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I have volunteered to write a Wikipedia article for my fraternity, although the only issue is that a lot of the material I wish to use as reference material is not cite-able, as it is not publicly available. In my initial submission, I just cited our fraternity's Facebook and Instagram page, but my submission was declined for lacking proper citations. What can I do to correct this?
Thanks! -Sam
Monsieur Nam ( talk) 02:39, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@331dot: I understand how using our own fraternity's social media might be considered as 'unreliable', however almost every major fraternity uses their own websites as references. Furthermore, many of the already approved fraternity pages for newer/smaller frats I have looked at have used their social media as a reference and had no problems... There is definitely some improvement that needs to be done on my article (it is still a draft after all), but considering that very few other pages relating to the same sort of topic have more reliable sources I would assume that some leeway would be given to others of the same nature as well.
On another note, I did intend to declare a conflict of interest, but I'm not quite sure how to do that as this is my first article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monsieur Nam ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@331dot: I have disclosed my conflict of interest on my user page as you have recommended. I will also be sure to use the signature and timestamp for all my future comments. Thanks you for pointing that out. I can provide a list of a number of Wikipedia articles for fraternities and/or sororities which use their own sites as reference. It seems not at all uncommon, as most societies maintain some level of secrecy. I did my best to simply summarise the fraternity and did not give any opinion. Might I ask which parts of my article most need sources so I might try and resubmit it with more appropriate sources? Thanks again. -- Monsieur Nam ( talk) 17:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Techmallus (
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08:24, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Nature987765 (
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12:10, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi. I’m not sure why my draft was rejected as a “combination of advertising and gossip”. Underwood has been in the limelight since the late 2000s because of her close friend Lara Bingle (she was her manager in an Australian television series). I have included the brands she created, the blog she runs about fashion and travel. One of her co-partners, Sabine Römer, has her own article which has a lot less information. The only “gossip” I can see in my draft is about the rumour she was dating a British singer (the rumour is sourced). The majority of the article is about her being an entrepreneur. She is notable because there are lots and lots of independent articles about her and she has been known to the public (especially in Australia) for at least a decade.-- Nature987765 ( talk) 12:10, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@ 331dot: Respectively, I have only used a couple of interviews as sources. I have provided independent sources about her brands.-- Nature987765 ( talk) 14:31, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@ 331dot: Hi. Thanks for replying to me. Can you re-examine the draft now? I have added more independent sources about her, not her own words or brief mentions about her, but full articles about her.-- Nature987765 ( talk) 15:19, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@ 331dot: I don’t want to disregard what you have replied to me because I value your opinion. May I ask, why does Underwood not merit an article, but one of her co-founders Sabine Römer does have her own article? If anything, Underwood is more known than Römer. There are many articles on Wikipedia with a lot less information and fewer sources referenced in the articles. I have read the Wikipedia articles about creating articles (drafts), using verifiable sources, notability, etc. I don’t pay too much attention to the fact that she has her own blog to describe her travel experiences and fashion. She’s an entrepreneur in London who has achieved quite a lot in her life since graduating from university. She founded and is a co-owner of some well known brands in the UK. Should I add about her influences in the brands?-- Nature987765 ( talk) 16:18, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
I need help with the editing part, if you could walk me through on some parts, that would be really helpful.
Tsunami307 ( talk) 16:20, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
19:21:29, 11 February 2020 review of submission by Eveliendezwart
Eveliendezwart (
talk)
19:21, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm confused as to why my article was rejected. I used only reliable sources that feature the subject, not just mention him in passing and also linked out to other family member's wiki pages that mention him. Would love some advice!!
74.108.27.177 ( talk) 19:53, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
I reckon the previous version seemed to be lack at the 3rd party-sources. I added more materials be independent to the subject. My question is if this addition/edition would be enough to be published? Please kindly/specifically advise me if further improvement needed.
Olivefresh ( talk) 19:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
The page called Airshare is notable enough for inclusion in the Wikipedia database. This company is mentioned numerous times on the page for Jet Cards and is among the ranks of its competitors, such as Wheels Up and Plane Sense, who also have pages. I would like to request a re-review of this page. Thank you. Rpierce13 ( talk) 20:13, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just wondering why this page was deemed not suitable. As far as I can tell, the sources show that Kay Stammers is a public figure (a television reporter, with many similar to her appearing on Wikipedia), and the sources were also impartial.
It was noted that the submission read "like an advertisement". However, the submission simply contained two facts about a television personality that I saw was missing from Wikipedia, so I'm not sure how that's like an ad. I'd like to improve this article if I can and would like help understanding why it's ineligible. Thanks!
58.171.92.113 ( talk) 22:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
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I have volunteered to write a Wikipedia article for my fraternity, although the only issue is that a lot of the material I wish to use as reference material is not cite-able, as it is not publicly available. In my initial submission, I just cited our fraternity's Facebook and Instagram page, but my submission was declined for lacking proper citations. What can I do to correct this?
Thanks! -Sam
Monsieur Nam ( talk) 02:39, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@331dot: I understand how using our own fraternity's social media might be considered as 'unreliable', however almost every major fraternity uses their own websites as references. Furthermore, many of the already approved fraternity pages for newer/smaller frats I have looked at have used their social media as a reference and had no problems... There is definitely some improvement that needs to be done on my article (it is still a draft after all), but considering that very few other pages relating to the same sort of topic have more reliable sources I would assume that some leeway would be given to others of the same nature as well.
On another note, I did intend to declare a conflict of interest, but I'm not quite sure how to do that as this is my first article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monsieur Nam ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@331dot: I have disclosed my conflict of interest on my user page as you have recommended. I will also be sure to use the signature and timestamp for all my future comments. Thanks you for pointing that out. I can provide a list of a number of Wikipedia articles for fraternities and/or sororities which use their own sites as reference. It seems not at all uncommon, as most societies maintain some level of secrecy. I did my best to simply summarise the fraternity and did not give any opinion. Might I ask which parts of my article most need sources so I might try and resubmit it with more appropriate sources? Thanks again. -- Monsieur Nam ( talk) 17:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Techmallus (
talk)
08:24, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Nature987765 (
talk)
12:10, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi. I’m not sure why my draft was rejected as a “combination of advertising and gossip”. Underwood has been in the limelight since the late 2000s because of her close friend Lara Bingle (she was her manager in an Australian television series). I have included the brands she created, the blog she runs about fashion and travel. One of her co-partners, Sabine Römer, has her own article which has a lot less information. The only “gossip” I can see in my draft is about the rumour she was dating a British singer (the rumour is sourced). The majority of the article is about her being an entrepreneur. She is notable because there are lots and lots of independent articles about her and she has been known to the public (especially in Australia) for at least a decade.-- Nature987765 ( talk) 12:10, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@ 331dot: Respectively, I have only used a couple of interviews as sources. I have provided independent sources about her brands.-- Nature987765 ( talk) 14:31, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@ 331dot: Hi. Thanks for replying to me. Can you re-examine the draft now? I have added more independent sources about her, not her own words or brief mentions about her, but full articles about her.-- Nature987765 ( talk) 15:19, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@ 331dot: I don’t want to disregard what you have replied to me because I value your opinion. May I ask, why does Underwood not merit an article, but one of her co-founders Sabine Römer does have her own article? If anything, Underwood is more known than Römer. There are many articles on Wikipedia with a lot less information and fewer sources referenced in the articles. I have read the Wikipedia articles about creating articles (drafts), using verifiable sources, notability, etc. I don’t pay too much attention to the fact that she has her own blog to describe her travel experiences and fashion. She’s an entrepreneur in London who has achieved quite a lot in her life since graduating from university. She founded and is a co-owner of some well known brands in the UK. Should I add about her influences in the brands?-- Nature987765 ( talk) 16:18, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
I need help with the editing part, if you could walk me through on some parts, that would be really helpful.
Tsunami307 ( talk) 16:20, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
19:21:29, 11 February 2020 review of submission by Eveliendezwart
Eveliendezwart (
talk)
19:21, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm confused as to why my article was rejected. I used only reliable sources that feature the subject, not just mention him in passing and also linked out to other family member's wiki pages that mention him. Would love some advice!!
74.108.27.177 ( talk) 19:53, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
I reckon the previous version seemed to be lack at the 3rd party-sources. I added more materials be independent to the subject. My question is if this addition/edition would be enough to be published? Please kindly/specifically advise me if further improvement needed.
Olivefresh ( talk) 19:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
The page called Airshare is notable enough for inclusion in the Wikipedia database. This company is mentioned numerous times on the page for Jet Cards and is among the ranks of its competitors, such as Wheels Up and Plane Sense, who also have pages. I would like to request a re-review of this page. Thank you. Rpierce13 ( talk) 20:13, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just wondering why this page was deemed not suitable. As far as I can tell, the sources show that Kay Stammers is a public figure (a television reporter, with many similar to her appearing on Wikipedia), and the sources were also impartial.
It was noted that the submission read "like an advertisement". However, the submission simply contained two facts about a television personality that I saw was missing from Wikipedia, so I'm not sure how that's like an ad. I'd like to improve this article if I can and would like help understanding why it's ineligible. Thanks!
58.171.92.113 ( talk) 22:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC)