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November 1 Information
- Missbellanash ( talk · contribs)
{{SAFESUBST:Void|
Your people are lying, why??? Missbellanash ( talk) 00:25, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- @
Missbellanash: Please stop, calm yourself down, and actually take on-board what you are being told by everyone who's interacted with you.
Insisting you know best does you absolutely no good and damns the draft. —
A little blue Bori
v^_^v
Jéské Couriano
01:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- What on earth are you talking about, nothing of import happened. Certainly nothing that conforms to that type of comment. Did you even read my (brief) question?
Missbellanash (
talk)
04:47, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- See? Nothing at all, as expected. Missbellanash ( talk) 05:26, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- What on earth are you talking about, nothing of import happened. Certainly nothing that conforms to that type of comment. Did you even read my (brief) question?
Missbellanash (
talk)
04:47, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
I need help because my boss has asked me to create a page on wikipedia. It's a brand new page. I've done that but now it is declined. Is there some way I can escape the deletion.
Draft:National Mathematics Summer School
Mrnamnam (
talk)
01:14, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- No sources, no article, no debate. Tell your boss to read WP:PSCOI. If he refuses, resign and find work at a workplace that isn't going to assign you an impossible task. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 01:22, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Gogysimper ( talk · contribs)
The reason for the page GeorgeNotFound being denied was due to not being Notable enough but there are plenty of streamers + youtubers which currently have existing pages and could be arguably less notable (I also have edited the page recently and added an awards section as the the page subject has been recently nominated to the streamies awards by YouTube) I just want to have an idea of what do the other content creator pages have done to move forward, if you have any advise I would really appreciate it, thank you
Gogysimper (
talk)
03:20, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- You cannot use the existence, absence, or status of other tangentially-related articles to argue for your own, and there's a good chance most of those pages predate AfC in the first place or were otherwise never drafted. Statistics websites are never worth citing, as they cannot provide the in-depth details we're looking for in a source. Social media can only be cited to verify someone said (foo) and don't help for notability (connexion to subject, no editorial oversight). YouTube itself is generally not usable as a source (unknown provenance). The bulk of your sources fall into one of these three categories. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 04:17, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Previously the article was declined as direct mention of the movie director was not present. However, because of his new work, 2 or more articles has been published as below which talks about direct reference with the director. I hope it helps to solve and iron out the issue. Kindly help https://bengali.news18.com/news/entertainment/tollywood-movies-angsuman-banerji-psycho-drama-web-series-large-peg-has-anindya-pulak-banerjee-sayantani-guha-thakurata-pbd-661362.html and https://bengali.news18.com/news/entertainment/tollywood-movies-angsuman-banerji-psycho-drama-web-series-large-peg-has-anindya-pulak-banerjee-sayantani-guha-thakurata-pbd-661362.html
Ourbag ( talk) 05:28, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
I was confused about the statement that my article's contents "do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject." I was under the impression that all of the sources I cited are reliable and independent (including Bloomberg, Detroit Free Press and Toronto Globe & Mail -- all major news outlets) and all of the sources are specifically about the subject itself and not passing menion (its creation, the early Dan Gilbert investment, the major brokerages using it and the recent majority stake purchase from a private equity firm). I feel so dumb because I thought I did this correctly, but where am I going wrong? I really want to get it right this time. Thanks! And Adoil Descended ( talk) 18:50, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
-
And Adoil Descended The issue is not the sources themselves, but their content. They just tell about the routine business activities of the company- this does not establish notability. A Wikipedia article about this company must summarize what independent
reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of
a notable company. This coverage must go beyond merely telling what the company does.
331dot (
talk)
19:14, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- I will try it again, bringing in more coverage as you requested. Thank you.
And Adoil Descended (
talk)
19:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- @ And Adoil Descended: make sure to look through WP:CORPDEPTH and the lists of examples of trivial and significant coverage to help decide if a source is usable to establish notability. The trivial sources are ok to support information but we need to see some sources that have taken the time to write about the company as a whole. This particular topic will be scrutinized fairly heavily as it already had an AFD and is currently protected against creation in the main space. McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 19:30, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- I will try it again, bringing in more coverage as you requested. Thank you.
And Adoil Descended (
talk)
19:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- @ Mcmatter:@ 331dot: I am giving it another go. I appreciate your patience and insight on how to improve the article - or, really, a stub. I've broken the text out to detail what the company does and added mention of some prominent people who were involved in its launch and current contents. I will point out that the company has been the central subject of independent coverage by Bloomberg, Columbia Journalism Review, Detroit Free Press and Toronto's Globe and Mail, which I hope will get it over the line. But, I am willing to re-edit it if more is required. Thank you. And Adoil Descended ( talk) 20:51, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Since I Am a Journalist for the last 20 years. I gave my blood for Journalism, Free speech, etc and I have a lot of contributions to Pakistani Journalism, so I think I should appear on Wikipedia.kindly only Type my name in Google or any search engine you will see my profile and my work. Anwar Shakir Wazir ( talk) 19:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Anwar Shakir Wazir ( talk) 19:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC) Anwar Shakir Wazir ( talk) 19:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- To be successful, you must set aside everything you know about yourself and only write based on the content of independent reliable sources. That's usually very difficult for people to do. Keep in mind that an article about yourself is not necessarily a good thing. 331dot ( talk) 19:50, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Winifredwhelan ( talk · contribs)
I would like to upload three pictures on my page for Marie Pauline Brenner. Is there a form to fill out for obtaining copyright permissions?
Winifredwhelan ( talk) 19:11, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Winifredwhelan You may want to ask this at the general Help Desk, this one is for asking for help with drafts. 331dot ( talk) 19:20, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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November 1 Information
- Missbellanash ( talk · contribs)
{{SAFESUBST:Void|
Your people are lying, why??? Missbellanash ( talk) 00:25, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- @
Missbellanash: Please stop, calm yourself down, and actually take on-board what you are being told by everyone who's interacted with you.
Insisting you know best does you absolutely no good and damns the draft. —
A little blue Bori
v^_^v
Jéské Couriano
01:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- What on earth are you talking about, nothing of import happened. Certainly nothing that conforms to that type of comment. Did you even read my (brief) question?
Missbellanash (
talk)
04:47, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- See? Nothing at all, as expected. Missbellanash ( talk) 05:26, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- What on earth are you talking about, nothing of import happened. Certainly nothing that conforms to that type of comment. Did you even read my (brief) question?
Missbellanash (
talk)
04:47, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
I need help because my boss has asked me to create a page on wikipedia. It's a brand new page. I've done that but now it is declined. Is there some way I can escape the deletion.
Draft:National Mathematics Summer School
Mrnamnam (
talk)
01:14, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- No sources, no article, no debate. Tell your boss to read WP:PSCOI. If he refuses, resign and find work at a workplace that isn't going to assign you an impossible task. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 01:22, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Gogysimper ( talk · contribs)
The reason for the page GeorgeNotFound being denied was due to not being Notable enough but there are plenty of streamers + youtubers which currently have existing pages and could be arguably less notable (I also have edited the page recently and added an awards section as the the page subject has been recently nominated to the streamies awards by YouTube) I just want to have an idea of what do the other content creator pages have done to move forward, if you have any advise I would really appreciate it, thank you
Gogysimper (
talk)
03:20, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- You cannot use the existence, absence, or status of other tangentially-related articles to argue for your own, and there's a good chance most of those pages predate AfC in the first place or were otherwise never drafted. Statistics websites are never worth citing, as they cannot provide the in-depth details we're looking for in a source. Social media can only be cited to verify someone said (foo) and don't help for notability (connexion to subject, no editorial oversight). YouTube itself is generally not usable as a source (unknown provenance). The bulk of your sources fall into one of these three categories. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 04:17, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Previously the article was declined as direct mention of the movie director was not present. However, because of his new work, 2 or more articles has been published as below which talks about direct reference with the director. I hope it helps to solve and iron out the issue. Kindly help https://bengali.news18.com/news/entertainment/tollywood-movies-angsuman-banerji-psycho-drama-web-series-large-peg-has-anindya-pulak-banerjee-sayantani-guha-thakurata-pbd-661362.html and https://bengali.news18.com/news/entertainment/tollywood-movies-angsuman-banerji-psycho-drama-web-series-large-peg-has-anindya-pulak-banerjee-sayantani-guha-thakurata-pbd-661362.html
Ourbag ( talk) 05:28, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
I was confused about the statement that my article's contents "do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject." I was under the impression that all of the sources I cited are reliable and independent (including Bloomberg, Detroit Free Press and Toronto Globe & Mail -- all major news outlets) and all of the sources are specifically about the subject itself and not passing menion (its creation, the early Dan Gilbert investment, the major brokerages using it and the recent majority stake purchase from a private equity firm). I feel so dumb because I thought I did this correctly, but where am I going wrong? I really want to get it right this time. Thanks! And Adoil Descended ( talk) 18:50, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
-
And Adoil Descended The issue is not the sources themselves, but their content. They just tell about the routine business activities of the company- this does not establish notability. A Wikipedia article about this company must summarize what independent
reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of
a notable company. This coverage must go beyond merely telling what the company does.
331dot (
talk)
19:14, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- I will try it again, bringing in more coverage as you requested. Thank you.
And Adoil Descended (
talk)
19:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- @ And Adoil Descended: make sure to look through WP:CORPDEPTH and the lists of examples of trivial and significant coverage to help decide if a source is usable to establish notability. The trivial sources are ok to support information but we need to see some sources that have taken the time to write about the company as a whole. This particular topic will be scrutinized fairly heavily as it already had an AFD and is currently protected against creation in the main space. McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 19:30, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- I will try it again, bringing in more coverage as you requested. Thank you.
And Adoil Descended (
talk)
19:23, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- @ Mcmatter:@ 331dot: I am giving it another go. I appreciate your patience and insight on how to improve the article - or, really, a stub. I've broken the text out to detail what the company does and added mention of some prominent people who were involved in its launch and current contents. I will point out that the company has been the central subject of independent coverage by Bloomberg, Columbia Journalism Review, Detroit Free Press and Toronto's Globe and Mail, which I hope will get it over the line. But, I am willing to re-edit it if more is required. Thank you. And Adoil Descended ( talk) 20:51, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Since I Am a Journalist for the last 20 years. I gave my blood for Journalism, Free speech, etc and I have a lot of contributions to Pakistani Journalism, so I think I should appear on Wikipedia.kindly only Type my name in Google or any search engine you will see my profile and my work. Anwar Shakir Wazir ( talk) 19:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Anwar Shakir Wazir ( talk) 19:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC) Anwar Shakir Wazir ( talk) 19:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- To be successful, you must set aside everything you know about yourself and only write based on the content of independent reliable sources. That's usually very difficult for people to do. Keep in mind that an article about yourself is not necessarily a good thing. 331dot ( talk) 19:50, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Winifredwhelan ( talk · contribs)
I would like to upload three pictures on my page for Marie Pauline Brenner. Is there a form to fill out for obtaining copyright permissions?
Winifredwhelan ( talk) 19:11, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Winifredwhelan You may want to ask this at the general Help Desk, this one is for asking for help with drafts. 331dot ( talk) 19:20, 1 November 2021 (UTC)