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Doesn't appear to have received the requisite depth of coverage for organisations. There are quite a few passing mentions which don't constitute significant coverage turned up by a source search such as this, and a few passing mentions in books but that's it. It looks like an WP:NCORP failure. SITH (talk) 12:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Terrorism in Greece. Anyone interested in merging is free to do so as the page history is being preserved. Ad Orientem ( talk) 02:10, 14 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Black Star (anarchist group)

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Sorry I am completely unfamiliar with anarchism and its groups. Googling on net about it, didn't provide any results, so I guess it is safe to delete it. --- SilentResident ( talk ✉ | contribs ✎) 20:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC) reply
Redirect per Czar. I feel this is a fair compromise. It could be marked with an Rcat that it has potential. I would say that it is fair enough to say there is enough WP:RS to justify its inclusion there. I don't appreciate the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS arguments being made to justify its full inclusion as an article, however. – MJLTalk 14:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • It existed:
  • Greek guerrillas attack Italian official's car,BBC Monitoring Newsfile; London [London]17 Aug 2000: 1. " The Greek guerrilla Black Star (Mavro Asteri) group has set fire to a car belonging to an Italian embassy official in Athens, the Italian news agency ANSA reported on Thursday, quoting Greek police. The attack took place at 0230 local time on Thursday in the residential district of Vouliagmeni, and responsibility for the attack was claimed shortly afterwards in a phone call to a newspaper `Eleftherotypia'. The car belonged to Antonella Tassi, an official at the Italian Consulate in Athens, and was parked near her home. ANSA described Mavro Asteri as a "Left-wing anarchist group... one of the myriad terrorist groups active in Athens and in the region of Attica in the form of arson attacks." The left-wing `Eleftherotypia' is the newspaper which on 9th June received a message from the most feared guerrilla group in Greece, 17th November, claiming responsibility for the killing of the British defence attache in Athens, Gen Stephen Saunders. Credit: ANSA news agency database, Rome, in Italian 17 Aug 00 181 ANSA news agency database, Rome, in Italian 17 Aug 00/BBC Monitoring/(c) BBC [1] E.M.Gregory ( talk) 22:40, 6 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Keep. I did a google books search under the term "Mavro Asteri" [2] and it come up in scholarly books on terrorism. RS sources cite it and can be used for the article. Resnjari ( talk) 07:28, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
its only three sentences about a single terror act. Nothing more. Αντικαθεστωτικός ( talk) 07:45, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
There are heaps of articles about single terror attacks by armed groups on Wikipedia. So for this article to be deleted does not suffice. Anyway the sources are RS, some being reports from the US government. Now the previous search i did was in the English language (i.e using the Latin alphabet), but writing the group's name in the Greek alphabet yields other content like: [3]. Also in the Terrorism in Greece article, there are other small groups who have done terror acts that have their own article and few sources. Here as i posted there is sufficient amount of RS sources. Its just that no one has placed them yet into the article. Resnjari ( talk) 08:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect to Terrorism in Greece where it can be covered in summary style, per the above Google Books search. Redirection is a preferable alternative to deletion. I'm not seeing reams of English-language or immediately usable content, so it would be sufficient to convert this stub (dropping its unverifiable short footnotes) to a listing in Terrorism in Greece's list. czar 12:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
There doesn't have to be "reams" of sources, all there has to be is RS sources. They do come up when one does a google books search, however i understand that that those sources refer to a specific act of terror by the group or other acts like targeting US and Jewish property in the country. Also there are a few other articles ( Revolutionary People's Struggle, Revolutionary Nuclei, Sect of Revolutionaries) linked to the Terrorism in Greece page and have few less footnotes like here. If where going to merge this article into the main Greek terrorism article with redirects, they also should be up for consideration for a merger into the main Terrorism in Greece article so we don't have to deal with multiple threads like this. Resnjari ( talk) 13:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
User:Resnjari Do you have details - dates, names of the person or building targeted - by "Black Star" terrorism? I could run some searches if I had such details. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 18:46, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
What comes up in the RS is that they were involved in low level terrorism with high level targets, like burning cars of foreign diplomats or other property damage for political purposes. The google search yielded RS on the Italian diplomat car incident [4]. Apotitis, a scholar on Anarchism cites they did car burnings belonging to US diplomats and targeted pro-Zionist offices in Greece [5] -no one was ever caught from the group and may be a factor for the limited amount of information available. Anyway these are sources from English, in Greek i don't know what's out there. Greek speakers here and those who know about Anarchism in the country could assist the thread about sources. Resnjari ( talk) 06:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC) reply
these three organisations have/had major activity in Greece. Αντικαθεστωτικός ( talk) 13:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
But the articles are small like this one. If i or any other editor adds the refs from the RS sources to the article then content wise it still will be a similar size to those other small articles on terrorist groups in Greece. Why then have those separate in their own right while this one is done away with a merger (this group, like the others have also been involved in violent acts)? Resnjari ( talk) 16:10, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
You have right with your critism about the other articles. But we known very well that these organisations are a major topic in Greece. Maybe we should extend them. S.R  has assassinated people. Ela was the most massive greek terrorist group etc. Black star was nothing. There are hundreds of this kind of organisations with simple car burnings. I don't insist in any case. Αντικαθεστωτικός ( talk) 16:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC). reply
Yes, yes, fine about making them bigger, i'm not against that, but few editors if at all have bothered to expand them with two of those articles existing for more then a decade and one for about 2 years and a half (see their page edit histories). So my point is well might as well then incorporate them into the larger article and if editors later make those sections bigger they can split it off into a separate article through one of the redirects. Otherwise it makes no sense to merge one of similar size and keep the other 3 separate of similar size as articles. Resnjari ( talk) 17:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
@ Resnjari, as alluded above, we call this an " other stuff" argument because we only address one article at a time. There are many articles that warrant attention, but we judge each on its own merits. The other three organizations that you mention may each very well end up merged, but in the case under discussion, if all we reasonably have as source material is a few passing mentions in Google Books snippets, then we hardly have enough material with which an encyclopedia article can do justice to the topic. With a redirect, the page history remains, and we can always restore/expand the content as needed. Also, the three discussants below this comment all read Greek and can help if you're looking for more Greek sources. czar 01:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
I'm ok with a merge to the Terrorism page. The group did exist and was involved acts of terrorism. Resnjari ( talk) 16:10, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. King of ♠ 01:56, 27 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Democratic Freedom Caucus

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Article almost exclusively links to the organization’s own web page and does not appear to have any elected officers at any level of government. Toa Nidhiki05 19:15, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Keep – a lot of water has gone over the bridge since this topic was deleted in 2006. E.g., a check on references does provide enough WP:RS to establish Notability. (And I wonder how getting "elected officers" is a criteria for notability.) – S. Rich ( talk) 20:09, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply
Comment - Which sources are you referring to? Every source except for three go to the website for the organization, while the other three go to what appear to be internet blogs. There aren’t any notable members other than a former county councilman in St. Louis County, which is an extremely low bar. There’s very little to indicate this organization is even remotely notable. Toa Nidhiki05 20:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete Because I had never heard of it, and sourcing on page is almost all PRIMARY, I ran some searches. But very little came up, and most of the handful of hits were mere mentions. If someone can source it properly, feel free to ping me to reconsider. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 22:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. Article mainly contains partisan sources. -- Walk Like an Egyptian ( talk) 00:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC); edited 05:30, 20 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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Keep I see no justifiable reason to delete this article. Just because most Americans have never heard of it doesn't mean we should delete the article. Most Americans have never heard of James K. Polk either ... Necropolis Hill ( talk) 02:20, 16 March 2019 (UTC) reply
@ Necropolis Hill: - this isn't actually a reason (or certainly no more than an ILIKEIT reason). Articles don't have a presumption of retention - !votes need to demonstrate a reason. Nosebagbear ( talk) 20:45, 26 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The nominator seems to have an agenda--he not only has several conservative userboxes on his userpage, he has a pattern of editing Wikipedia in ways that reflect a partisan bias. Take a look at his contributions. The Democratic Freedom Caucus just seems to be his most recent political target since moving on from Ilhan Omar. If deletion is to be considered, that process shouldn't be initiated by someone whose motives are so clearly questionable. But the group is notable enough to have entries in politics-specific wikis, including an in-depth entry at Daily Kos's wiki http://www.dkosopedia.com/static/d/e/m/Democratic_Freedom_Caucus_f8c6.html. 2600:100D:B10C:D47E:1BB8:B5CE:54B0:3F ( talk) 05:54, 16 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Note This is the first edit this IP has made. Toa Nidhiki05 16:20, 16 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Note True. But does it matter? Anyone can easily check for themselves. For whatever reason, Nidhiki05 decided not to say anything that actually addresses the points (not even to deny them!), but instead focuses on this. 2600:100D:B165:1AC7:8CFC:CB0:8C78:F9A1 ( talk) 01:31, 17 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    • Note This is this IP’s first edit too, and I don’t respond to unfounded personal attacks. Toa Nidhiki05 02:17, 17 March 2019 (UTC) reply
      Note Yes, there's not much of a point in creating an account given how rarely I edit, and I'm using a cellular connection without a static IP. You've proposed to delete a page that's been on Wikipedia for almost a decade, so it's appropriate for people to ask why this process has been started in the first place. Others can consider the points I mentioned, look into them, and make up their own minds about whether the concerns are unfounded or not. 2600:100D:B15F:E6BA:8C7A:990:2577:30B8 ( talk) 03:02, 17 March 2019 (UTC) reply

‘’’NOTE’’’The guy proposing this for deletion is trying to remove references to Libertarian Democrats on Wikipedia. He previously deleted referenced material about them on the Party’s Wikipedia page and claimed that they aren’t notable. Necropolis Hill ( talk) 14:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Reply - Incorrect. I removed your addition of this organization as a faction on the Democratic Party page, which has been rejected before. This time, I looked at the page and noticed this particular organization doesn’t meet the standard for notability and had previously been deleted for that reason. I’ve made no other edits on the subject of libertarian Democrats AFAIK. Toa Nidhiki05 15:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete There is no coverage of this organization in mainstream media hence it lacks notability. TFD ( talk) 16:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Possible keep - I saw some references to it in Google News. But if not then let's look at redirecting the page to Libertarian Democrat or something. The history of this article can then be preserved. Karl Twist ( talk) 12:05, 19 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show it passes WP:GNG or WP:ORGDEPTH. Onel5969 TT me 14:34, 19 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete this advertisement. Trillfendi ( talk) 20:20, 19 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, due to some new info and the fact that Democrat Mike Bozarth has been elected to the St. Joseph city council, I would strengthen by vote of Possible keep to a Keep. Karl Twist ( talk) 10:26, 22 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Comment It’s worth noting that Mike Bozarth was elected to one term nearly ten years agao (2006-2010) and is deceased. Toa Nidhiki05 12:13, 22 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Reply - Yes Mike Bozarth has passed away all those years ago. I still stand by my changing of Possible keep to Keep. Actually he may have passed away in 2015 which is 4 years ago.
    See News-PressNOW.com, Oct. 14, 2015 - Liberty movement lost a friend
    He must have passed away not long after he received the Karl Wetzel Award for Lifetime Achievement for his over thirty years of activism in support of the Libertarian Party.
    See I ndependent Political Report' - Missouri LP 2015 State Convention Wrap Up, New Officers Elected By Cisse Spragins, Immediate Past Chair
    So he's worth noting.
    Thanks Karl Twist ( talk) 12:52, 22 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Have a look at the sourcing. -- Somedifferentstuff ( talk) 11:09, 23 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete promotional article, fails WP:GNG (and not sure if WP:NORG applies but that too.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SportingFlyer ( talkcontribs) 01.33, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment to the above. It's not a promotional article! It just needs a lot more work on it. Karl Twist ( talk) 08:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 18:45, 26 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Robert Tingle

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Failed candidate for public office with little coverage. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL.

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  • Delete - fails NPOL and certainly doesn't satisfy consensus on other aspects. With 2 senate elections, there isn't a "biggest election" to redirect to. As a side note, the 2008 section actually reads as if it was written by the other side. Nosebagbear ( talk) 22:46, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Anarchist Party of Canada

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Doesn't appear to have received the requisite depth of coverage for organisations. There are quite a few passing mentions which don't constitute significant coverage turned up by a source search such as this, and a few passing mentions in books but that's it. It looks like an WP:NCORP failure. SITH (talk) 12:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Terrorism in Greece. Anyone interested in merging is free to do so as the page history is being preserved. Ad Orientem ( talk) 02:10, 14 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Black Star (anarchist group)

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Sorry I am completely unfamiliar with anarchism and its groups. Googling on net about it, didn't provide any results, so I guess it is safe to delete it. --- SilentResident ( talk ✉ | contribs ✎) 20:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC) reply
Redirect per Czar. I feel this is a fair compromise. It could be marked with an Rcat that it has potential. I would say that it is fair enough to say there is enough WP:RS to justify its inclusion there. I don't appreciate the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS arguments being made to justify its full inclusion as an article, however. – MJLTalk 14:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • It existed:
  • Greek guerrillas attack Italian official's car,BBC Monitoring Newsfile; London [London]17 Aug 2000: 1. " The Greek guerrilla Black Star (Mavro Asteri) group has set fire to a car belonging to an Italian embassy official in Athens, the Italian news agency ANSA reported on Thursday, quoting Greek police. The attack took place at 0230 local time on Thursday in the residential district of Vouliagmeni, and responsibility for the attack was claimed shortly afterwards in a phone call to a newspaper `Eleftherotypia'. The car belonged to Antonella Tassi, an official at the Italian Consulate in Athens, and was parked near her home. ANSA described Mavro Asteri as a "Left-wing anarchist group... one of the myriad terrorist groups active in Athens and in the region of Attica in the form of arson attacks." The left-wing `Eleftherotypia' is the newspaper which on 9th June received a message from the most feared guerrilla group in Greece, 17th November, claiming responsibility for the killing of the British defence attache in Athens, Gen Stephen Saunders. Credit: ANSA news agency database, Rome, in Italian 17 Aug 00 181 ANSA news agency database, Rome, in Italian 17 Aug 00/BBC Monitoring/(c) BBC [1] E.M.Gregory ( talk) 22:40, 6 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Keep. I did a google books search under the term "Mavro Asteri" [2] and it come up in scholarly books on terrorism. RS sources cite it and can be used for the article. Resnjari ( talk) 07:28, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
its only three sentences about a single terror act. Nothing more. Αντικαθεστωτικός ( talk) 07:45, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
There are heaps of articles about single terror attacks by armed groups on Wikipedia. So for this article to be deleted does not suffice. Anyway the sources are RS, some being reports from the US government. Now the previous search i did was in the English language (i.e using the Latin alphabet), but writing the group's name in the Greek alphabet yields other content like: [3]. Also in the Terrorism in Greece article, there are other small groups who have done terror acts that have their own article and few sources. Here as i posted there is sufficient amount of RS sources. Its just that no one has placed them yet into the article. Resnjari ( talk) 08:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect to Terrorism in Greece where it can be covered in summary style, per the above Google Books search. Redirection is a preferable alternative to deletion. I'm not seeing reams of English-language or immediately usable content, so it would be sufficient to convert this stub (dropping its unverifiable short footnotes) to a listing in Terrorism in Greece's list. czar 12:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
There doesn't have to be "reams" of sources, all there has to be is RS sources. They do come up when one does a google books search, however i understand that that those sources refer to a specific act of terror by the group or other acts like targeting US and Jewish property in the country. Also there are a few other articles ( Revolutionary People's Struggle, Revolutionary Nuclei, Sect of Revolutionaries) linked to the Terrorism in Greece page and have few less footnotes like here. If where going to merge this article into the main Greek terrorism article with redirects, they also should be up for consideration for a merger into the main Terrorism in Greece article so we don't have to deal with multiple threads like this. Resnjari ( talk) 13:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
User:Resnjari Do you have details - dates, names of the person or building targeted - by "Black Star" terrorism? I could run some searches if I had such details. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 18:46, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
What comes up in the RS is that they were involved in low level terrorism with high level targets, like burning cars of foreign diplomats or other property damage for political purposes. The google search yielded RS on the Italian diplomat car incident [4]. Apotitis, a scholar on Anarchism cites they did car burnings belonging to US diplomats and targeted pro-Zionist offices in Greece [5] -no one was ever caught from the group and may be a factor for the limited amount of information available. Anyway these are sources from English, in Greek i don't know what's out there. Greek speakers here and those who know about Anarchism in the country could assist the thread about sources. Resnjari ( talk) 06:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC) reply
these three organisations have/had major activity in Greece. Αντικαθεστωτικός ( talk) 13:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
But the articles are small like this one. If i or any other editor adds the refs from the RS sources to the article then content wise it still will be a similar size to those other small articles on terrorist groups in Greece. Why then have those separate in their own right while this one is done away with a merger (this group, like the others have also been involved in violent acts)? Resnjari ( talk) 16:10, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
You have right with your critism about the other articles. But we known very well that these organisations are a major topic in Greece. Maybe we should extend them. S.R  has assassinated people. Ela was the most massive greek terrorist group etc. Black star was nothing. There are hundreds of this kind of organisations with simple car burnings. I don't insist in any case. Αντικαθεστωτικός ( talk) 16:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC). reply
Yes, yes, fine about making them bigger, i'm not against that, but few editors if at all have bothered to expand them with two of those articles existing for more then a decade and one for about 2 years and a half (see their page edit histories). So my point is well might as well then incorporate them into the larger article and if editors later make those sections bigger they can split it off into a separate article through one of the redirects. Otherwise it makes no sense to merge one of similar size and keep the other 3 separate of similar size as articles. Resnjari ( talk) 17:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC) reply
@ Resnjari, as alluded above, we call this an " other stuff" argument because we only address one article at a time. There are many articles that warrant attention, but we judge each on its own merits. The other three organizations that you mention may each very well end up merged, but in the case under discussion, if all we reasonably have as source material is a few passing mentions in Google Books snippets, then we hardly have enough material with which an encyclopedia article can do justice to the topic. With a redirect, the page history remains, and we can always restore/expand the content as needed. Also, the three discussants below this comment all read Greek and can help if you're looking for more Greek sources. czar 01:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
I'm ok with a merge to the Terrorism page. The group did exist and was involved acts of terrorism. Resnjari ( talk) 16:10, 9 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. King of ♠ 01:56, 27 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Democratic Freedom Caucus

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Article almost exclusively links to the organization’s own web page and does not appear to have any elected officers at any level of government. Toa Nidhiki05 19:15, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Keep – a lot of water has gone over the bridge since this topic was deleted in 2006. E.g., a check on references does provide enough WP:RS to establish Notability. (And I wonder how getting "elected officers" is a criteria for notability.) – S. Rich ( talk) 20:09, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply
Comment - Which sources are you referring to? Every source except for three go to the website for the organization, while the other three go to what appear to be internet blogs. There aren’t any notable members other than a former county councilman in St. Louis County, which is an extremely low bar. There’s very little to indicate this organization is even remotely notable. Toa Nidhiki05 20:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete Because I had never heard of it, and sourcing on page is almost all PRIMARY, I ran some searches. But very little came up, and most of the handful of hits were mere mentions. If someone can source it properly, feel free to ping me to reconsider. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 22:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. Article mainly contains partisan sources. -- Walk Like an Egyptian ( talk) 00:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC); edited 05:30, 20 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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Keep I see no justifiable reason to delete this article. Just because most Americans have never heard of it doesn't mean we should delete the article. Most Americans have never heard of James K. Polk either ... Necropolis Hill ( talk) 02:20, 16 March 2019 (UTC) reply
@ Necropolis Hill: - this isn't actually a reason (or certainly no more than an ILIKEIT reason). Articles don't have a presumption of retention - !votes need to demonstrate a reason. Nosebagbear ( talk) 20:45, 26 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The nominator seems to have an agenda--he not only has several conservative userboxes on his userpage, he has a pattern of editing Wikipedia in ways that reflect a partisan bias. Take a look at his contributions. The Democratic Freedom Caucus just seems to be his most recent political target since moving on from Ilhan Omar. If deletion is to be considered, that process shouldn't be initiated by someone whose motives are so clearly questionable. But the group is notable enough to have entries in politics-specific wikis, including an in-depth entry at Daily Kos's wiki http://www.dkosopedia.com/static/d/e/m/Democratic_Freedom_Caucus_f8c6.html. 2600:100D:B10C:D47E:1BB8:B5CE:54B0:3F ( talk) 05:54, 16 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Note This is the first edit this IP has made. Toa Nidhiki05 16:20, 16 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Note True. But does it matter? Anyone can easily check for themselves. For whatever reason, Nidhiki05 decided not to say anything that actually addresses the points (not even to deny them!), but instead focuses on this. 2600:100D:B165:1AC7:8CFC:CB0:8C78:F9A1 ( talk) 01:31, 17 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    • Note This is this IP’s first edit too, and I don’t respond to unfounded personal attacks. Toa Nidhiki05 02:17, 17 March 2019 (UTC) reply
      Note Yes, there's not much of a point in creating an account given how rarely I edit, and I'm using a cellular connection without a static IP. You've proposed to delete a page that's been on Wikipedia for almost a decade, so it's appropriate for people to ask why this process has been started in the first place. Others can consider the points I mentioned, look into them, and make up their own minds about whether the concerns are unfounded or not. 2600:100D:B15F:E6BA:8C7A:990:2577:30B8 ( talk) 03:02, 17 March 2019 (UTC) reply

‘’’NOTE’’’The guy proposing this for deletion is trying to remove references to Libertarian Democrats on Wikipedia. He previously deleted referenced material about them on the Party’s Wikipedia page and claimed that they aren’t notable. Necropolis Hill ( talk) 14:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Reply - Incorrect. I removed your addition of this organization as a faction on the Democratic Party page, which has been rejected before. This time, I looked at the page and noticed this particular organization doesn’t meet the standard for notability and had previously been deleted for that reason. I’ve made no other edits on the subject of libertarian Democrats AFAIK. Toa Nidhiki05 15:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete There is no coverage of this organization in mainstream media hence it lacks notability. TFD ( talk) 16:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Possible keep - I saw some references to it in Google News. But if not then let's look at redirecting the page to Libertarian Democrat or something. The history of this article can then be preserved. Karl Twist ( talk) 12:05, 19 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show it passes WP:GNG or WP:ORGDEPTH. Onel5969 TT me 14:34, 19 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete this advertisement. Trillfendi ( talk) 20:20, 19 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, due to some new info and the fact that Democrat Mike Bozarth has been elected to the St. Joseph city council, I would strengthen by vote of Possible keep to a Keep. Karl Twist ( talk) 10:26, 22 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Comment It’s worth noting that Mike Bozarth was elected to one term nearly ten years agao (2006-2010) and is deceased. Toa Nidhiki05 12:13, 22 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Reply - Yes Mike Bozarth has passed away all those years ago. I still stand by my changing of Possible keep to Keep. Actually he may have passed away in 2015 which is 4 years ago.
    See News-PressNOW.com, Oct. 14, 2015 - Liberty movement lost a friend
    He must have passed away not long after he received the Karl Wetzel Award for Lifetime Achievement for his over thirty years of activism in support of the Libertarian Party.
    See I ndependent Political Report' - Missouri LP 2015 State Convention Wrap Up, New Officers Elected By Cisse Spragins, Immediate Past Chair
    So he's worth noting.
    Thanks Karl Twist ( talk) 12:52, 22 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Have a look at the sourcing. -- Somedifferentstuff ( talk) 11:09, 23 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete promotional article, fails WP:GNG (and not sure if WP:NORG applies but that too.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SportingFlyer ( talkcontribs) 01.33, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment to the above. It's not a promotional article! It just needs a lot more work on it. Karl Twist ( talk) 08:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 18:45, 26 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Robert Tingle

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Failed candidate for public office with little coverage. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL.

WP:BEFORE done: nothing found. –– Redditaddict69 (talk) (contribs) 21:56, 11 March 2019 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - fails NPOL and certainly doesn't satisfy consensus on other aspects. With 2 senate elections, there isn't a "biggest election" to redirect to. As a side note, the 2008 section actually reads as if it was written by the other side. Nosebagbear ( talk) 22:46, 18 March 2019 (UTC) reply
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