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FixtTeeth is a patented dental process. I don't see how I can explain it and NOT sound like an advertisement. FixtTeeth ( talk) 02:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC) FixtTeeth ( talk) 02:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello, FixtTeeth. It's often difficult for people closely connected to a subject to see it from an encyclopedic rather than a marketing point of view - that's why editors are not encouraged to write about subjects in which they have a conflict of interest. However, if you want to try:
- First of all, Wikipedia only has articles about subjects that have been written about extensively by authors who are not connected with the subject - in this case, perhaps dental experts writing in academic journals or magazines aimed at dentists, who are reviewing the product or process from a neutral point of view. If these published sources (not press releases or articles written by the company or the developers), can't be found, Wikipedia won't accept an article about the subject.
- If you do find some write-ups, read and see what the authors thought people would like to know. This includes any negative comments, such as perhaps situations in which the process should not be used, or side effects, etc. Then, add citations to show which source provided which piece of information. Rather than focusing on a sales pitch, write about the development of the product (who, why, when, where, etc.)
- One more thing - Wikipedia has a policy that usernames must represent individual people, not organizations, products or companies, so it's likely that your username will be blocked shortly as inappropriate. You may wish to either change your username or, when it's blocked, just make a new one that's more personal. Here's a link to the policy: Wikipedia:Username policy.
— Anne Delong ( talk) 05:51, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Luayac ( talk) 05:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Luayac, what is your question? I can tell you right now, you haven't followed the guidelines WP:Notability (academics, so you must read and follow that guideline to get any article about an academic published. Also, are you writing about yourself? If so, see WP:Autobiography for why this is a very bad idea. Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
I have submitted the article with satisfying all the requirement needed but it was declined.Garden Reach is the neighbourhood where I live but it is not on wikipedia so want the article to be created.Please review it and publise it on wikipedia. Ejaz92 ( talk) 05:56, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Ejaz92. Wikipedia accepts articles about cities, towns and villages, but because neighbourhoods are not "official" places, but part of another place, Wikipedia only has articles about neighbourhoods if they have been written about extensively in newspapers, magazines, books, or government documents. For example, HERE is a link about ship building, HERE is one about agriculture, and HERE is a historical one about a cotton mill, and ANOTHER historical one about the founding of a college. I used Google Books and I only looked for five minutes, so I'm sure you'll be able to find more. — Anne Delong ( talk) 06:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Nemeclnemecl ( talk · contribs)
proposing a new manual for Wikipedia - potentially a huge thing. A response from an actual person, no matter how brief, is needed.
Nemeclnemecl (
talk) 17:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- @
Nemeclnemecl:
Declined Sorry to tell you this, but
Wikipedia – The Missing Manual already exists. We already have a host of
tutorials. Further, if you want to write an essay, see
Wikipedia:Wikipedia essays. Finally, in what world does it make sense for a newcomer to write a manual? Perhaps you would like to see a manual and you should ask where you can find one, not proposing to us to help you write one.
Chris Troutman (
talk) 17:35, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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Nemeclnemecl (
talk ·
contribs)
- No draft specified!
Nemeclnemecl (
talk) 18:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
OK, the Wikipedia policy is, apparently, NO COMPREHENSIVE MANUALS. Obviously, it works, the results speak for themselves.
GIVING UP ON WORKING ON A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT FOR A MANUAL. I will never mention it again.
Will try to continue to edit a few pages that, in my opinion, need editing. The year 2015 just started.
I have no idea whether any actual person communicated with me but that's OK. As long as SOME of my edits are accepted, I will be happy.
I have one specific question, though.
Someone using the name Jan Arkesteijn deleted my sister's and my name from my edit of my brother's Jan Nemec article as his siblings. While my sister living in Prague insists in her email on having her name in the Wikipedia article, I personally cannot care less.
There may be a written policy about this minor issue somewhere on Wikipedia. WHERE?
This will have to be answered, I guess, by a real person and I CAN WAIT. Nemeclnemecl ( talk) 18:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Done
- Hello Nemeclnemecl, this page is only for questions about drafts, so I suggest you take the question about siblings to our catch-all discussion place for mentorship, WP:Teahouse. Lots of friendly folks there that like to answer very broad questions. I can try to answer in brief though.
- If you click the "History" tab you can see all changes made to the Nemec article, and the explanation. The editor who removed your names explained non notable people. Now, that's not meant as any insult, it's just noting that a reader has no particular need to be aware of Nemec's siblings, since as far as we understand at the moment, they are not individually famous people in their own right. To draw a more contrasting example, if Nemec was mentored in highschool by someone who later became the head of the Ministry of Art, we'd probably mention that Nemec had that teacher in highschool since that's a connection to another person our readers may want to read about. But we wouldn't list out other teachers he had who were not famous, because there's nothing really more to say about them other than just they exist and have a name. Does that make sense? Some of this is covered in our guideline WP:Notability is not inherited. Hope this helps. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
What the hell is SAFESUBST and PAGENAME and REVISIONUSER? Do you know English?
How dare you question the notability of Walter Russell? Have you any idea what he accomplished? Doesn't my article show his notability? Do you really want to reject this entry?
As to reliable sources, I have included as many as I can. He is not an "establishment" figure. He is not an academic, and I know wikipedia is prejudiced against persons who are not pointy-headed intellectuals.
Very little has been written about Walter Russell by the sources you fawn over. Go ahead, reject Walter Russell, and Wikipedia will be shown as the fraud I suspect it is. Charles Hardy
Chazhardy (
talk) 19:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Done
- Hello Chaz:
- You're getting upset because you don't understand the difference between "this person is not notable (important)" which is not what we're saying, and "your article fails to meet the sourcing requirements of our WP:Notability policy and you need to make the subject's qualifications per that policy more explicit and intelligible, which we are saying.
- Setting that aside, Wikipedia has had an article about Walter Bowman Russell for over 9 years. You can find it at: Walter Russell. So we aren't "questioning" anything. Please try to assume good faith rather than think folks are attacking you. Yes, some of the technical terms used in editing can be kind of dry, but "can someone explain what I need to do with my draft to conform to the Notability policy?" is going to get a much better response from us than a "how dare you". Basically, you're throwing quite a fit over an article that we've already had for nearly a decade while throwing asscusations of ignorance, fraud, etc. Can you see how that might make people disinclined to collaborate with you? MatthewVanitas ( talk) 20:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Request on 20:53:48, 1 January 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Highwoodpublishingny
The article has been declined due to copyright violation. We checked it following the link to "LinkedIn" profile of the profiled person, author Uri Norwich. It seems that we have used the same wording as used in the LinkedIn: "Realistic fiction novel writer. Specialty: modern historical novels, based on true events and geographies."
Is this the copyright violation?
If it is, we are only happy to re-word it and correct. Please let us know.
Also, where we can find the Draft submitted for your review, so we can edit it and resubmit?
many thanks for your help and time.
Highwoodpublishingny (
talk) 20:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Highwoodpublishingny (
talk) 20:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Highwoodpublishingny, there is no "we" allowed on Wikipedia. Accounts absolutely must belong to only one person, not belong to a PR team, or to a specific employment role that changes over time. I'm leaving info on your Talk page about how to modify your username. Please take care of that first, then come back here and we can proceed. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Request on 22:01:44, 1 January 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny
Firstly, I just have taken care of my "user name" issue, by changing it to the compliant one. I am an individual, as required. my name is Camilia, and the new user name is "Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny." Thank you for your guidance.
Now, to my bigger problem.
The article has been declined due to "copyright violation." I checked it, following the link you kindly provided to "LinkedIn" profile of the profiled person, author Uri Norwich. It seems that I have used the same wording as used in the LinkedIn: "Realistic fiction novel writer. Specialty: modern historical novels, based on true events and geographies." Is this the copyright violation?
1. If it is, I am only be happy to re-word it and correct. Please let me know.
2. Also, where I can find the Draft submitted for your review, so I can edit it and resubmit? Many thanks for your help and time. Respectfully, Camilia
Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny (
talk) 22:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny ( talk) 22:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny, thanks for taking the time to change your username, as we have a very strong "one account, one person" policy. Moving on to your next question, I can't see your draft now, but from what you describe, yes, copying a few sentences verbatim can trip the copyright sensor.
- In order to get back a copy of your draft so you can fix the copyvio issue and resubmit, please post your request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion and an admin can email you your draft. Just make sure you remove any copy-pasted/verbatim material before putting it back on Wikipedia. It can be a hassle, but it's just because we're very, very serious about respecting copyright here, so we tend to err on the very conservative side in tagging possible copying.
- Also, since you're writing about a person, I strongly advise you read WP:Notability (people), as that is the absolute first guideline a reviewer measures your draft against, so you want to be very sure your topic and sourcing meet the checks-in-the-box. Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 23:45, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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January 1 Information
FixtTeeth is a patented dental process. I don't see how I can explain it and NOT sound like an advertisement. FixtTeeth ( talk) 02:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC) FixtTeeth ( talk) 02:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello, FixtTeeth. It's often difficult for people closely connected to a subject to see it from an encyclopedic rather than a marketing point of view - that's why editors are not encouraged to write about subjects in which they have a conflict of interest. However, if you want to try:
- First of all, Wikipedia only has articles about subjects that have been written about extensively by authors who are not connected with the subject - in this case, perhaps dental experts writing in academic journals or magazines aimed at dentists, who are reviewing the product or process from a neutral point of view. If these published sources (not press releases or articles written by the company or the developers), can't be found, Wikipedia won't accept an article about the subject.
- If you do find some write-ups, read and see what the authors thought people would like to know. This includes any negative comments, such as perhaps situations in which the process should not be used, or side effects, etc. Then, add citations to show which source provided which piece of information. Rather than focusing on a sales pitch, write about the development of the product (who, why, when, where, etc.)
- One more thing - Wikipedia has a policy that usernames must represent individual people, not organizations, products or companies, so it's likely that your username will be blocked shortly as inappropriate. You may wish to either change your username or, when it's blocked, just make a new one that's more personal. Here's a link to the policy: Wikipedia:Username policy.
— Anne Delong ( talk) 05:51, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Luayac ( talk) 05:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Luayac, what is your question? I can tell you right now, you haven't followed the guidelines WP:Notability (academics, so you must read and follow that guideline to get any article about an academic published. Also, are you writing about yourself? If so, see WP:Autobiography for why this is a very bad idea. Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
I have submitted the article with satisfying all the requirement needed but it was declined.Garden Reach is the neighbourhood where I live but it is not on wikipedia so want the article to be created.Please review it and publise it on wikipedia. Ejaz92 ( talk) 05:56, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Ejaz92. Wikipedia accepts articles about cities, towns and villages, but because neighbourhoods are not "official" places, but part of another place, Wikipedia only has articles about neighbourhoods if they have been written about extensively in newspapers, magazines, books, or government documents. For example, HERE is a link about ship building, HERE is one about agriculture, and HERE is a historical one about a cotton mill, and ANOTHER historical one about the founding of a college. I used Google Books and I only looked for five minutes, so I'm sure you'll be able to find more. — Anne Delong ( talk) 06:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Nemeclnemecl ( talk · contribs)
proposing a new manual for Wikipedia - potentially a huge thing. A response from an actual person, no matter how brief, is needed.
Nemeclnemecl (
talk) 17:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- @
Nemeclnemecl:
Declined Sorry to tell you this, but
Wikipedia – The Missing Manual already exists. We already have a host of
tutorials. Further, if you want to write an essay, see
Wikipedia:Wikipedia essays. Finally, in what world does it make sense for a newcomer to write a manual? Perhaps you would like to see a manual and you should ask where you can find one, not proposing to us to help you write one.
Chris Troutman (
talk) 17:35, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
-
Nemeclnemecl (
talk ·
contribs)
- No draft specified!
Nemeclnemecl (
talk) 18:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
OK, the Wikipedia policy is, apparently, NO COMPREHENSIVE MANUALS. Obviously, it works, the results speak for themselves.
GIVING UP ON WORKING ON A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT FOR A MANUAL. I will never mention it again.
Will try to continue to edit a few pages that, in my opinion, need editing. The year 2015 just started.
I have no idea whether any actual person communicated with me but that's OK. As long as SOME of my edits are accepted, I will be happy.
I have one specific question, though.
Someone using the name Jan Arkesteijn deleted my sister's and my name from my edit of my brother's Jan Nemec article as his siblings. While my sister living in Prague insists in her email on having her name in the Wikipedia article, I personally cannot care less.
There may be a written policy about this minor issue somewhere on Wikipedia. WHERE?
This will have to be answered, I guess, by a real person and I CAN WAIT. Nemeclnemecl ( talk) 18:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Done
- Hello Nemeclnemecl, this page is only for questions about drafts, so I suggest you take the question about siblings to our catch-all discussion place for mentorship, WP:Teahouse. Lots of friendly folks there that like to answer very broad questions. I can try to answer in brief though.
- If you click the "History" tab you can see all changes made to the Nemec article, and the explanation. The editor who removed your names explained non notable people. Now, that's not meant as any insult, it's just noting that a reader has no particular need to be aware of Nemec's siblings, since as far as we understand at the moment, they are not individually famous people in their own right. To draw a more contrasting example, if Nemec was mentored in highschool by someone who later became the head of the Ministry of Art, we'd probably mention that Nemec had that teacher in highschool since that's a connection to another person our readers may want to read about. But we wouldn't list out other teachers he had who were not famous, because there's nothing really more to say about them other than just they exist and have a name. Does that make sense? Some of this is covered in our guideline WP:Notability is not inherited. Hope this helps. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
What the hell is SAFESUBST and PAGENAME and REVISIONUSER? Do you know English?
How dare you question the notability of Walter Russell? Have you any idea what he accomplished? Doesn't my article show his notability? Do you really want to reject this entry?
As to reliable sources, I have included as many as I can. He is not an "establishment" figure. He is not an academic, and I know wikipedia is prejudiced against persons who are not pointy-headed intellectuals.
Very little has been written about Walter Russell by the sources you fawn over. Go ahead, reject Walter Russell, and Wikipedia will be shown as the fraud I suspect it is. Charles Hardy
Chazhardy (
talk) 19:41, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Done
- Hello Chaz:
- You're getting upset because you don't understand the difference between "this person is not notable (important)" which is not what we're saying, and "your article fails to meet the sourcing requirements of our WP:Notability policy and you need to make the subject's qualifications per that policy more explicit and intelligible, which we are saying.
- Setting that aside, Wikipedia has had an article about Walter Bowman Russell for over 9 years. You can find it at: Walter Russell. So we aren't "questioning" anything. Please try to assume good faith rather than think folks are attacking you. Yes, some of the technical terms used in editing can be kind of dry, but "can someone explain what I need to do with my draft to conform to the Notability policy?" is going to get a much better response from us than a "how dare you". Basically, you're throwing quite a fit over an article that we've already had for nearly a decade while throwing asscusations of ignorance, fraud, etc. Can you see how that might make people disinclined to collaborate with you? MatthewVanitas ( talk) 20:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Request on 20:53:48, 1 January 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Highwoodpublishingny
The article has been declined due to copyright violation. We checked it following the link to "LinkedIn" profile of the profiled person, author Uri Norwich. It seems that we have used the same wording as used in the LinkedIn: "Realistic fiction novel writer. Specialty: modern historical novels, based on true events and geographies."
Is this the copyright violation?
If it is, we are only happy to re-word it and correct. Please let us know.
Also, where we can find the Draft submitted for your review, so we can edit it and resubmit?
many thanks for your help and time.
Highwoodpublishingny (
talk) 20:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Highwoodpublishingny (
talk) 20:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Highwoodpublishingny, there is no "we" allowed on Wikipedia. Accounts absolutely must belong to only one person, not belong to a PR team, or to a specific employment role that changes over time. I'm leaving info on your Talk page about how to modify your username. Please take care of that first, then come back here and we can proceed. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Request on 22:01:44, 1 January 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny
Firstly, I just have taken care of my "user name" issue, by changing it to the compliant one. I am an individual, as required. my name is Camilia, and the new user name is "Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny." Thank you for your guidance.
Now, to my bigger problem.
The article has been declined due to "copyright violation." I checked it, following the link you kindly provided to "LinkedIn" profile of the profiled person, author Uri Norwich. It seems that I have used the same wording as used in the LinkedIn: "Realistic fiction novel writer. Specialty: modern historical novels, based on true events and geographies." Is this the copyright violation?
1. If it is, I am only be happy to re-word it and correct. Please let me know.
2. Also, where I can find the Draft submitted for your review, so I can edit it and resubmit? Many thanks for your help and time. Respectfully, Camilia
Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny (
talk) 22:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny ( talk) 22:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hello Camilia-Highwoodpublishingny, thanks for taking the time to change your username, as we have a very strong "one account, one person" policy. Moving on to your next question, I can't see your draft now, but from what you describe, yes, copying a few sentences verbatim can trip the copyright sensor.
- In order to get back a copy of your draft so you can fix the copyvio issue and resubmit, please post your request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion and an admin can email you your draft. Just make sure you remove any copy-pasted/verbatim material before putting it back on Wikipedia. It can be a hassle, but it's just because we're very, very serious about respecting copyright here, so we tend to err on the very conservative side in tagging possible copying.
- Also, since you're writing about a person, I strongly advise you read WP:Notability (people), as that is the absolute first guideline a reviewer measures your draft against, so you want to be very sure your topic and sourcing meet the checks-in-the-box. Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 23:45, 1 January 2015 (UTC)