is rather short. The article could be merged quite easily into the season article, as I tested here; it is just barely longer than the infobox. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 00:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Keep the article , its longer than Hernan.-- Yellow Evan ( talk) 02:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No Consensus Jason Rees ( talk) 16:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC) I'm not sure if you ever read what people are saying, but can you please TRY to understand that when we give a recommendations it's best you follow them. We said not to make this article, yet you did. Cyclonebiskit ( talk) 15:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was expanded – Juliancolton | Talk 03:38, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Normally I am not a fan of merging but when I try to expand the page for Lowell it keeps getting reverted. We should merge untill the NHC finishes the TCR (the NHC is doing and the land impacting storms first).-- Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 15:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
No one is letting me add anything. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 00:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Marco was shorter lived than Lowell. It even has longer storm history. Strong merge. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 03:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I have finished it. Leave Message or Yellow Evan home 15:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was expanded – Juliancolton | Talk 03:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Another Hernan. A copy and paste of the season article, albeit with a brand-new one-sentence lead. – Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
let it stay.-- Yellow Evan ( talk) 18:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was merged ---- Ir di ce nt 23 23:13, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Another old article that no one has touched. Small impact, and while it's viewed slightly more often than the last one, it is still very short, and it could fit in its entirety in the season article. --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 03:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Fails WP:N, as there are most definitely not a significant number of sources on the system. It didn't affect land, so I could find no mention of the storm in any newspaper articles, unlike more recent fish storms. As met. histories aren't sufficient material to justify an article's existence, and as the section in the season article could handle more info, I propose a merge. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 06:59, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, the WPTC straw poll indicated that most people do not think that all storms in this time period should get articles. For those who voted keep, does that affect your opinion of Emilia? --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 17:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)