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06:37, 15 June 2024 review of submission by Wikicont12

what the hell is going on when all the reference are reliable and the content is appropriate you people still targeting to disapprove why if you peoples don't want to work with rightful then shut off this fucking platform Wikicont12 ( talk) 06:37, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Calm down. Swearing at us does you no favours. — Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 06:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Wikicont12: interesting how you put that, "still targeting to disapprove" [emphasis mine]. Your account is one week old, with six edits under your belt, and this is the first time this particular draft was declined. When and where was it that you've previously felt "targeted"? Was that under this or a different account? And what does "targeting" even mean? Please provide details. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 07:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

13:15, 15 June 2024 review of submission by Lokiiru

Help me find the copyright of an image! I'm trying to get a headshot of the person in the page above, and he has one in this website. Lokiiru The company is South Korean, and I can't find the copyright anywhere despite it surely having one. ( talk) 13:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Lokiiru: I don't know which image you mean, but unless it clearly indicates that it is available under a licence compatible with Wikipedia, you must assume it isn't. In any case, this isn't really an AfC matter, as images have no bearing on whether a draft will be accepted or not. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 13:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the help! This got sent to AfC because I clicked the link on the draft page to ask for help. My bad for not checking :) While I'm here, the person I wrote the draft about is mentioned on the following pages: Ciipher, Evnne, Boys Planet, Keita (given name), for notability. He is the only unlinked person on the given names page, so I wanted to make a page for him. Thanks again! Lokiiru ( talk) 01:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Lokiiru: If no copyright licence is explicitly stated, assume it is under all-rights-reserved copyright. Images don't help a draft at all, anyway. — Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 15:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

23:47, 15 June 2024 review of submission by Tjiundje

Hello Chaotic Enby, I need your help please, tell me what can I do? What kind of issues did I have a problem with?

I look forward to your reply. Tjiundje ( talk) 23:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Courtesy ping: Chaotic Enby  Courtesy link:  Draft:The Licius Family
@ Tjiundje, the draft has zero useable sources to establish notability:
1 and 2: Their YouTube bio, self-published and not reliable.
3: Facebook, see WP:FACEBOOK, not reliable.
4. His profile in a place he's worked in, not independent.
5 and 6: Wikipedia, see WP:CIRCULAR, never reliable.
7: His profile in another place he's worked in, again, not independent.
Also, looking at your username, it seems to be an autobiography, which is strongly discouraged. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 03:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply
How is my daft? Tjiundje ( talk) 19:54, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Did you not read anything I wrote above? The draft has been declined again. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 01:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  I got it, is only about the issue raised? 197.233.202.222 ( talk) 01:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Hi, @ CanonNi, thank you for your feedback. Is only about the issue raised? Tjiundje ( talk) 01:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not sure I understand the question, but the draft will almost certainly be declined if it is resubmitted now. It currently has 5 references, none of which establishes notability. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 01:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Okay, let me rewrite as the one thing almost done. Tjiundje ( talk) 01:24, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
It's completed... I look forward to your reply. Tjiundje ( talk) 02:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Sorry, but I've declined it again. Please do not resubmit without improvement. None of the five sources are useable, and the draft is promotional in tone. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 02:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  Oh, sorry for resubmitting without improvement... What can I do? Is it about the five sources that are usable? Please show me. Where can I find it?   Tjiundje ( talk) 03:01, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
You mean reference I must clear none of it. Tjiundje ( talk) 03:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not sure what you're saying... '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 03:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I mean you said that it currently has 5 references, none of which establishes notability. But I am still misunderstanding what can I do? Tjiundje ( talk) 03:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
What you should do is to give up this vain attempt to write an article about yourself: as you have been told several times, this is a bad idea, will almost certainly not work, and will waste a lot of your time and other people's time.
If you insist on going ahead with it, you will need to find several sources, each of which meets all the criteria in golden rule: ignore everything written, published, or commissioned by you or your friends, associates, or agents, or based on your words (eg in interviews or press releases); ignore everything in social media, blogs, or user-generated sites such as wikis and iMDB; ignore everything that does not have at least a couple of paragaphs about you specifically.
If you can find at least three such sources, the next step will be to forget every single thing that you know about yourself, and write a summary of what those sources say.
Do you see why writing an autobiography on Wikipedia almost never works? ColinFine ( talk) 20:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
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June 15 Information

06:37, 15 June 2024 review of submission by Wikicont12

what the hell is going on when all the reference are reliable and the content is appropriate you people still targeting to disapprove why if you peoples don't want to work with rightful then shut off this fucking platform Wikicont12 ( talk) 06:37, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Calm down. Swearing at us does you no favours. — Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 06:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Wikicont12: interesting how you put that, "still targeting to disapprove" [emphasis mine]. Your account is one week old, with six edits under your belt, and this is the first time this particular draft was declined. When and where was it that you've previously felt "targeted"? Was that under this or a different account? And what does "targeting" even mean? Please provide details. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 07:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

13:15, 15 June 2024 review of submission by Lokiiru

Help me find the copyright of an image! I'm trying to get a headshot of the person in the page above, and he has one in this website. Lokiiru The company is South Korean, and I can't find the copyright anywhere despite it surely having one. ( talk) 13:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Lokiiru: I don't know which image you mean, but unless it clearly indicates that it is available under a licence compatible with Wikipedia, you must assume it isn't. In any case, this isn't really an AfC matter, as images have no bearing on whether a draft will be accepted or not. -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 13:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Thanks for the help! This got sent to AfC because I clicked the link on the draft page to ask for help. My bad for not checking :) While I'm here, the person I wrote the draft about is mentioned on the following pages: Ciipher, Evnne, Boys Planet, Keita (given name), for notability. He is the only unlinked person on the given names page, so I wanted to make a page for him. Thanks again! Lokiiru ( talk) 01:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Lokiiru: If no copyright licence is explicitly stated, assume it is under all-rights-reserved copyright. Images don't help a draft at all, anyway. — Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 15:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

23:47, 15 June 2024 review of submission by Tjiundje

Hello Chaotic Enby, I need your help please, tell me what can I do? What kind of issues did I have a problem with?

I look forward to your reply. Tjiundje ( talk) 23:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Courtesy ping: Chaotic Enby  Courtesy link:  Draft:The Licius Family
@ Tjiundje, the draft has zero useable sources to establish notability:
1 and 2: Their YouTube bio, self-published and not reliable.
3: Facebook, see WP:FACEBOOK, not reliable.
4. His profile in a place he's worked in, not independent.
5 and 6: Wikipedia, see WP:CIRCULAR, never reliable.
7: His profile in another place he's worked in, again, not independent.
Also, looking at your username, it seems to be an autobiography, which is strongly discouraged. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 03:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply
How is my daft? Tjiundje ( talk) 19:54, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Did you not read anything I wrote above? The draft has been declined again. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 01:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  I got it, is only about the issue raised? 197.233.202.222 ( talk) 01:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Hi, @ CanonNi, thank you for your feedback. Is only about the issue raised? Tjiundje ( talk) 01:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not sure I understand the question, but the draft will almost certainly be declined if it is resubmitted now. It currently has 5 references, none of which establishes notability. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 01:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Okay, let me rewrite as the one thing almost done. Tjiundje ( talk) 01:24, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
It's completed... I look forward to your reply. Tjiundje ( talk) 02:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
Sorry, but I've declined it again. Please do not resubmit without improvement. None of the five sources are useable, and the draft is promotional in tone. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 02:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  Oh, sorry for resubmitting without improvement... What can I do? Is it about the five sources that are usable? Please show me. Where can I find it?   Tjiundje ( talk) 03:01, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
You mean reference I must clear none of it. Tjiundje ( talk) 03:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm not sure what you're saying... '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talkcontribs) 03:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
I mean you said that it currently has 5 references, none of which establishes notability. But I am still misunderstanding what can I do? Tjiundje ( talk) 03:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
What you should do is to give up this vain attempt to write an article about yourself: as you have been told several times, this is a bad idea, will almost certainly not work, and will waste a lot of your time and other people's time.
If you insist on going ahead with it, you will need to find several sources, each of which meets all the criteria in golden rule: ignore everything written, published, or commissioned by you or your friends, associates, or agents, or based on your words (eg in interviews or press releases); ignore everything in social media, blogs, or user-generated sites such as wikis and iMDB; ignore everything that does not have at least a couple of paragaphs about you specifically.
If you can find at least three such sources, the next step will be to forget every single thing that you know about yourself, and write a summary of what those sources say.
Do you see why writing an autobiography on Wikipedia almost never works? ColinFine ( talk) 20:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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