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See also Sports-related deletions and Video games-related deletions.
Mutating Mutants
- Mutating Mutants ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Mainly fails WP:Notability, did not find any sources for this article. GoodHue291 ( talk) 23:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Marvel RPG supplements where it is mentioned unless appropriate sourcing can be found. It's a coin toss on a pre-Internet supplement like this, but it's entirely possible sourcing is out there. Jclemens ( talk) 23:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Database guides, ebay, blog posts, that's all I can find. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Marvel RPG supplements until sources can be found. BOZ ( talk) 02:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Marvel RPG supplements per BOZ. BD2412 T 20:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Meridian Gaming
- Meridian Gaming ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted and salted as Meridian Gaming Ltd/ Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meridian Gaming Ltd * Pppery * it has begun... 23:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Companies, Internet, Malta, and Serbia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not entering an opinion yet since I've not fully reviewed the sources, the sheer volume prevents me from doing so in a timely manner (I'll do it later, promise!... If I get the time anyway), but Backij, I see you've left comments on the old AfD and the article talk page ( Talk:Meridian Gaming), asking about the reason it has been nominated (this is the best place for that, so please leave your future comments here!).
Extended commentary on
WP:ORGCRIT and why an article might need to be deleted
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|---|
|
- My best advice would be to pick your
best three sources that you think meets all four of those criteria, copy them here and explain how they tick each of the boxes. If you can find three that clearly meet the criteria, usually an article will be kept.
Alpha3031 (
t •
c) 11:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm done with my search. There is a truly horrific amount of sponsored articles (ads) and press releases of them tooting their own horn (
WP:SPIP), but no amount of tooting ought to be able to buy a well-intentioned page on Wikipedia that does more of the same tooting. Please up the level of salt and delete again, the current level having proven insufficent.
Alpha3031 (
t •
c) 12:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- MediaWiki:Titleblacklist would be the logical next level. But I'm not convinced that's warranted after only three recreations years apart. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm done with my search. There is a truly horrific amount of sponsored articles (ads) and press releases of them tooting their own horn (
WP:SPIP), but no amount of tooting ought to be able to buy a well-intentioned page on Wikipedia that does more of the same tooting. Please up the level of salt and delete again, the current level having proven insufficent.
Alpha3031 (
t •
c) 12:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 12:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Liberty Playing Card Company
- Liberty Playing Card Company ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cannot find sufficient independent sources BoraVoro ( talk) 12:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Companies, Illinois, and Texas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Baba Ijebu
AfDs for this article:
- Baba Ijebu ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable betting company; no reliable sources to meet NCORP BoraVoro ( talk) 11:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Companies, and Nigeria. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: [1], [2], [3], and [4] from the article is enough to establish notability. Per se, the article meets WP:ORGCRIT and WP:SIGCOV. Maybe clean up is the problem. this and this shows mentions in books and newspapers. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 23:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Sources look fairly dubious.
1 is a how-to guide with pros/cons of playing,
2 is highly promotional ("popularity spreading like wildfire"),
3 is a hagiographic (see "Not only is Sir Kensington a successful business mogul, he also continues to contribute his quota to humanity") profile of the owner,
4 is a brief statement that the company has signed an athlete to an endorsement deal. Passing mentions found on Google above do not contribute to notability.
Heavy Grasshopper (
talk) 12:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sources are allowed to be as promotional (or anti-promotional) as they want per
WP:RSBIAS. What matters is whether there's information in those sources that we can use. What counts as "normal" tone for a news article depends on your culture, and we don't want to be
tone policing the sources. When you read through a "highly promotional" source, you just have to ignore the fluff and focus on the facts. For example, in the first couple of paragraphs, this one says that the subject is named after the founder, says where the founder is from, and says it is computer-based. Those are all encyclopedic facts.
WhatamIdoing (
talk) 18:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your helpful response. Though I have some awareness of RSBIAS, it was good to have the opportunity to read it again and ensure I consider that fully when opining at AFD. I could have phrased my initial comment more effectively. i did feel the sources may scrape past the GNG threshold, which is why I didn't vote delete. Heavy Grasshopper ( talk) 08:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sources are allowed to be as promotional (or anti-promotional) as they want per
WP:RSBIAS. What matters is whether there's information in those sources that we can use. What counts as "normal" tone for a news article depends on your culture, and we don't want to be
tone policing the sources. When you read through a "highly promotional" source, you just have to ignore the fluff and focus on the facts. For example, in the first couple of paragraphs, this one says that the subject is named after the founder, says where the founder is from, and says it is computer-based. Those are all encyclopedic facts.
WhatamIdoing (
talk) 18:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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| Points of interest related to
Games on Wikipedia: History – Portal – Category – WikiProject – Alerts – Deletions – Assessment – To-do |
This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Games: board, card, etc. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.
- Adding a new AfD discussion
- Adding an AfD to this page does not add it to the main page at
WP:AFD. Similarly, removing an AfD from this page does not remove it from the main page at
WP:AFD. If you want to nominate an article for deletion, go through the process on that page before adding it to this page. To add a discussion to this page, follow these steps:
- Edit this page and add {{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName}} to the top of the list. Replace "PageName" with the relevant article name, i.e. the one on the existing AFD discussion. Also, indicate the title of the article in the edit summary as it is particularly helpful to add a link to the article in the edit summary. When you save the page, the discussion will automatically appear.
- You should also tag the AfD by adding {{subst:delsort|Games|~~~~}} to it, which will inform editors that it has been listed here. You may place this tag above or below the nomination statement or at the end of the discussion thread.
- Note that there are a few scripts and tools that can make this easier.
- Removing a closed AfD discussion
- Closed AfD discussions are automatically removed by a bot.
- Other types of discussions
- You can also add and remove links to other discussions ( prod, CfD, TfD etc.) related to Games: board, card, etc.
- Further information
- For further information see Wikipedia's deletion policy and WP:AfD for general information about Articles for Deletion, including a list of article deletions sorted by day of nomination.
Archived discussions (starting from September 2007) may be found at:| watch |
See also Sports-related deletions and Video games-related deletions.
Mutating Mutants
- Mutating Mutants ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Mainly fails WP:Notability, did not find any sources for this article. GoodHue291 ( talk) 23:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Marvel RPG supplements where it is mentioned unless appropriate sourcing can be found. It's a coin toss on a pre-Internet supplement like this, but it's entirely possible sourcing is out there. Jclemens ( talk) 23:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Database guides, ebay, blog posts, that's all I can find. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Marvel RPG supplements until sources can be found. BOZ ( talk) 02:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Marvel RPG supplements per BOZ. BD2412 T 20:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Meridian Gaming
- Meridian Gaming ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Previously deleted and salted as Meridian Gaming Ltd/ Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meridian Gaming Ltd * Pppery * it has begun... 23:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Companies, Internet, Malta, and Serbia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not entering an opinion yet since I've not fully reviewed the sources, the sheer volume prevents me from doing so in a timely manner (I'll do it later, promise!... If I get the time anyway), but Backij, I see you've left comments on the old AfD and the article talk page ( Talk:Meridian Gaming), asking about the reason it has been nominated (this is the best place for that, so please leave your future comments here!).
Extended commentary on
WP:ORGCRIT and why an article might need to be deleted
|
|---|
|
- My best advice would be to pick your
best three sources that you think meets all four of those criteria, copy them here and explain how they tick each of the boxes. If you can find three that clearly meet the criteria, usually an article will be kept.
Alpha3031 (
t •
c) 11:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm done with my search. There is a truly horrific amount of sponsored articles (ads) and press releases of them tooting their own horn (
WP:SPIP), but no amount of tooting ought to be able to buy a well-intentioned page on Wikipedia that does more of the same tooting. Please up the level of salt and delete again, the current level having proven insufficent.
Alpha3031 (
t •
c) 12:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- MediaWiki:Titleblacklist would be the logical next level. But I'm not convinced that's warranted after only three recreations years apart. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm done with my search. There is a truly horrific amount of sponsored articles (ads) and press releases of them tooting their own horn (
WP:SPIP), but no amount of tooting ought to be able to buy a well-intentioned page on Wikipedia that does more of the same tooting. Please up the level of salt and delete again, the current level having proven insufficent.
Alpha3031 (
t •
c) 12:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗ plicit 12:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Liberty Playing Card Company
- Liberty Playing Card Company ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Cannot find sufficient independent sources BoraVoro ( talk) 12:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Companies, Illinois, and Texas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Baba Ijebu
AfDs for this article:
- Baba Ijebu ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Not notable betting company; no reliable sources to meet NCORP BoraVoro ( talk) 11:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Games, Companies, and Nigeria. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: [1], [2], [3], and [4] from the article is enough to establish notability. Per se, the article meets WP:ORGCRIT and WP:SIGCOV. Maybe clean up is the problem. this and this shows mentions in books and newspapers. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 23:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Sources look fairly dubious.
1 is a how-to guide with pros/cons of playing,
2 is highly promotional ("popularity spreading like wildfire"),
3 is a hagiographic (see "Not only is Sir Kensington a successful business mogul, he also continues to contribute his quota to humanity") profile of the owner,
4 is a brief statement that the company has signed an athlete to an endorsement deal. Passing mentions found on Google above do not contribute to notability.
Heavy Grasshopper (
talk) 12:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sources are allowed to be as promotional (or anti-promotional) as they want per
WP:RSBIAS. What matters is whether there's information in those sources that we can use. What counts as "normal" tone for a news article depends on your culture, and we don't want to be
tone policing the sources. When you read through a "highly promotional" source, you just have to ignore the fluff and focus on the facts. For example, in the first couple of paragraphs, this one says that the subject is named after the founder, says where the founder is from, and says it is computer-based. Those are all encyclopedic facts.
WhatamIdoing (
talk) 18:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your helpful response. Though I have some awareness of RSBIAS, it was good to have the opportunity to read it again and ensure I consider that fully when opining at AFD. I could have phrased my initial comment more effectively. i did feel the sources may scrape past the GNG threshold, which is why I didn't vote delete. Heavy Grasshopper ( talk) 08:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sources are allowed to be as promotional (or anti-promotional) as they want per
WP:RSBIAS. What matters is whether there's information in those sources that we can use. What counts as "normal" tone for a news article depends on your culture, and we don't want to be
tone policing the sources. When you read through a "highly promotional" source, you just have to ignore the fluff and focus on the facts. For example, in the first couple of paragraphs, this one says that the subject is named after the founder, says where the founder is from, and says it is computer-based. Those are all encyclopedic facts.
WhatamIdoing (
talk) 18:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)