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May 28 Information
- Gilcrease1227 ( talk · contribs)
Gilcrease1227 ( talk) 00:23, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm requesting help to see how to make an entrepreneur's wiki page not sound like an advertisement. I saw that Alli Webb redirected to Drybar and figured she'd be an easy wiki to start with since I'm a new editor. All the similar entrepreneur pages I've seen could subjectively read like advertisements and I'm currently stating facts relating to things Alli Webb has created. Are there suggestions on which items should be taken out or make it seem like an advertisement? Currently, I'm unsure what it means if I'm just talking about things she's made.
Thanks for any advice!
I just want to use this space to express my disappointment in the editing process of wikipedia. I tried to add a page about a major mountain in a major US national park. (
/info/en/?search=Draft:Corkscrew_Peak). There are literally dozens and dozens and dozens of independent articles about it on Google. But the article was rejected because the article is not notable enough.
I used to be an early contributor, but stopped contributing in 2006, because the layers of bureaucracy was becoming a burden, and was making it difficult for me to actually add content. I feel saddened to see that this problem has not been fixed, but on the contrary seems to have increased.
I still wish best of luck to Wikipedia which is an amazing project.
Arno. ( talk) 07:04, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Arno. Greetings. As I have explained to you on my talk page twice, multiple sources are needed. All you would is to add them. The page has been accepted b other editor and I have added the sources for you. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 08:55, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- (ec)Hi Arno, it took two contributors about 15 minutes to add a handfull of sources to your draft to make it a perfectly acceptable stub article. You as the original author are expected to add at least a few good references. Don't give up so easily. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 09:00, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you CASSIOPEIA and Dodger67 for helping me finish the article. I didn't understand the explanations at first. They were pointing to at least 4 different documentation pages. That is pretty daunting. I wish there was a "simple" version of the instruction set that could be provided to new contributors.
I'm unsure why this article has been rejected for a "lack of notability"? AdoptOpenJDK is a project that is backed by several billion-dollar tech companies and is rapidly becoming the go-to replacement for Java binaries. The AdoptOpenJDK project is also mentioned in several other Wikipedia articles as seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/?search=adoptopenjdk&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go&ns0=1
-- Gdams1 ( talk) 09:15, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
I'd like to request help in creation of the above page, any errors in format or refs or even additional information will be great. LOGIMUSIC ( talk) 09:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
This is a page that I created for a Vantaa City owned public school that offers education for free, thus this is not an advert as claimed by Theroadislong. A Finnish language page exits: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantaan_kansainv%C3%A4linen_koulu
Belena70 (
talk)
11:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Belena70. Writing may advertise or promote an organization even if that organization offers people a service without a fee, but let us set that problem aside for now.
- Whether a Finnish language page exists for the topic is irrelevant. Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to its own policies and guidelines, set by the community of editors who contribute there. A topic may be suitable for inclusion in the Finnish Wikipedia but not in the English one, or vice versa.
- This school teaches grades 1-9. On the English Wikipedia, primary and middle schools generally are not notable (not suitable for inclusion). Even if this school is notable for some special reason (perhaps the building is historic, or the school pioneered a revolutionary teaching technique), the draft has to demonstrate that by citing multiple, independent, reliable sources, including at least one from outside the immediate geographic area. The draft cites no sources. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 05:10, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Lateshkj (
talk)
11:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Dear Team, the article I wrote.. is more concentric on Brooks-Iyengar's algorithm real time use cases and its implementation around globe.
- Aislinnlily ( talk · contribs)
Hello, I am requesting a re-review of this page because I have edited it to the best of my ability to meet my earlier editor's suggestions, who declined the page for not meeting Wikipedia's notability standards. I have made several edits to the page to meet this standard:
- Regarding the two citations that note basic company data, I have clarified that these numbers reference the Company's 10-Q form with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is factual as it is filed with the SEC, submitted to governmental review and subject to auditing.
- I have also clarified that the sixth citation references an industry trade magazine's independent rankings of the industry, based on analysts' which cover the space's opinions.
- In order to add additional notable citations, I have added a new subsection to the history section, titled "other milestones". This section covers large milestones in the company's development, which were covered in dedicated pieces by large national real estate magazines and newspapers, including Commercial Property Executive, GlobeSt, and IPE Real Assets, as well as a broadly distributed news source Denver Business Journal.
After exchanging feedback with my former editor K.E.Coffman, I have worked to meet his expectations. As this is my first page, I am eager for any and all feedback regarding how I might improve the notability standards for this submission. I hope that my edits have supported the page. Thanks very much.
Aislinnlily (
talk)
15:04, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've commented on the draft. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 04:37, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Terrence Dewar ( talk · contribs)
Terrence Dewar ( talk) 15:39, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi could you assist in explaining why my article submission is "Contrary to the Wikipedia" so I can make the necessary changes. Thank you
- @ Terrence Dewar: - as I said above, it's contrary to the purposes because it reads as an advert. As a secondary issue, it fails as a crystal ball - Wikipedia generally doesn't cover things that don't exist yet, as there is too much chance of circumstances changing before it actually comes into existence. This increases the longer the time scale is. Nosebagbear ( talk) 21:31, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
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Antolepore2 (
talk ·
contribs)
- No draft specified!
In relation to the draft
/info/en/?search=Draft:Antonio_Lepore
I wish I could solve the problem that I expose you here.
Thanks for your answer.
Unfortunately the situation is very complex.
I tried to insert my contribution on wikipedia italia but the administrators have gone crazy accused me of having defamed someone, of having written something fake etc. etc., I tried to convince that it was not like they said and I asked for help to wikipedia English but they proved to be accomplices of Wikipedia Italy and nobody defended me and nobody removed me the block that became global and on the IP address: 93.34.90.94
You can help me to remove the block of my original Antolepore account and the IP block: 93.34.90.94 so I can insert the text on Wikipedia Italy and then Wikipedia English.
Thank you
Antolepore2 (
talk)
17:05, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't believe this should currently be answered as the user appears to admit active Socking right here - I've raised an SPI case and notified. Nosebagbear ( talk) 21:42, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
hi is there a reviewer or writer who can in fact put forward my article, 'Yvonne Jones' it is about me, however it is also worthy of wiki Go art -X ( talk) 17:15, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- @ Go art -X: - we discourage autobiographies partly because it's very difficult to be neutral in them. However, there are more clearcut issues than neutrality ones here. Firstly, biographies must use inline referencces which link references to specific facts (the little blue numbers). Referencing for beginners can tell you how to do these. You also have a number of stated external links that don't actually link to anything, but would mostly be inappropriate if they did - your website could probably be justified but things like vimeo and youtube could not. You also need multiple reliable, independent in-depth references - I don't know what your first ref is like on this count (sounds promising), but your second (as your work) wouldn't count towards notability, though it might support certain non-controversial things. As a minor, but necessary point, you slip into the first person within the draft "my" etc, at a few points. Nosebagbear ( talk) 21:53, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
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May 28 Information
- Gilcrease1227 ( talk · contribs)
Gilcrease1227 ( talk) 00:23, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm requesting help to see how to make an entrepreneur's wiki page not sound like an advertisement. I saw that Alli Webb redirected to Drybar and figured she'd be an easy wiki to start with since I'm a new editor. All the similar entrepreneur pages I've seen could subjectively read like advertisements and I'm currently stating facts relating to things Alli Webb has created. Are there suggestions on which items should be taken out or make it seem like an advertisement? Currently, I'm unsure what it means if I'm just talking about things she's made.
Thanks for any advice!
I just want to use this space to express my disappointment in the editing process of wikipedia. I tried to add a page about a major mountain in a major US national park. (
/info/en/?search=Draft:Corkscrew_Peak). There are literally dozens and dozens and dozens of independent articles about it on Google. But the article was rejected because the article is not notable enough.
I used to be an early contributor, but stopped contributing in 2006, because the layers of bureaucracy was becoming a burden, and was making it difficult for me to actually add content. I feel saddened to see that this problem has not been fixed, but on the contrary seems to have increased.
I still wish best of luck to Wikipedia which is an amazing project.
Arno. ( talk) 07:04, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Arno. Greetings. As I have explained to you on my talk page twice, multiple sources are needed. All you would is to add them. The page has been accepted b other editor and I have added the sources for you. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 08:55, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- (ec)Hi Arno, it took two contributors about 15 minutes to add a handfull of sources to your draft to make it a perfectly acceptable stub article. You as the original author are expected to add at least a few good references. Don't give up so easily. Roger (Dodger67) ( talk) 09:00, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you CASSIOPEIA and Dodger67 for helping me finish the article. I didn't understand the explanations at first. They were pointing to at least 4 different documentation pages. That is pretty daunting. I wish there was a "simple" version of the instruction set that could be provided to new contributors.
I'm unsure why this article has been rejected for a "lack of notability"? AdoptOpenJDK is a project that is backed by several billion-dollar tech companies and is rapidly becoming the go-to replacement for Java binaries. The AdoptOpenJDK project is also mentioned in several other Wikipedia articles as seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/?search=adoptopenjdk&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go&ns0=1
-- Gdams1 ( talk) 09:15, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
I'd like to request help in creation of the above page, any errors in format or refs or even additional information will be great. LOGIMUSIC ( talk) 09:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
This is a page that I created for a Vantaa City owned public school that offers education for free, thus this is not an advert as claimed by Theroadislong. A Finnish language page exits: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantaan_kansainv%C3%A4linen_koulu
Belena70 (
talk)
11:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Belena70. Writing may advertise or promote an organization even if that organization offers people a service without a fee, but let us set that problem aside for now.
- Whether a Finnish language page exists for the topic is irrelevant. Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to its own policies and guidelines, set by the community of editors who contribute there. A topic may be suitable for inclusion in the Finnish Wikipedia but not in the English one, or vice versa.
- This school teaches grades 1-9. On the English Wikipedia, primary and middle schools generally are not notable (not suitable for inclusion). Even if this school is notable for some special reason (perhaps the building is historic, or the school pioneered a revolutionary teaching technique), the draft has to demonstrate that by citing multiple, independent, reliable sources, including at least one from outside the immediate geographic area. The draft cites no sources. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 05:10, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Lateshkj (
talk)
11:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Dear Team, the article I wrote.. is more concentric on Brooks-Iyengar's algorithm real time use cases and its implementation around globe.
- Aislinnlily ( talk · contribs)
Hello, I am requesting a re-review of this page because I have edited it to the best of my ability to meet my earlier editor's suggestions, who declined the page for not meeting Wikipedia's notability standards. I have made several edits to the page to meet this standard:
- Regarding the two citations that note basic company data, I have clarified that these numbers reference the Company's 10-Q form with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is factual as it is filed with the SEC, submitted to governmental review and subject to auditing.
- I have also clarified that the sixth citation references an industry trade magazine's independent rankings of the industry, based on analysts' which cover the space's opinions.
- In order to add additional notable citations, I have added a new subsection to the history section, titled "other milestones". This section covers large milestones in the company's development, which were covered in dedicated pieces by large national real estate magazines and newspapers, including Commercial Property Executive, GlobeSt, and IPE Real Assets, as well as a broadly distributed news source Denver Business Journal.
After exchanging feedback with my former editor K.E.Coffman, I have worked to meet his expectations. As this is my first page, I am eager for any and all feedback regarding how I might improve the notability standards for this submission. I hope that my edits have supported the page. Thanks very much.
Aislinnlily (
talk)
15:04, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've commented on the draft. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 04:37, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Terrence Dewar ( talk · contribs)
Terrence Dewar ( talk) 15:39, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi could you assist in explaining why my article submission is "Contrary to the Wikipedia" so I can make the necessary changes. Thank you
- @ Terrence Dewar: - as I said above, it's contrary to the purposes because it reads as an advert. As a secondary issue, it fails as a crystal ball - Wikipedia generally doesn't cover things that don't exist yet, as there is too much chance of circumstances changing before it actually comes into existence. This increases the longer the time scale is. Nosebagbear ( talk) 21:31, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
-
Antolepore2 (
talk ·
contribs)
- No draft specified!
In relation to the draft
/info/en/?search=Draft:Antonio_Lepore
I wish I could solve the problem that I expose you here.
Thanks for your answer.
Unfortunately the situation is very complex.
I tried to insert my contribution on wikipedia italia but the administrators have gone crazy accused me of having defamed someone, of having written something fake etc. etc., I tried to convince that it was not like they said and I asked for help to wikipedia English but they proved to be accomplices of Wikipedia Italy and nobody defended me and nobody removed me the block that became global and on the IP address: 93.34.90.94
You can help me to remove the block of my original Antolepore account and the IP block: 93.34.90.94 so I can insert the text on Wikipedia Italy and then Wikipedia English.
Thank you
Antolepore2 (
talk)
17:05, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't believe this should currently be answered as the user appears to admit active Socking right here - I've raised an SPI case and notified. Nosebagbear ( talk) 21:42, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
hi is there a reviewer or writer who can in fact put forward my article, 'Yvonne Jones' it is about me, however it is also worthy of wiki Go art -X ( talk) 17:15, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- @ Go art -X: - we discourage autobiographies partly because it's very difficult to be neutral in them. However, there are more clearcut issues than neutrality ones here. Firstly, biographies must use inline referencces which link references to specific facts (the little blue numbers). Referencing for beginners can tell you how to do these. You also have a number of stated external links that don't actually link to anything, but would mostly be inappropriate if they did - your website could probably be justified but things like vimeo and youtube could not. You also need multiple reliable, independent in-depth references - I don't know what your first ref is like on this count (sounds promising), but your second (as your work) wouldn't count towards notability, though it might support certain non-controversial things. As a minor, but necessary point, you slip into the first person within the draft "my" etc, at a few points. Nosebagbear ( talk) 21:53, 28 May 2019 (UTC)