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August 20 Information
- Mirrorshadows ( talk · contribs)
Hello, I may need some support writing the Kayra Baykan author page as well as pages for his newly published Mirror Shadows novels; it's a two-part series and he has announced that he intends to write further novels in the future. Information may be gleaned from his website wherein he can also be contacted directly at www.kayrabaykan.com or from reading his novels.
Mirrorshadows (
talk)Aerus Gold
Mirrorshadows (
talk)
00:19, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- The article does not contain any content that is sourced to secondary sources independent of the subject. See WP:GNG and WP:RS. Unless these exist, this draft is unviable. -- Kinu t/ c 00:48, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Request on 04:04:14, 20 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 2402:3A80:6FF:4884:C83E:83ED:6B3B:42BB
Request for re-review as its not an advertisement and well sourced.
2402:3A80:6FF:4884:C83E:83ED:6B3B:42BB (
talk)
04:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I wrote an important article but it was declined because of some reasons. It takes a lot of time to write an article. So, if you assure me that if I improve the article, it will be accepted, then I will continue. It takes a lot of time to find characters from a book and write there.
Infowriter's Keyboard (
talk)
04:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ Infowriter's Keyboard: It appears that there's already an article about this in Wikipedia. Please expand Professor Shonku rather than creating a second article about him. Curb Safe Charmer ( talk) 05:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
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Satendra1976 (
talk ·
contribs)
- No draft specified!
Satendra1976 (
talk)
07:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Why my article was declined?
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Courtesy link:
Draft:Preyas Sharma - @
Satendra1976: The draft was declined for multiple reasons:
- It does not read like an encyclopedia article. It reads like a 13-year-old boy telling about the book he just wrote (multiple times). We are not concerned with what the subject of an article has to say about itself.
- There is not even a claim that Sharma is notable, in Wikipedia's particular sense of the word. Please note the guidelines for biographies in general and authors in particular.
- Most importantly, there are no references. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As such, all material therein needs to be properly cited reliable sources which are independent of the subject. No such sourcing is in the draft, and when I looked I found absolutely nothing about the author or his book other than the sites which sell the book. Without independent sourcing there is literally nothing upon which a proper encyclopedia article can be based.
- Lots of people self-publish books. Few of them are notable. I see no hope that this draft can be turned into a successful article, and I would advise you to turn your attention to other subjects. -- Finngall talk 17:27, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Astro valiy ( talk · contribs)
Astro valiy (
talk)
10:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Astro valiy You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Please read the advice left by reviewers. 331dot ( talk) 10:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I included the above. I would like to resubmit this. Thank you! Astro valiy ( talk) 11:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Astro valiy As the draft was rejected, it will not be considered further, as no amount of editing can confer notability on a subject. If you have additional comment, please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections; this is easier to do in desktop mode(even on a phone). 331dot ( talk) 11:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I have submitted the correct information about Sleepsia. And all the relevant sources have been cited for the same. I expect it to be approved. Thanks.
Sleepsua ( talk) 11:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Your draft was declined, it is just blatant advertising as well.
Theroadislong (
talk)
11:22, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sleepsua Your draft is just advertising, telling what the company offers. Wikipedia articles must not merely tell about the subject(a company in this case). They must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Announcements of routine business activities or product descriptions are not significant coverage and do not establish notability. Please see Your First Article. If you work for this company, the Terms of Use require you to make a formal paid editing declaration; please also review conflict of interest. 331dot ( talk) 11:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- AssimAlHakeem ( talk · contribs)
AssimAlHakeem ( talk) 13:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- AssimAlHakeem You don't ask a question. 331dot ( talk) 13:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I've been trying to publish a page for Troutman Pepper - one of the largest law firms in the U.S. by headcount - and have been declined because of source quality. In looking at other law firm pages approved in the last few months ( Faegre Drinker) the sources used here are far more independent. Can someone please point to a law firm page I should use as a reference?
Cew3390 ( talk) 13:50, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Cew3390 I see that you declared a conflict of interest, if you work for this law firm you must make the stricter paid editing declaration, a Terms of use requirement.
- That an article exists does not mean that it was "approved" by anyone. I am not familiar with articles on law firms, but you should look for one that is classified as "good"(check the talk page) to use as a model. In the case of your draft, it just tells about the firm. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent
reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of
a notable organization. Please read
Your first article.
331dot (
talk)
13:58, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ Cew3390: Wikipedia doesn't have any featured or good article about law firms. That may say something about what poor encyclopedia topics they make. It would be safest to go by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, but you could try Kirkland & Ellis as a better-than-average example. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 03:48, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- LukeSinclair1 ( talk · contribs)
Recently, my article on the lawn chair was rejected. They claimed that it instead, belongs under the article for garden furniture but I disagree. If you read the article on garden furniture, you will see that it is talking about permanent furniture for outdoor use. I feel as if lawn chairs are different enough and deserve their own article. They have a very different use and have so many different designs and so much history and I think that a section in the garden furniture article does not do it justice. I don't believe they count as garden furniture because I think most people would describe a lawn chair as more of a portable seating device that has many uses, whereas garden furniture is more of something to furnish a house or establishment which lawn chairs would never be used for.
LukeSinclair1 (
talk)
14:54, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- LukeSinclair1 You would need to establish that lawn chairs deserve their own article by providing reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject; your draft does not do that. If you have such sources, I would pursue this in the context of first adding the content to the garden furniture article article, then pursuing a discussion on the talk page about splitting off that portion of the garden furniture article into a separate article. 331dot ( talk) 15:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- StoneyBellingham ( talk · contribs)
My submission has been turned down twice. I corrected errors from the first time but do not understand the next comment from Nightenbelle:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
I have read the section on reliable sources and sent a message to Nightenbelle - I may very well have not contacted Nightenbelle correctly. I believe I have used reliable sources and asked that Nightenbelle let me know which sources are being referred to so I can address them. The only two that might be an issue are the published corporate Annual Reports and if so, I'd like to know how to address that - am happy to copy,pdf, and upload the reports but have a feeling that will not be acceptable.
I am worried the submission will be turned down and deleted before I am able to understand how to correct it. Thank you, @stoneybellingham
StoneyBellingham ( talk) 17:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi StoneyBellingham. The main problem is not the reliability of the sources, but that many statements in the draft, such as the entire early life section, cite no sources, reliable or otherwise. Examining paragraphs at random, the third one of the career section makes a statement about Stone selling his share in Monogram in January 1983. It cites a source published in June 1982. I haven't read the source, but it can't possibly support something that happened the year after it was published. The fifth paragraph of the career section cites an article in Sports Illustrated. It supports the sentence where cited, and fragments of the rest of the paragraph, but much of the paragraph remains unsupported.
- Stone comes across in the draft as a dabbler. If he is notable, it is unclear why. What he is notable for should be explained in the first or second sentence of the lead. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 23:46, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- AlexArticleMY ( talk · contribs)
AlexArticleMY (
talk)
21:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ AlexArticleMY: It's as the reviewer says - The bulk of your sources discuss IN2IT, and what few don't are lowest-common-denominator celebrity gossip rags. You also cite Wikipedia; this is not acceptable. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 22:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- AssimAlHakeem ( talk · contribs)
Why the draft page name by "Draft:Mizanur_Rahman_Azhari" not accepted? I think now it's perfect, please help to move draft to article. Because, It's hard to do alone 😔, so many things will be write in this topic. Thank! AssimAlHakeem ( talk) 23:15, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- The requester has been blocked as a sock. McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 00:16, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
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August 20 Information
- Mirrorshadows ( talk · contribs)
Hello, I may need some support writing the Kayra Baykan author page as well as pages for his newly published Mirror Shadows novels; it's a two-part series and he has announced that he intends to write further novels in the future. Information may be gleaned from his website wherein he can also be contacted directly at www.kayrabaykan.com or from reading his novels.
Mirrorshadows (
talk)Aerus Gold
Mirrorshadows (
talk)
00:19, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- The article does not contain any content that is sourced to secondary sources independent of the subject. See WP:GNG and WP:RS. Unless these exist, this draft is unviable. -- Kinu t/ c 00:48, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Request on 04:04:14, 20 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 2402:3A80:6FF:4884:C83E:83ED:6B3B:42BB
Request for re-review as its not an advertisement and well sourced.
2402:3A80:6FF:4884:C83E:83ED:6B3B:42BB (
talk)
04:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I wrote an important article but it was declined because of some reasons. It takes a lot of time to write an article. So, if you assure me that if I improve the article, it will be accepted, then I will continue. It takes a lot of time to find characters from a book and write there.
Infowriter's Keyboard (
talk)
04:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ Infowriter's Keyboard: It appears that there's already an article about this in Wikipedia. Please expand Professor Shonku rather than creating a second article about him. Curb Safe Charmer ( talk) 05:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
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Satendra1976 (
talk ·
contribs)
- No draft specified!
Satendra1976 (
talk)
07:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Why my article was declined?
-
Courtesy link:
Draft:Preyas Sharma
- @
Satendra1976: The draft was declined for multiple reasons:
- It does not read like an encyclopedia article. It reads like a 13-year-old boy telling about the book he just wrote (multiple times). We are not concerned with what the subject of an article has to say about itself.
- There is not even a claim that Sharma is notable, in Wikipedia's particular sense of the word. Please note the guidelines for biographies in general and authors in particular.
- Most importantly, there are no references. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As such, all material therein needs to be properly cited reliable sources which are independent of the subject. No such sourcing is in the draft, and when I looked I found absolutely nothing about the author or his book other than the sites which sell the book. Without independent sourcing there is literally nothing upon which a proper encyclopedia article can be based.
- Lots of people self-publish books. Few of them are notable. I see no hope that this draft can be turned into a successful article, and I would advise you to turn your attention to other subjects. -- Finngall talk 17:27, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Astro valiy ( talk · contribs)
Astro valiy (
talk)
10:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Astro valiy You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Please read the advice left by reviewers. 331dot ( talk) 10:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I included the above. I would like to resubmit this. Thank you! Astro valiy ( talk) 11:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Astro valiy As the draft was rejected, it will not be considered further, as no amount of editing can confer notability on a subject. If you have additional comment, please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections; this is easier to do in desktop mode(even on a phone). 331dot ( talk) 11:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I have submitted the correct information about Sleepsia. And all the relevant sources have been cited for the same. I expect it to be approved. Thanks.
Sleepsua ( talk) 11:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Your draft was declined, it is just blatant advertising as well.
Theroadislong (
talk)
11:22, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sleepsua Your draft is just advertising, telling what the company offers. Wikipedia articles must not merely tell about the subject(a company in this case). They must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Announcements of routine business activities or product descriptions are not significant coverage and do not establish notability. Please see Your First Article. If you work for this company, the Terms of Use require you to make a formal paid editing declaration; please also review conflict of interest. 331dot ( talk) 11:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- AssimAlHakeem ( talk · contribs)
AssimAlHakeem ( talk) 13:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- AssimAlHakeem You don't ask a question. 331dot ( talk) 13:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
I've been trying to publish a page for Troutman Pepper - one of the largest law firms in the U.S. by headcount - and have been declined because of source quality. In looking at other law firm pages approved in the last few months ( Faegre Drinker) the sources used here are far more independent. Can someone please point to a law firm page I should use as a reference?
Cew3390 ( talk) 13:50, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Cew3390 I see that you declared a conflict of interest, if you work for this law firm you must make the stricter paid editing declaration, a Terms of use requirement.
- That an article exists does not mean that it was "approved" by anyone. I am not familiar with articles on law firms, but you should look for one that is classified as "good"(check the talk page) to use as a model. In the case of your draft, it just tells about the firm. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent
reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of
a notable organization. Please read
Your first article.
331dot (
talk)
13:58, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ Cew3390: Wikipedia doesn't have any featured or good article about law firms. That may say something about what poor encyclopedia topics they make. It would be safest to go by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, but you could try Kirkland & Ellis as a better-than-average example. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 03:48, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- LukeSinclair1 ( talk · contribs)
Recently, my article on the lawn chair was rejected. They claimed that it instead, belongs under the article for garden furniture but I disagree. If you read the article on garden furniture, you will see that it is talking about permanent furniture for outdoor use. I feel as if lawn chairs are different enough and deserve their own article. They have a very different use and have so many different designs and so much history and I think that a section in the garden furniture article does not do it justice. I don't believe they count as garden furniture because I think most people would describe a lawn chair as more of a portable seating device that has many uses, whereas garden furniture is more of something to furnish a house or establishment which lawn chairs would never be used for.
LukeSinclair1 (
talk)
14:54, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- LukeSinclair1 You would need to establish that lawn chairs deserve their own article by providing reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject; your draft does not do that. If you have such sources, I would pursue this in the context of first adding the content to the garden furniture article article, then pursuing a discussion on the talk page about splitting off that portion of the garden furniture article into a separate article. 331dot ( talk) 15:01, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- StoneyBellingham ( talk · contribs)
My submission has been turned down twice. I corrected errors from the first time but do not understand the next comment from Nightenbelle:
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.
I have read the section on reliable sources and sent a message to Nightenbelle - I may very well have not contacted Nightenbelle correctly. I believe I have used reliable sources and asked that Nightenbelle let me know which sources are being referred to so I can address them. The only two that might be an issue are the published corporate Annual Reports and if so, I'd like to know how to address that - am happy to copy,pdf, and upload the reports but have a feeling that will not be acceptable.
I am worried the submission will be turned down and deleted before I am able to understand how to correct it. Thank you, @stoneybellingham
StoneyBellingham ( talk) 17:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi StoneyBellingham. The main problem is not the reliability of the sources, but that many statements in the draft, such as the entire early life section, cite no sources, reliable or otherwise. Examining paragraphs at random, the third one of the career section makes a statement about Stone selling his share in Monogram in January 1983. It cites a source published in June 1982. I haven't read the source, but it can't possibly support something that happened the year after it was published. The fifth paragraph of the career section cites an article in Sports Illustrated. It supports the sentence where cited, and fragments of the rest of the paragraph, but much of the paragraph remains unsupported.
- Stone comes across in the draft as a dabbler. If he is notable, it is unclear why. What he is notable for should be explained in the first or second sentence of the lead. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 23:46, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- AlexArticleMY ( talk · contribs)
AlexArticleMY (
talk)
21:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- @ AlexArticleMY: It's as the reviewer says - The bulk of your sources discuss IN2IT, and what few don't are lowest-common-denominator celebrity gossip rags. You also cite Wikipedia; this is not acceptable. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 22:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- AssimAlHakeem ( talk · contribs)
Why the draft page name by "Draft:Mizanur_Rahman_Azhari" not accepted? I think now it's perfect, please help to move draft to article. Because, It's hard to do alone 😔, so many things will be write in this topic. Thank! AssimAlHakeem ( talk) 23:15, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- The requester has been blocked as a sock. McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 00:16, 21 August 2021 (UTC)