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It appears that an article by this name was already deleted. This one is about the girl rather than being a fan letter to her. Non-notable. DCEdwards1966 07:09, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

Previous VfD

Almost patent nonsense, but not quite. Such a shame. -- fvw * 23:14, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)

  • Yes, it was most definitely patent nonsense. Deleted as such. Rick K 23:42, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • It's quite clear there was no consensus, since even the two of you did not agree. Yet again, RickK has acted unilaterally, without any regard for other editors' views. Dr Zen 00:08, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • The contents were "hey nika i'm Bartek i'm look you in eurovizja I saw you in Eurovision... I have 13 years old and I love you Nika you have msn or skype ??. I saw you in Eurovision... I have 13 years old and I love you I'm from poland i I think that you are beautifull... Your song is the best Nika plz write is me e-mail my e-mail is Szperek1@poczta.onet.pl ok bye". Now explain how that is not speedy delete material. Rick K 05:27, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
      • Rick, all I am saying, you'll note, is that clearly Fvw does not agree and that you have acted unilaterally without regard for his views. Which part of that are you taking issue with? Dr Zen 06:36, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • delete and move to BJAODN -- WhiteDragon 00:27, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

End previous VfD

This version is not the speedy delete candidate that the above was (and the other was speedy delete material, no matter what Dr. Zen says.) This version is, however, non-notable. Delete. Rick K 08:46, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

  • Very weak keep. Very very very weak unless someone can figure out if she's famous in Croatia. -- JuntungWu 12:25, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Her ONLY claim to fame so far is placing 3rd in a talent contest. That by itself does not equal encyclopedic notability. She's very cute and may well be famous some day, but that day is not today. Starblind 15:31, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete non-notable Cdc 18:03, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not notable. - R. fiend 18:20, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Please try again when you're notable. Carrp 18:29, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral.Weak keep. If we delete her, we need to take a serious look at all the linked names at Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2004, which is probably why she was created. Redlinks that lead to VfDs when 'fulfilled' discourage new editors. Niteowlneils 18:49, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
PS Being the sole representative of her country in an international contest is surely more notable than being a loser on The Apprentice, Big Brother, Survivor, etc. that people often vote to keep. Niteowlneils 18:57, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Agree with niteowlneils. Keep. Tuf-Kat 22:27, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)
  • I was going to give a weak keep, but now I'll give a full keep having seen the bio on her site. "In 2004 she wrote two songs for the Junior Eurovision Song Contest. She sang 'Hej Mail' (Hey, Little Boy) for the national final, which she was voted the winner out of 12 finalists. Her 2nd song 'I can' which was performed by another girl who was awarded 4th place. [sic]." Multiple decent songwriting credits at the age of nine? I understand the reluctance to include everybody who's seen as a televised karaoke contestant, but this accomplishment seems distinct and notable enough. Samaritan 00:55, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment If anything, I would think that having only two songs in her reportoire would be a pretty strong evidence that she's not a serious musician yet. Note that the bio does not suggest any forthcoming albums, singles, tours, concerts, appearances, or anything at all for that matter. The last line is (and I swear I'm not making this up) "Her favourite food is Chicken Wings!" I'm not saying she'll never be famous or encyclopedic, but we have to go with what we have now, not potential for the future. Starblind 01:13, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, not notable. Megan1967 04:18, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, Eurovision contestants, like reality show participants, are not inherently encyclopedic. Wyss 07:30, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, Since the competition Nika has appeared on TV several times and sang at concerts with other famous Croats. She has written other songs but they won't be released until she is a little older. She has had a CD released in Croatia, not bad for a 9 year old. I know there are plans for the future. Personally I think the fact she appeared in a Eurovision contest is the reason for her in this deletion list. She's achieved much more than most Eurovision contestants. She is famous in her home country. markeandrews@gmail.com19:17, 14 Jan 2005 (GMT)
    • Above vote was made by an anonymous editor. -- fvw * 01:24, 2005 Jan 15 (UTC)
  • Keep I'd like to see both pages. Because she appeared on the Junior E.S.C. she's far more famous than 99% of the pop bands and "artists" listed on here. Who are non-entities to the vast majority of the western world and have never been heard of by almost anyone over 40. I think it's discriminating against whoever wrote it to delete it. It can be improved but should be kept by the criteria used at this site. Where can one see the page we're voting on? WikiUser 17:44, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I make it 4 keeps and 6 deletes on the 2nd page. WikiUser 17:59, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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It appears that an article by this name was already deleted. This one is about the girl rather than being a fan letter to her. Non-notable. DCEdwards1966 07:09, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

Previous VfD

Almost patent nonsense, but not quite. Such a shame. -- fvw * 23:14, 2004 Nov 27 (UTC)

  • Yes, it was most definitely patent nonsense. Deleted as such. Rick K 23:42, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • It's quite clear there was no consensus, since even the two of you did not agree. Yet again, RickK has acted unilaterally, without any regard for other editors' views. Dr Zen 00:08, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • The contents were "hey nika i'm Bartek i'm look you in eurovizja I saw you in Eurovision... I have 13 years old and I love you Nika you have msn or skype ??. I saw you in Eurovision... I have 13 years old and I love you I'm from poland i I think that you are beautifull... Your song is the best Nika plz write is me e-mail my e-mail is Szperek1@poczta.onet.pl ok bye". Now explain how that is not speedy delete material. Rick K 05:27, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
      • Rick, all I am saying, you'll note, is that clearly Fvw does not agree and that you have acted unilaterally without regard for his views. Which part of that are you taking issue with? Dr Zen 06:36, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • delete and move to BJAODN -- WhiteDragon 00:27, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

End previous VfD

This version is not the speedy delete candidate that the above was (and the other was speedy delete material, no matter what Dr. Zen says.) This version is, however, non-notable. Delete. Rick K 08:46, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

  • Very weak keep. Very very very weak unless someone can figure out if she's famous in Croatia. -- JuntungWu 12:25, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Her ONLY claim to fame so far is placing 3rd in a talent contest. That by itself does not equal encyclopedic notability. She's very cute and may well be famous some day, but that day is not today. Starblind 15:31, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete non-notable Cdc 18:03, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not notable. - R. fiend 18:20, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Please try again when you're notable. Carrp 18:29, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral.Weak keep. If we delete her, we need to take a serious look at all the linked names at Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2004, which is probably why she was created. Redlinks that lead to VfDs when 'fulfilled' discourage new editors. Niteowlneils 18:49, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
PS Being the sole representative of her country in an international contest is surely more notable than being a loser on The Apprentice, Big Brother, Survivor, etc. that people often vote to keep. Niteowlneils 18:57, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Agree with niteowlneils. Keep. Tuf-Kat 22:27, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)
  • I was going to give a weak keep, but now I'll give a full keep having seen the bio on her site. "In 2004 she wrote two songs for the Junior Eurovision Song Contest. She sang 'Hej Mail' (Hey, Little Boy) for the national final, which she was voted the winner out of 12 finalists. Her 2nd song 'I can' which was performed by another girl who was awarded 4th place. [sic]." Multiple decent songwriting credits at the age of nine? I understand the reluctance to include everybody who's seen as a televised karaoke contestant, but this accomplishment seems distinct and notable enough. Samaritan 00:55, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment If anything, I would think that having only two songs in her reportoire would be a pretty strong evidence that she's not a serious musician yet. Note that the bio does not suggest any forthcoming albums, singles, tours, concerts, appearances, or anything at all for that matter. The last line is (and I swear I'm not making this up) "Her favourite food is Chicken Wings!" I'm not saying she'll never be famous or encyclopedic, but we have to go with what we have now, not potential for the future. Starblind 01:13, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, not notable. Megan1967 04:18, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, Eurovision contestants, like reality show participants, are not inherently encyclopedic. Wyss 07:30, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, Since the competition Nika has appeared on TV several times and sang at concerts with other famous Croats. She has written other songs but they won't be released until she is a little older. She has had a CD released in Croatia, not bad for a 9 year old. I know there are plans for the future. Personally I think the fact she appeared in a Eurovision contest is the reason for her in this deletion list. She's achieved much more than most Eurovision contestants. She is famous in her home country. markeandrews@gmail.com19:17, 14 Jan 2005 (GMT)
    • Above vote was made by an anonymous editor. -- fvw * 01:24, 2005 Jan 15 (UTC)
  • Keep I'd like to see both pages. Because she appeared on the Junior E.S.C. she's far more famous than 99% of the pop bands and "artists" listed on here. Who are non-entities to the vast majority of the western world and have never been heard of by almost anyone over 40. I think it's discriminating against whoever wrote it to delete it. It can be improved but should be kept by the criteria used at this site. Where can one see the page we're voting on? WikiUser 17:44, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I make it 4 keeps and 6 deletes on the 2nd page. WikiUser 17:59, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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