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Why do I keep finding myself involuntarily logged off when I am about to post my article? Is there a time limit? Or is there some bug that logs me off when I press "save page"? Dr Adam Carr 12:12, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Okay, I'm still confused: What exactly is the relationship between, and the policy regarding linking between the Wikipedia and the Wiktionary. I saw several red links edited into Wiktionary links, at which point...I became confused. My basic question is which is preferable, if there is a definition on Wiktionary, but no article on Wikipedia, should we leave a red link or link to Wiktionary (and perhaps add to the requested list)? Thanks in advance for any help/clarification/sympathetic nods, Paige 21:17, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Hmm... we seem to have blocked 25 AOL proxies. I've just received a query from an AOL user, I wouldn't be surprised if Angela has received a few. I think a change to the "you are blocked" message is in order. See Wikipedia:You have been blocked for my proposal (soon to be implemented). -- Tim Starling 02:41, Sep 20, 2003 (UTC)
I would like to order the Girls Gone Wild live from spring break (2003). How do I go by getting it through your company wikpedia. How much would it cost and how and where do I send payment. Please inform me about this asap.
Could anyone familiar with either or both of these two tunes: God Save the Queen and the Prussian hymn Heil Dir Im Siegerkranz take a moment to visit Hawai'i pono'i, go to the reference link at the bottom, listen to the Hawai'i anthem and see if my statement "The melody is reminiscent of God Save the Queen, but based upon the Prussian hymn,Heil Dir Im Siegerkranz" is correct or not?
Moved to Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy/Deletions, where to build pages and evolution of conventions
Moved to Wikipedia talk:IP block'
moved to Wikipedia talk:How to log in
Moved to: Wikipedia talk:Sites that use Wikipedia for content.
I would like a second opinion on what counts as advertising/spam etc. I removed an external link ( CARDSHARK Online) from a number of articles ( Crimp, Three card monte, Card game, Confidence trick, Holdout, Gambling, Cardsharps etc) and have now had an e-mail from the poster of them who said the following: (permission to reprint this extract was given): "I included a link to my web site along with both of my contributions simply because it is a related link for anyone who wishes to find out more on the subject described on the page... I feel that my contributions should include links to my site whenever relevant. I feel so because it is good to provide visitors with reputable follow up links and also because it is a way to reward me for my efforts."
Any thoughts? Angela 03:37, Sep 20, 2003 (UTC)
My approach is generally to remove such links (not always immediately, but eventually, and boldly), and trust that if someone found them useful, I would be reverted (as I was on
List of gay movies. This seems to work quite well.
Martin 14:22, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
With the Israbot adding to the output of Rambot and others a lot of 'statty' settlement articles are being created.
IMO these articles are non-encyclopedic and are cluttering the main namespace (I'd also say they are valueless additions, but there you go ;). I think it is time for a gazatteer.wikipedia.org, or similar, to hold these articles. TwoOneTwo 21:16, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
If you've got some comments on Rambot (to stay or to delete), drop a note @ User talk:Rambot/Delete. -- Menchi 00:36, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
They are distorting the value of Wikipedia content, especially article counts and size counts into giving an unwarranted impression of the depth of Wikipedia. I'm not saying delete I'm saying move, like the sep11 material they are specialised and not generally usable. With a separate namespace for the raw articles, as and when they are improved they can be moved back. TwoOneTwo 14:29, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
An encyclopedia is not an almanac! I think we should take a stand on this. An encyclopedia article is human-written and gives context, weighs relevance, etc. Bot-entries are not articles, they're data. If I want raw data on every county in the US for example, I go to an almanac; if I want context, filtered by a knowledgable human, I go to an encyclopedia. In an encyclopedia, I can rely on the fact that someone has taken the time to include the important facts and leave out the cruft. That's why I went there, and not to the almanac. I'd like to see Wikipedia is not an almanac added to the basic tenets of Wikipedia. Axlrosen 22:37, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
What is Wikipedia style for pronouns used for countries? For instance on the French Fifth Republic page, the feminine pronouns are used (presumably because la France is feminine in French) but in United States, the neuter pronouns are used. I don't have a stylebook on me now, but I believe AP style says neuter. If we don't already have a style it seems that that's what it should be. Basil Fawlty 16:00, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
[http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Elizabeth-II-of-the-United-Kingdom http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Elizabeth-II-of-the-United-Kingdom] Nationmaster is one of those websites which, for some reason, is mirroring the wikipedia. They do credit their source. It is odd that they were the "Yahoo! Pick of the Day" but we arent. Pizza Puzzle
IANAL, but Pete - I suggest that if you believe that a third party (or indeed Wikipedia) is using your content in a way contrary to the terms of your license under the GFDL, then you write to them stating the problem. You may also wish to take legal advice on the matter. Martin 09:00, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I remember a page, wich i belive was on the metawikipedia, which was a debate about whether a new system should be adapted relating to the deletion of certain content including copyright infringment. The debate specifically was about how just about anybody could become a sysop, and thus the content that was deleted was still widely available, and that perhaps there should be a system to delete a page so that not even a sysop can see what it used to contain. Does anybody remember this article? if so and it still exists could you post a link to it? Thanks. Tacvek 04:30, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Just as an experiment, I searched in Google for topics I was interested in/ contributed to/ created/ whatever in Wikipedia. In many a case, Wikipedia articles seem to feature within the first two pages! Has something changed so that the whole site has a better weightage, or is it something to do with individual articles? I had tried a month ago and did not get any hits.In any case, I think the responsibility of giving factual information has increased tremendously. KRS 03:03, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
So when is it coming back? Wikipedia is virtually unusable without some kind of search capability. Even a link to Google would be nice, like the last time. RickK 19:47, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
For those who already cast their votes on the meta, BEWARE:
Your vote would be invalid if you do not have an separate account on meta or if you homepage on meta does not redirect to your homepage on a wikipedia project of which you have more than 10 contributions.
My own vote was classified as invalid! I make my homepage a redirect now and hope it is fixed. But there are still wikipedians do not know that.
- wshun 19:12, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Move to User talk:Cardshark
I would like a second opinion on what counts as advertising/spam etc. I removed an external link ( CARDSHARK Online) from a number of articles ( Crimp, Three card monte, Card game, Confidence trick, Holdout, Gambling, Cardsharps etc) and have now had an e-mail from the poster of them who said the following: (permission to reprint this extract was given): "I included a link to my web site along with both of my contributions simply because it is a related link for anyone who wishes to find out more on the subject described on the page... I feel that my contributions should include links to my site whenever relevant. I feel so because it is good to provide visitors with reputable follow up links and also because it is a way to reward me for my efforts."
Any thoughts? Angela 03:37, Sep 20, 2003 (UTC)
My approach is generally to remove such links (not always immediately, but eventually, and boldly), and trust that if someone found them useful, I would be reverted (as I was on
List of gay movies. This seems to work quite well.
Martin 14:22, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Wikipedia is currently unuseable because you can't get to any articles without a wait of upwards of five minutes. Is the Israel bot responsible, or just what is the problem? RickK 01:42, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Why do some pages ( my homepage for example) appear with the first line of the first paragraph slightly indented? It is not very attractive. What would would be attractive (IMHO) would be a convention to have a three-line drop-capital ( like this) at the start of each article. Perhaps the style committee could look into it. Dr Adam Carr 01:00, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
This is a problem with the [edit] link. If you put two blank lines at the beginning of the article or page, it goes away. RickK 01:24, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Are we supposed to give phonetics in SAMPA or IPA? IPA should work with all browsers correctly handling Unicode. The WikiPedia renderer could do on-the-fly translation to ASCII for the remaining browsers. David.Monniaux 23:40, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I believe that signatures should link to the talk page -- since, almost always when I click on a signature -- it is to write that person a message. LirQ
When I receive a talk page message, I am not notified. LirQ
26 september 2003.
Subject: Questions about ozone and the ozonelayer.
My first visit to the villagepump. I am Frans, an old dutchman with a very inquisitive mind. Shortly I got access to internet and that was reason for me to visit several encyclopedia, looking for information about above mebtioned subjects. I am very astonished about the controversial statements i met and are now looking for someone who can and will explain things to me.
Now for the first problems. According to the Columbia, the Brittanica, the Encarta and also Wikipedia; Ozone is formed by the action of ultraviolet light (UV) on oxygen. Ultraviolet light is absorbed when it strikes an ozone molecule (see Columbia); the molecule is split into atomoc and diatomoc oxigen, Later in the presence of a catalyst, the atomic and diatomic oxygen reunite to form oxygen.
So, as long as there is oxygen ozone is formed. And, UV is absorbed by splitting ozone molecules. The ozone is recycled. The impossible conclusion is, that the amount of oxygen increases. So why bother about depletion af the ozonelaer bij certain chemical compounds?
I have more questions including the some marked 'energie'but enough for now.
Frans
I did some work on a page that I would hope is more neutral than it was, but it is still on the NPOV list: fluoride. Since I know one can't simply delete the NPOV disclaimer at the top by rule, and I don't know of a page that says 'Check this page because work was done on it', how is said designation retired from a page that (I hope) doesn't need it anymore? Thanks... Skybunny 01:38, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Phew! I can't believe I've ended up in this maze of tech-y stuff. All I want to know is if the persons who killed Joy Adamson (authoress of " Born Free") were ever caught? I have just finished reading her last book " Queen of Shaba" wherein she was doing research on a leopard named Penny - which was never fully completed because of her death. (OhGodhowinthehelldoImailthisnow)???
According to http://www.vayulila.com/TheCave/Voice-Adamsons.html, "a 23 year old former employee Paul Ekai was convicted of the murder, apparently committed after a dispute over money." RickK 01:27, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
(see also #Ad?)
I would like a second opinion on what counts as 'advertising.' I added external links in relevant places ('Babel', 'Tower of Babel', 'Languages' etc.) to my non-commercial website (towerofbabel.com) which is actually another multilingual project similar to Wikipedia named Babel (and if you are familiar with the myth of the tower of Babel you would understand its relevance, because the entire je nais se quoi is based on the paradigm of the myth.) I fail to see how these links would be construed as 'irrelevant' or as 'advertising.' I assume the person who deleted my external links didn't even bother to look at the site.
(see also #Relevance)
All this Anon did is linking to many articles to his website, like this:
And it's always bolded and placed 1st, before all other obviously more irrelvant-to-subject links.
And that's all he did. No actual contribution. His website seems to be of little relevance to most of our article, if not all. The Chinese version seems to be just of one page, and machine-translated ( pietà is translated as piñata).
What do you think? Is that link valuable addition to Wikipedia? If not, they should be reverted. -- Menchi 04:10, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
He's now doing the same under the name
Malcs64.
Angela
All this Anon did is linking to many articles to his website, like this:
And it's always bolded and placed 1st, before all other obviously more irrelvant-to-subject links.
And that's all he did. No actual contribution. His website seems to be of little relevance to most of our article, if not all. The Chinese version seems to be just of one page, and machine-translated ( pietà is translated as piñata).
What do you think? Is that link valuable addition to Wikipedia? If not, they should be reverted. -- Menchi 04:10, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
He's now doing the same under the name Malcs64. Angela
I would like a second opinion on what counts as 'advertising.' I added external links in relevant places ('Babel', 'Tower of Babel', 'Languages' etc.) to my non-commercial website (towerofbabel.com) which is actually another multilingual project similar to Wikipedia named Babel (and if you are familiar with the myth of the tower of Babel you would understand its relevance, because the entire je nais se quoi is based on the paradigm of the myth.) I fail to see how these links would be construed as 'irrelevant' or as 'advertising.' I assume the person who deleted my external links didn't even bother to look at the site.
1)Anyone have any idea when/if the Upload function is going to return? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 20:06, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
2)Errors occur when moving pages (talk pages left behind and error messages occur) - submitted to Sourceforge.
Tried to go to Cyan's talk page but all I get is a blank white screen. Anyone else see this or is it unique to me? Thanks Ark30inf 01:26, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I'm having the same problem. Vancouverguy 01:51, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
It still doesn't work on Internet Explorer. Vancouverguy 02:04, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Boy, am I ever glad the Village pump is on my watchlist; otherwise I would never have found out about Camembert's handy link. I was starting to go into withdrawal. -- Cyan 02:37, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Keep quiet about this, or BuddhaInside will want to have a white talk page, too. —Eloquence
I have an animation program which takes images and creates an animated .gif. In some articles, there has been a great deal of argument about which images to include. Is there any objection to have an animated image which displays a different picture every X seconds? LirQ
Such an animation would allow their to be more than one picture shown in the space where only one picture currently is. On an ever growing list of articles, pictures are being deleted because there "isnt room for them" -- although, I personally believe there is plenty of room. (im thinking primarily of photos of persons) LirQ
Well, if we don't use an animated gif, and people complain that there are "too many pictures"; then, we wind up not showing the images at all -- and I think thats far more tacky. LirQ
On the Anniversaries part of the main page, for today ( September 22), it lists Ferdinand Magellan and Carl XVI Gustav of Sweden. Glancing at their pages, I see -nothing- to connect either of them to this date. What's that about? -- Jake 10:27, 2003 Sep 22 (UTC)
Please remember to write a brief summary when you do your edits. This makes life a lot easier for all of us when we look at page histories and recent changes. thanks! Kingturtle 19:02, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I accidentally moved Ya to whatever russian charecter it was to conform to A, B, C, etc., and messed up the "move page" button.
moved from VfD by 140.190.66.4
moved from VfD by User:TakuyaMurata
I believe the page at Prime Minster of the United Kingdom is just wrong. My book disagrees, as does http://www.btinternet.com/~spansoft/data/tl_brpm.txt -- both of my sources agree with one another. In particular, take a look at the dates regarding Pitt the Elder and Lord Bute. (1757) LirQ
Excuse me! How long has everyone other than me known that ordinary users can move protected pages? User:BuddhaInside at least seems to be well-acquainted with the phenomenon.
I quickly hacked both webservers so that you can't move a protected page. Sysops can't move them either, that's why it qualifies as a "quick hack". A page must be unprotected before it can be moved. Also, the error message just says "invalid article" or something. -- Tim Starling 04:18, Sep 25, 2003 (UTC)
I believe the page at Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is just wrong. My book disagrees, as does http://www.btinternet.com/~spansoft/data/tl_brpm.txt -- both of my sources agree with one another. In particular, take a look at the dates regarding Pitt the Elder and Lord Bute. (1757) LirQ
This is about as good a place as any to ask I guess; I was about to start looking up info to write a stub on David G. Monette (on the wanted articles list for over a year). Turns out he's head of a company that manufactures mouthpieces for musical instruments. He gets 300 Google hits with the initial. (There are 4000 without, but most seem to be about an unrelated artist). Is this really encyclopedia-worthy? It would be aggravating to do the looking-up for an article that's just going to be deleted anyway. - Hephaestos 19:13, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
200 is way too low! BL, you get more than that and as Martin recently pointed out, he gets more than 500. 3.8 million Google hits Angela 20:51, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
In the Catalan Wikipedia we have more than 60 wrong pages that we want to delete but nobody can do it. Where I have to request the permition? Llull 18:26, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
We have an article on O.W.L.s but not on O levels. This is depressing. -- Tarquin 09:47, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I took this statement from a photo description page at Wikipedia: Released under the GFDL; all other rights reserved. What other rights might exist to be reserved? - Marshman 02:52, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I uploaded a photo of a person awhile back. I named the file after the person's name, but spelled it incorrectly. I used the mispelled image name in the article about the person, so everything there looks okay. But I don't feel comfortable leaving the image spelled incorrectly. Is there a way to rename an image? What I would prefer to do is upload the image file again under the correct spelling and fix the link in the article. Then, delete the old image file. But to delete the image file, I believe I need to put it up for a vote for deletion. Does all of this sound oaky to you folks? Of course, I can't do any of this until uploads are reactivated. -- Fernkes 00:43, Sep 25, 2003 (UTC)
Can someone please revert radical behaviorism ? It has had (unintentional ?) gibberish added. Thanks - Vaughan 20:48, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
"The mean article size was about 1997 bytes, or roughly 332 words: the median article size was smaller, at roughly 980 bytes, or roughly 163 words." From: Wikipedia:Size_comparisons.
Meaning, that this is the average size article, and that something like this article is about the halfway mark -- roughly half of all articles are smaller. It's a stub though-- which is my point. Those in the m:deletionist camp (sorry I been out for a few) -- who tend to want to get rid of articles on the basis of their stubbiness alone might try looking at this logically. Meaning like it or not, much of that 6,852,598 in Wikipedia, is made of stubs. - 戴眩sv 19:16, Sep 23, 2003 (UTC)
Exactly my point. Some would call write-through (as it was when I used it as an example) too small to be called an "article". - 戴眩sv 19:51, Sep 23, 2003 (UTC)
They are the wikifaithless deletionists, and they are many- I stand corrected. GTR, BBL 戴眩sv 19:55, Sep 23, 2003 (UTC)
I wouldn't call those stubs. It's "articles" like Josh Kalis that deletionists have a problem with. A deletionist.
Well, considering that that anon user wasnt a wack-- he did actually edit a few other unrelated articles, we can assume that its not totally nonsense. What the heck I did a google search and came up with some info-- I added a link, made it a redirect to a more general category-- Whaddyaknow? Theres no skateboarder category. So I added one. I added Tony Hawk-- who I think is related to the subject, though I cant be sure, and the micro-granularity problem of a Josh Kalis article was solved in just as much time as it would have taken to add it to VFD -- A typical salvationist
Where's the Find a random short article button so deletionists and others can find and expand random stubs when bored?:) Has to beat looking in recent changes, which by definition are something someone just worked on and is therefore more likely than average to continue working on and expand. JamesDay 22:18, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I just don't understand why my contribution on Sir T.B.'s library has been voted for deletion. Surely it is of interest to read a SHORT sample of the library contents of one of early modern Europe's encyclopaedists ? Perhaps no-one recognises the titles ?? But i discern exactly where this this grandiose project is coming from by the fact that of the 100000's of articles written as of yet not one upon the Working Class!! (see Proletariat perhaps) . What an indictment of the interests and sociology of Wiki Contributers!! I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with the elitism of wikipedia and shall broadcast these facts far and wide across the web should this page be removed,.The off-hand way by which decisions are made is a bit disturbing. Contact the poster, don't vote behind their back ! The Norwikian
I remember writing an article a while back on this dude-- I was looking for it--it's not there anymore, nor is it in "deleted pages"-- can a developer please take a look, whenever time permits? Im curious as to who deleted it and why.-- 戴眩sv 00:35, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Am I the only person here who is bothered by the recent banning of EntmootsOfTrolls? The stated reason for the ban was that he supposedly made a death threat against RK. However, anybody who reads what he wrote, and examines the context in which he wrote it, and who chooses to understand the English language, can see that it was merely a rhetorical flourish, and by no stretch of the imagination any kind of a threat. I appreciate that EoT was not the easiest contributor to get along with, but the same is true of many others here, not least RK. EoT has clearly been treated unjustly. I can't be the only person who has noticed this. Why will nobody else stand up for him? Are you all afraid of RK's hectoring? Please go to User talk:EntmootsOfTrolls/ban and make a fuss. GrahamN 19:41, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
As far as I am concerned EOT's ban was perfectly justified and long overdue.
FearÉIREANN 20:24, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Am I the only person here who is bothered by the recent banning of EntmootsOfTrolls?
The stated reason for the ban was that he supposedly made a death threat against RK. However, anybody ... who chooses to understand the English language, can see that it was merely a rhetorical flourish
Why will nobody else stand up for him?
Are you all afraid of RK's hectoring?
I've proposed an alteration to our (rather sketchy and underdefined) banning procedures at
Wikipedia:Bans and blocks, to mirror a similar, highly successful, h2g2 policy. I beg for feedback on the relevant talk page.
Martin 23:35, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Rob Hooft has written a bot to simplify Disambiguations. Given the name of a disambiguation page, it gets the pages that link to that page, shows the disambiguators, and lets the user choose one of them or 'none', then changing that page.
It has been used with success on nl:, and I would like to ask whether it would be okay to use it here as well? Andre Engels 09:01, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
There having been no objections, I have decided to go ahead, and this morning started with disambiguating Japanese and about half of English. I will discuss with Rob about sending sannse a copy, I think that will be done in a few days. Andre Engels 11:39, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
move to wikipedia talk:NPOV dispute
I did some work on a page that I would hope is more neutral than it was, but it is still on the NPOV list: fluoride. Since I know one can't simply delete the NPOV disclaimer at the top by rule, and I don't know of a page that says 'Check this page because work was done on it', how is said designation retired from a page that (I hope) doesn't need it anymore? Thanks... Skybunny 01:38, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Moved to VfD
now solved, moved to Talk:Ya
Discussion about animated gifs moved to Wikipedia_talk:Image use policy. Quick summary: we like animated gifs for animations, but we're not keen on slide shows
moved to wikipedia talk:NPOV dispute
When I receive a talk page message, I am not notified. LirQ
I believe that signatures should link to the talk page -- since, almost always when I click on a signature -- it is to write that person a message. LirQ
Yes, I was not arguing that signatures should not link to a user page -- I was arguing that they should link to a talk page (as well). Two clicks can be a very long time for some users who experience ungodly amounts of lag. LirQ ( talk)
Okay, this is now operational in a rudimentary way, on my test directory: [4]. Thanks for the icon, Fuzheado. -- Tim Starling 16:20, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Would it also replace the not-nearly-as-cool "( Talk)" next to names on the Recent changes page? -- Paige File:Talk-icon-words-yellow.png 19:20, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
This one is a tad bit smaller. File:Testwords.PNG LirQ
Could someone who has the authority to do this change George Houston Reid to George Houstoun Reid? This is the correct spelling. Dr Adam Carr 11:22, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Moved to TestWikipedia - Talk:Signatures
The page scientific opinion of global warming was created by User:William M. Connolley. I merged it with global warming, but then he seperated it again. Should these be one article or two? LDan 00:24, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Let us discuss it at Talk:Scientific opinion of global warming -- Cyan 01:15, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
If those of us who are non-admin find a candidate for instant deletion, where should we list it? Presumably not VfD, and putting it on 'Vandalism' seems excessive if it is an isolated instance. DJ Clayworth 17:19, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Deleted - fixed
Anyone have suggestions on how I would find out if a User or Talk page has subpages if those subpages are not linked on the main User or Talk page? Is this possible? -- Flockmeal 03:59, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Does "asdfjkl" mean anything? -SV
Does "asdfjkl" mean anything? -SV
I am want to know how to submit a new page.
Having just switched to en2, I've noticed that the bookmark icon (also used in Mozilla et al. for tabs) differs between the servers; which one is intended -
en2's or
www's?
James F. 22:59, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I tried to post on wiki-L; but to to avail -- it is clogged with logo spam. When I go "offsite", perhaps by google search perhaps by viewing a mailing list -- I am then logged out. When I return to the login page I am autologged in...but first I have to return there -- why am I not continuously logged in? LirQ
All of a sudden, the upload file page is giving me this error message: "Sorry, uploads have been disabled on this server." Anyone know anything about this? Tannin 10:35, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I'm confused. I uploaded two images earlier this afternoon, for whom the pages still exist (and the pictures WORKED earlier today), but the links are broken now if I try to inline the image. They are: media:Dealey-plaza-annotated-thumbnail.png and media:Dealey-plaza-annotated.png. Am I missing something? Was something done to them?
(I don't know the proper way to actually put in a link to an image 'information' page rather than inserting the whole dang thing in - I used 'media' to do what I just did; but in any case, I'm sure this gets the idea across).
Skybunny 05:30, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Oh, en2.wikipedia.org is so fast! Every article is loaded just like ordinary web pages. Amazing. This shows how much wikipedia is heavily loaded. Anyway, thank you for setting up this. I only hope this lasts for long time. -- Taku 04:39, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I just found the page Lists of postal and zip codes of the world. It links to many long or extremely incomplete zip code listings. I have nothing against lists, but this is just too much. LDan 22:16, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
How about allowing a user who uses Watchlist to make use of the <diff> function seen in recent Changes? Also, my account has a habit of logging me out. LirQ
How are feature requests akin to bug reports? LirQ
It appears that http://nupedia.org and http://nupedia.com are both gone, which is a great pity because I was trying to port across some of the articles in process, see Wikipedia:Nupedia and Wikipedia. There was no mention that this site was going to disappear, no announcement that it was about to go. Most unceremonius.
In discussion with Jimbo and Mav, see Wikipedia talk:Nupedia and Wikipedia it appears that I could port the old articles in progress under the GFDL, further, there were actually at least one officially posted article that hadn't been transferred at all. Not mention all the attribution links for the source material, history of Nupedia, etc. that are now gone and old contributors to Nupedia might be a little miffed about this. Can we get it back please (at very least the content of the database so I can continue the port)? I certainly hope something like this doesn't happen to wikipedia some day. -- Lexor 11:24, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Yes, I know. Im back to all my old trouble causing tricks. First talk bubbles, now this. When the wiki is using the google engine, why not have the search automatically go there -- rather than first making one confirm that they actually want to search? In fact, why not always use the google engine (at least until the server issues are resolved) -- my problems seem to usually go away as soon as the switch to google is made. (well, not really -- i still get lots of lag) LirQ
I am trying to develop a mini-application to keep track of my Wikipedia edit count. I noticed that the data I got from using the unix "curl" command was giving me a substantially higher count than the source that I copied out of my web browser. I finally realized that the issue at hand is that the Contributions page for some reason shows less contributions when I am logged in vs. when I am logged out! What is the reason for this and can I fix it? Ed Cormany 03:53, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
How do I change my User name without losing continuity of my homepage etc? I am beginning to think that constantly citing myself as "Dr Adam Carr" looks rather formal and pretentious. Could someone who knows how to do this change me to just "Adam Carr"? Thanx. 210.10.32.12 08:36, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC) Oops that should be Dr Adam Carr 08:41, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC) (I am STILL getting logged out when I press "Save Page" and I know I am not alone in this problem).
Would somebody please protect privatization. There is an edit war. LirQ
Personally I feel that if you can't be bothered to explain and discuss your edits, then you shouldn't be bothered to engage in edit war over them. Jaw-jaw is better than war war. Martin 17:09, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Moved to Wikipedia:Village pump/October 2003 archive 1
Please remember to write a brief summary when you do your edits. This makes life a lot easier for all of us when we look at page histories and recent changes. thanks! Kingturtle 19:02, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Moved to www/en2_dichotomy
User known as Mir Harven warned on talk page of Ustashe that "This page will be completely changed in near future, say, two weeks". I ask that some of experienced users put the page on their watchlists, as it is excellent NPOV. You suceeded in making two Serbs and two Croats to agree on this topic :) and I would hate to see it completely changed, especially by someone like MH (and don't intend allowing that anyway). Nikola 07:28, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
How can I set my watchlist to always check over the past day, rather than the past hour? LirQ
Yah, Ive got it bookmarked. But now Im wondering why I have to have it bookmarked. It didnt use to be that way. LirQ
Newbie question, but what's the best way to go about determining whether there is enough consensus to end a neutrality dispute?
I'm thinking in particular of Argument from Ignorance, where the dispute was over the examples used. I think that I've put things into a state which deals with the objections raised in the talk page.
Should I be posting directly to the user talk pages of everyone involved, or is it sufficient just to leave a comment on the talk page for the article and remove the NPOV marker if nobody has objected after a few days? Or is there some kind of defined process for this that I've missed?
-- Onebyone 20:13, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I'm having trouble getting File:Grouse.JPG to display. Vancouverguy 00:57, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
With the standard skin, there is always a Go button that will take me directly to an article. With the Cologne Blue skin, there is only a find entry with an OK button. This is annoying, especially when it says that searches can't be run due to high server load.
Is there a way to get a Go button to appear with Cologne Blue ? Olathe 4 Oct 2003
See wikipedia:bug reports to report bugs and request features. Martin 13:15, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Could some sysop delete the existing redirect pages Réunion and Supercentenarian so that La Réunion and Super-centenarian can be moved there? Thanks. -- Wik 03:26, Oct 4, 2003 (UTC)
www.4reference.net is using wikipedia contents. They also use wikipedia images, but they don't provide any link to the Image: page. IMO a serious issue as they don't provide any license information for picture.
Some pics are GFDL like on : http://www.4reference.net/encyclopedias/wikipedia/Nice_Observatory.html
but other aren't like on : http://www.4reference.net/encyclopedias/wikipedia/Tank_history.html
what's your advice ? Ericd 20:58, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
As you may have noticed, I took it upon myself to get rid of gratuitous references to Horace Donisthorpe over the last couple of days from someone who was making a bunch of wacky and obnoxious edits (see Vandalism in progress). I (foolishly) thought I was "successful," but now User:80.255 (the same person who posted as User:80.225.79.69, User:80.225.73.197, and User:80.225.16.87) and is doing a more subtle (and admittedly less annoying) set of edits, and is still creating a few stubby pages that just seem to refer to each other for the most part...
So here's my question: I'm still pretty new, and am not sure how much I'm being helpful, just being a stubborn geek, if I'm alienating (more or less) a valuable member of the Wikipedia community or if I'm just encouraging someone's trolling. Should I just ignore this person (forever? for a week?) or should I allow my righteous indignation to lead me onward in the struggle against petty vandalism? Thanks in advance for your advice, -- Bcorr 03:24, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
P.S. Here's what I mean: User_talk:80.255 -- Bcorr 03:26, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I wasn't watching 80.225 in particular, but I noticed that 82.34.176.94 had just repaired the Neo-Nazism page: (here's the edit), which was noted as "replaced sneakily removed *The British National Party" -- Bcorr 18:00, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I type my e-mail address in most times I have to login (for what ever reason). I have never typed an invalid address into the field or actively blanked it. Nor have I checked the box that says "do not contact me by email". And yet someone couldn't reach me by email. I also tried to e-mail him, going straight from a login where I added my e-mail address into the appropriate field, and then went to send him an e-mail...
It told me I hadn't specified a valid return address, so it wouldn't even allow me to start editing an e-mail. I went to preferences, typed my e-mail address again, and returned. This time I was allowed to start typing the letter. But after finishing it and clicking "send", I only got the same error message telling me I hadn't specified a valid return address. Is this one of the side-effects of the "server-dichotomy", is there a cookie-problem in my end, or is the E-mail a user function broken? -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick
Yes, and yes. But I didn't think the logging out was anything other than an epiphenomenon of the new server arrangements. Maybe I have to see to my mozilla settings... -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick 23:58, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
"Discussion" on the ban of EntmootofTrolls moved to User talk:EntmootsOfTrolls/ban
I've proposed an alteration to our (rather sketchy and underdefined) banning procedures at Wikipedia:Bans and blocks, to mirror a similar, highly successful, h2g2 policy. I beg for feedback on the relevant talk page. Martin 23:35, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Could someone look at Herschel Grynszpan and tell me why my photo is not appearing? Adam
OK it is working now. Thanx. Adam
I keep getting logged out, depsite checking the remember my password between sessions thing. Anyone having similar trouble? Mintguy 21:56, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
According to recent changes, it has been Requested articles week for quite some time... LirQ
How do I add add syntax/source highlighting into my edits? I have looked around but cannot seem to locate the correct reference.
I am familiar with the process of banning a user. What is the process to un-ban a user? And are un-banned users on in sort of probationary period? Kingturtle 23:24, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I am want to know how to submit a new page.
I note that the math markup does not seem to work in Alternating current and exponential growth. Is this a coincidence? Tiles 06:30, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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Don't Google hits/ links lead to the latest version of a Wikipedia article? I added a lot of info to a page yesterday since it was in the first page of Google hits. But today when I followed the Google link to the page it was in the same state as before my editing- though the address bar in IE is the same for both direct Wikipedia and link from Google. KRS 05:34, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I'm sure this has a very simple answer. I'm deciding whether to split an article. How can I find the size of the article? (it's not a new page). jimfbleak 11:12, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
or count each letter one by one to see the approx byte size. ;-) -fonzy
Plese forgive me if this is not the right place for this, but I'm going round in circles trying to find anywhere more appropriate (though I've visited Wikipedia on plenty of occasions, I'm still a bit of a newbie as far as contribs go).
I just stumbled across the subtle energy page in the Special:Newpages section. Having a background in physics, I am disturbed by its content, but am unsure about what action to take.
The article makes many claims that are difficult to address as the author uses terms like 'Etheric world', 'the worlds preceding [the Etheric world]' and 'proper world', etc., without explaining what these are supposed to mean.
Most concerning, however, are its claims regarding science:
Scientists refer to Subtle Energy as Dark Energy.
According to both ancient and modern sciences, the Subtle Energy of the Etheric world does not interact with physical matter directly.
...energetic processes in our world such as electric and magnetic vibrations and electromagnetic waves definitely initiate vibrations in the energy fields of the Etheric world and of all preceding worlds. [my emphasis]
(Sorry, I've pretty much quoted the whole article there!)
The article uses a reference by Yury Kronn that is questionable in itself. It seems confused over the distinction between the astrophysical concepts of 'dark energy' and 'dark matter'—this is not surprising given that the refernces relevant to such discussion are popular science or press accounts. I would be surprised if the paper has been peer reviewed—indeed, it has 'working draft' on it!
Since I can't follow much of the article, and object to the claims that I can decipher, I'm not sure what action I can take (as tempting as it is to get rid of the whole thing!). I don't wish to deny someone the right to propose a point of view, but this does article does not seem to live up to the NPOV standards of Wikipedia, and its claims pertaining to science are incorrect as I interpret them. Should I instead stick a disputed tag on it?
Perhaps I should have put this on the Talk:Subtle energy page, but I don't know how regularly such a place would be visited. Also, I wonder how similar articles should be approached. Thanks :) Ajr 13:38, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
HTH. Martin 13:39, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Can anyone recommend a decent free program that draws chemical structures. One that's not too hard and runs under Windows or Linux would be great. ThereIsNoSteve 05:29, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
When describing material on VfD, is this term useful or useless? Express your opinion at Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy#Unencyclopedic. -- Cyan 07:53, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Please can a Wikipedian who is good at picture code-writing go to EasyJet and put the two pics side by side, I don't know how to. If I just put the two sets of code one below the other I get the pics one below the other which looks clumsy. Thanks.
Adrian Pingstone 19:23, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
How can I make an a with a dash above it, or an n with a dot above it? Lirath Q. Pynnor
I believe they are used in the anglicization of Sanskrit. Lirath Q. Pynnor
Wouldn't it be a good idea to have an
Wikipedia:Edit war article, of course redirected from
Edit war and
Edit wars, which could be used when warning newbies for engaging in such activities?
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Ruhrjung 16:04, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
The English Wikipedia's new logo has got a problem: it's 33.75kb, which means it takes a lonngg time to load on slower connections. Crusadeonilliteracy 01:44, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Does "asdfjkl" mean anything? -SV
To VfD
deleted - done
Could some sysop delete the existing redirect pages Réunion and Supercentenarian so that La Réunion and Super-centenarian can be moved there? Thanks. -- Wik 03:26, Oct 4, 2003 (UTC)
The pages linked to from Wikipedia:Mailing lists for signing up for mailing lists return a 404. Eg http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l. Can someone who knows what's wrong correct this? Thanks, snoyes 16:25, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I'm having trouble getting Grouse.JPG, as well as a number of other pictures to display. Vancouverguy 00:57, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
It's probably the situation discribed earlier in the page. Vancouverguy 01:15, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
To Talk:Lists of postal and zip codes of the world/Delete
OK well i don't really understand the explanations of why the image upload isn't working and why Wikipedia goes offline in the afternoon (my time) every day, but then I rarely understand explanations of this kind of thing - I guess that's why I'm a historian :) Does anyone know when the photo upload will be fixed? Adam 16:35, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
How do I have my nickname and the time/date appear after my messages, like other posers have?
How do I have my nickname and the time/date appear after my messages, like other posers have?
What was that long server crash all about G-Man 22:39, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I found this idea is great when the table is short, but quite annoying when there is a long alphabet list in some pages, which makes the whole page look .... My suggestion is, could we have more styles of that table, in some pages, like a list according to alphabet, we can use a style called 'ALPHABET_TABLE' instead of that style (automatically creat a table like that in List of Hong Kong-related topics). And a 'HORIZONTAL_TABLE' (good for List of colleges and universities by country). -- Gboy 05:51, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Hey now, I know that it takes money to run things, but annoying people isn't going to cut it. If there are no funds, let's just close up shop. I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be free. Having one link on the main page is enough. Those who have enough money and want to do so, will do so. So, save the last chunk of change for the bandwidth costs of downloading the data dumps, and don't resort to these sort of things. Every time I see this sort of badgering on other sites, it is a sign of things going downhill. Pretty soon, you have small adds, popups, big adds, subscriptions, etc. I don't like to feel like a useless bum, but I don't have any money. All I have is the time to donate, and I am not asking any donations for that, so why are you guys asking money from me on every page? It is very annoying, and it seems like a last ditch effort before the ship sinks.-- Dori 03:27, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Word, I agree. Kind of scared myself.
Whether you like it or not, Wikipedia/ Wikimedia will be funded by donations in the coming years -- that's the whole point of the non-profit foundation. The fundraising slogan will only remain below the subtitle until we have the money to buy our new server. I have asked Jimbo Wales to provide regular updates on our donation progress. If I'm not mistaken, Tim has recently made updates to the software which would allow the subtitle to be collaboratively edited. —Eloquence 10:48, Oct 6, 2003 (UTC)
Well, I can see that I am the only one that feels this way so I will just shut up and hope that Wikipedia doesn't go down the drain. I never said I had a problem with donations, but only that it shouldn't be done so that it bothers users, the primary focus should be on the information. Above, I also mentioned that I could deal with just the one line, but that in my opinion it would not be enough, and I could see further intrusions coming in the same spirit of that one line. Anyway, I didn't mean for this to become a flamefest, and I apologize if I offended anyone. By the way Tim, I am a guy :) -- Dori 12:39, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
The most recent edit to the Suez Crisis as I write looks very dubious. Diff here. Could a knowledgable person set my mind at rest and revert this if necessary? Pete 09:23, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)
If you're here, you've probably already noticed that www.wikipedia.org is down while en2.wikipedia.org is up. Larousse is down, don't know why. Jason's trying to reboot it now. -- Brion 04:52, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
deleted - done
Has something happened to the wiki-list? I have received no email on it since 1 October. If anyone knows what is happening could they please tell me, and put me back on the list? Please. (I need my wiki-list fix badly!!!) :-) FearÉIREANN 01:48, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Thanks Menchi. I did a clearout of some old messages but I double checked back in the trash to see if I had inadvertently deleted an important page, and nothing came up. I was away for some days and got spammed with piles of junk. That may have been the problem. I have applied under a new email account that is almost empty (and so far spamless!) lol .
FearÉIREANN 02:17, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
To Talk:Lists of postal and zip codes of the world/Delete
The new message attached with the Service Temporarily Unavailable message:
Is much better than the previous message used. I had thought that the Unavailability was because of something wrong with wikipedia; turns out, it was because of something *I* was doing. When I am in the mood to do proofreading, I use the "Random Page" feature. Sometimes, while scanning words, I will click on "Random Page" 3 or 4 times in the span of 10 or 15 seconds. Now I know that I have to slow my "Random Page" rate down. My question is...What is the fastest rate I can use the "Random Page" feature without losing service temporarily? Or is this information held secret because a spider-author might read this? In any case, props to whomever wrote the new message. It is much more informative to users. Kingturtle 15:32, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Could someone look at Parliament House, Canberra and tell me what I am doing wrong with my photos? Thanx Adam 13:33, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Anyone know what's up with Google? It seems to have been down for ages (for me anyway). Not having it available is certainly showing how much I rely upon it. Mintguy 11:06, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
i have no probelms either (with ".com" or ".co.uk"). -fonzy
Hm.. seems to be a DNS problem. My PC is trying to find gooogle on 207.44.220.31, which times out before I ping it and an IP lookup show it to be ns1.sitething.net. Looking up www.google.com on http://www.dns-tools.com/ gives me 216.239.51.99
I just wanted to writhe the same - see [7] for a description of this troyan. andy 19:37, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I remember having seen guidelines and/or discussions relative to:
With the multiplication of guideline and talk pages, I cannot find these references. Could anyone help me spotting them? If no such discussion/guideline really exist, where should they be started? Thanks. olivier 13:36, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
For titles: ==Titles <i>can be italicized</i>== or in text:'''''Italicized'''''. Alex756 15:27, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Any reason why TeX has been stuffing up recently? Some probably valid TeX isn't rendering properly; only the alt text is showing up (the TeX code)...
This idea came to my mind: We should have special consultants for specific topics. For example, if an administrator is a lawyer or a law connseur, every article that has to do with law should be sent to that person for revision..what do you guys think? -- Antonio Who's that girl? Quien es esa nina, senorita presumida? Martin
Interesting idea, not least because a special consultant would have a good idea of what other articles and lists need a link to the new article. It's also trivial to implement, the simplest I can think being a discussion page per topic on which the self-declared consultants list new articles as they appear along with comments ranging from "looks fine to me" through "we should lobby to have this user banned" ;-). The danger is if consultants start to feel possessive about their topics, or if they feel they are the definitive Wikipedia authority on the subject. It's not much more of a danger than there is already, since anyone who chooses can already decide to police a particular topic. Pick one topic and do it, see if it flies. -- Onebyone 13:50, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I just discovered another online encyclopedia, http://www.internet-encyclopedia.org/ that looks a lot like Wikipedia. They must have even copied the source code. But it also looks inferior. My concern is that if everyone starts their own encyclopedia, will that somehow cast a dark shadow on these sites that could spill over to Wikipedia? I know that eBay had a lot of copycats but survived and is still the number one auction site. But they are a for-profit company and have the resources to excel. How can Wikipedia protect itself from these clones? - Fernkes 01:30, Oct 2, 2003 (UTC)
Hi. All text in Francis Drake was deleted today by User:212.81.200.14 (I reverted that change). It might have been an accident; can there be (or is there already?) some warning when you are about to do this? Also, maybe some special mark for such edits could be placed in the "Recent changes" list, so that people can notice and check easily. Colin Marquardt 13:16, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
While working through the Wikipedia:Orphaned Articles I found the article St. Patrick's Day Parade with a wrong title which made it an orphan. After moving it to the right place it still was an orphan, even though History of New York City links there. Some minutes later that article showed up on the What links here list - but the link in History of New York stays red. But when I press it I get to the right article, in edit mode of course. I had a similar case yesterday with the Rambot article O'Hara Township, Pennsylvania, where the link in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania is red as well - the only similarity I can find is that both have a ' in the title. And yes, I cleared my cache several times already. Any idea what this bug can be. Will it fix itself with a database integrity run? andy 12:14, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Why do I get so many 'server overloads' when I try searching for any article? It would seem to me that the problem may be lack of bandwidth. If that is the problem then why is it not being dealt with?
An IP user User:64.230.131.102 has put a four-way compass navigation at the bottom of various Canadian city articles, such as Montreal, Quebec and Toronto, Ontario. While I actually find it kind of interesting to find out about other geographically close cities, is there a precedent for doing it this way? Pros/cons? Fuzheado 05:59, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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Should the encyclopedia be consistent in noun-pronoun relationships, and if so, what should be the accepted practice? For example: In "A musician plays his instrument" or "A musician plays her instrument" the noun and pronoun agree, but people might be offended by the perceived exclusion of one sex (assuming of course that we don't know who the musician is.) "A musician plays their instrument" is a construct often seen today, but one which grates on some people. "Musicians play their instruments" meets both objections, but isn't always a possible formation.
Any ideas or guidance on this? -- User:Dolbier October 1, 2003.
Singular they is fine, but everytime so-called gender-neutral pronouns are mentioned on wiki, most people (and it includes me) feel like throwing up. They have all the linguistic beauty and attractiveness of a large fart and make many on wiki want to throw up. Please, please don't use those appalling linguistic bastardisations. FearÉIREANN 01:42, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
BTW - so-called gender-neutral pronouns are also largely un-used by most english speakers worldwide and so even from the point of view of comprehendability should never be used on wiki.
move to talk:Homophobic hate speech
So where do I go to get an article like Homophobic hate speech rewritten? It doesn't belong on Votes for Deletion, because the article itself doesn't need to be deleted. It doesn't need to go on the page listing POV articles, because it isn't the POV that I'm objecting to. It's the use of a single term which takes up 1/3 of the entire article, in graphic detail. There are tons of other offensive terms that could be listed here, let's not be minimalists, let's go with all of them, okay? And then we can have Offensive terms for Jews and Offensive terms for Italians and Offensive terms for African Americans, etc. I seem to recall List of offensive terms for Germans having gotten deleted at some point. So why does this one term, on this page, keep getting re-added, when other offensive terms for gays are not included, and why are we not coming up with exhaustive pages of offensive terms for every other group in the world? RickK 03:10, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)
What is this Anon 64.174 doing: "Update cache"? Later on, Anon 165.196 started doing the same thing too [11]. -- Menchi 04:45, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Is there not a way for a developer to do this automatically? The problem I have with it is it may be wasting people's time as he is doing it with often-bookmarked pages, meaning people need to check the whole history of each page to see if any actual changes have been made. Also, it is being done mostly with pages that anons are not likely to see - ie those in the Wikipedia namespace. As most people come to main article pages via Google, I don't think it is worthwhile. I don't know who the anon is, but it is an IP that mav has used in the past. Is it mav? Why is it being done anonymously? Angela 06:05, Oct 10, 2003 (UTC)
If a particular image is found displayed on multiple websites does that qualify it as public domain as opposed to copyrighted? SD6-Agent 07:02, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
So I can't just grab an image from another website which has no copyright notice? SD6-Agent 15:50, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Copyright laws vary by country. Check what country that website belongs to. Some countries, at least Japan, require no copyright notice for works to be copyrighted; no notice means that is copyrighted. Besides, not every country adapts the concept of public domain. In Japan, for instance, there is no public domain. -- Taku
Aside from the mind-numbing server slowdowns of the last few weeks, it now appears that typing www.wikipedia.org doesn't go to wikipedia, but to some generic and content-free wikimedia page. Good luck trying to navigate your way back to wikipedia... and even better luck trying to follow a pre-existing link (e.g. from google). Newcomers will probably just give up. Mbstone 01:29, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Let www.wikipedia.org go to en.wikipedia.org...I don't like having to click 10 links to get back.
What was that long server crash all about G-Man 22:39, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
File upload is still down for english wikipedia (both www/en2). -- Dori 23:01, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I asked earlier why image uploading was not working but I didn't seem to get a streightforward answer. Could anyone englighten me? Also, how do I have my nickname and the time/date appear after my messages, like other posers have?
Thanks.. hmm it does post my nickname but not the date/time stamp
I don't know whether this really matters, but I mistakenly marked an edit minor. I was multitasking while working on Earendil, and forgot that I'd made some substantive changes. If it's possible, and if a developer thinks it necessary, please remove the minor flag and delete the edit summary. - Smack 06:45, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
What is the policy of linking to eg newspaper articles which are not easily available. 'Easily available' meaning: A) needing to register with the website before being able to view the content; B) needing to pay to view the content. There is nothing stated in Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. An example of A would be articles at the New York Times generally. An example of A & B would be articles in the NYT archives. For example National Palace Museum links to an article in the NYT archives. Should this link be deleted? Should all NYT links be deleted (and to other websites requiring registration)? Thanks, snoyes 02:28, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
On a related topic, is there someway to scan for broken external links? I've fixed a few myself, but it would be nice if there's a list of broken external links we can fix. Samw 02:40, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Perhaps this is not the correct place to bring this up, but I noticed some strange things on my personal preferences page. Firstly, the "Your e-mail" has a star (*) after it, but there is no 'key' to this. There is another field that has a star after it ("Offset", under time settings), but this has a key adding more information. Either the star for the email option should be removed, or a different symbol used and an explanatory key inserted. Secondly, the email address is not displayed in the relevant box. Is this meant to be so, or a bug? Cheers, snoyes 16:15, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
When I click an 'Upload image' link it tells me the feature is disabled. Will it be enabled any time soon?
Why is the photo upload not working?
Why does Wikipedia go offline every afternoon?
Adam 12:19, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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With the standard skin, there is always a Go button that will take me directly to an article. With the Cologne Blue skin, there is only a find entry with an OK button. This is annoying, especially when it says that searches can't be run due to high server load.
Is there a way to get a Go button to appear with Cologne Blue ? Olathe 4 Oct 2003
See wikipedia:bug reports to report bugs and request features. Martin 13:15, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I just finished a massive edit on portable stove. In the process, I carved up some pre-existing content about solid-fuel stoves. That content had been added by a single user. My intent was to message that user and get him/her to correct my work, but that user ( Kat) has since left the wiki. So consider this a cry for help. The article's coverage of solid-fuel stoves is in very bad shape. It had been interspersed throughout the article until my restructuring effort, and it looked fine in that capacity, but now that I brought it together, it's rather subpar. - Smack 01:57, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Fairfield
SD6-Agent 02:24, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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Why do I keep finding myself involuntarily logged off when I am about to post my article? Is there a time limit? Or is there some bug that logs me off when I press "save page"? Dr Adam Carr 12:12, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Okay, I'm still confused: What exactly is the relationship between, and the policy regarding linking between the Wikipedia and the Wiktionary. I saw several red links edited into Wiktionary links, at which point...I became confused. My basic question is which is preferable, if there is a definition on Wiktionary, but no article on Wikipedia, should we leave a red link or link to Wiktionary (and perhaps add to the requested list)? Thanks in advance for any help/clarification/sympathetic nods, Paige 21:17, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Hmm... we seem to have blocked 25 AOL proxies. I've just received a query from an AOL user, I wouldn't be surprised if Angela has received a few. I think a change to the "you are blocked" message is in order. See Wikipedia:You have been blocked for my proposal (soon to be implemented). -- Tim Starling 02:41, Sep 20, 2003 (UTC)
I would like to order the Girls Gone Wild live from spring break (2003). How do I go by getting it through your company wikpedia. How much would it cost and how and where do I send payment. Please inform me about this asap.
Could anyone familiar with either or both of these two tunes: God Save the Queen and the Prussian hymn Heil Dir Im Siegerkranz take a moment to visit Hawai'i pono'i, go to the reference link at the bottom, listen to the Hawai'i anthem and see if my statement "The melody is reminiscent of God Save the Queen, but based upon the Prussian hymn,Heil Dir Im Siegerkranz" is correct or not?
Moved to Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy/Deletions, where to build pages and evolution of conventions
Moved to Wikipedia talk:IP block'
moved to Wikipedia talk:How to log in
Moved to: Wikipedia talk:Sites that use Wikipedia for content.
I would like a second opinion on what counts as advertising/spam etc. I removed an external link ( CARDSHARK Online) from a number of articles ( Crimp, Three card monte, Card game, Confidence trick, Holdout, Gambling, Cardsharps etc) and have now had an e-mail from the poster of them who said the following: (permission to reprint this extract was given): "I included a link to my web site along with both of my contributions simply because it is a related link for anyone who wishes to find out more on the subject described on the page... I feel that my contributions should include links to my site whenever relevant. I feel so because it is good to provide visitors with reputable follow up links and also because it is a way to reward me for my efforts."
Any thoughts? Angela 03:37, Sep 20, 2003 (UTC)
My approach is generally to remove such links (not always immediately, but eventually, and boldly), and trust that if someone found them useful, I would be reverted (as I was on
List of gay movies. This seems to work quite well.
Martin 14:22, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
With the Israbot adding to the output of Rambot and others a lot of 'statty' settlement articles are being created.
IMO these articles are non-encyclopedic and are cluttering the main namespace (I'd also say they are valueless additions, but there you go ;). I think it is time for a gazatteer.wikipedia.org, or similar, to hold these articles. TwoOneTwo 21:16, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
If you've got some comments on Rambot (to stay or to delete), drop a note @ User talk:Rambot/Delete. -- Menchi 00:36, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
They are distorting the value of Wikipedia content, especially article counts and size counts into giving an unwarranted impression of the depth of Wikipedia. I'm not saying delete I'm saying move, like the sep11 material they are specialised and not generally usable. With a separate namespace for the raw articles, as and when they are improved they can be moved back. TwoOneTwo 14:29, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
An encyclopedia is not an almanac! I think we should take a stand on this. An encyclopedia article is human-written and gives context, weighs relevance, etc. Bot-entries are not articles, they're data. If I want raw data on every county in the US for example, I go to an almanac; if I want context, filtered by a knowledgable human, I go to an encyclopedia. In an encyclopedia, I can rely on the fact that someone has taken the time to include the important facts and leave out the cruft. That's why I went there, and not to the almanac. I'd like to see Wikipedia is not an almanac added to the basic tenets of Wikipedia. Axlrosen 22:37, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
What is Wikipedia style for pronouns used for countries? For instance on the French Fifth Republic page, the feminine pronouns are used (presumably because la France is feminine in French) but in United States, the neuter pronouns are used. I don't have a stylebook on me now, but I believe AP style says neuter. If we don't already have a style it seems that that's what it should be. Basil Fawlty 16:00, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
[http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Elizabeth-II-of-the-United-Kingdom http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Elizabeth-II-of-the-United-Kingdom] Nationmaster is one of those websites which, for some reason, is mirroring the wikipedia. They do credit their source. It is odd that they were the "Yahoo! Pick of the Day" but we arent. Pizza Puzzle
IANAL, but Pete - I suggest that if you believe that a third party (or indeed Wikipedia) is using your content in a way contrary to the terms of your license under the GFDL, then you write to them stating the problem. You may also wish to take legal advice on the matter. Martin 09:00, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I remember a page, wich i belive was on the metawikipedia, which was a debate about whether a new system should be adapted relating to the deletion of certain content including copyright infringment. The debate specifically was about how just about anybody could become a sysop, and thus the content that was deleted was still widely available, and that perhaps there should be a system to delete a page so that not even a sysop can see what it used to contain. Does anybody remember this article? if so and it still exists could you post a link to it? Thanks. Tacvek 04:30, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Just as an experiment, I searched in Google for topics I was interested in/ contributed to/ created/ whatever in Wikipedia. In many a case, Wikipedia articles seem to feature within the first two pages! Has something changed so that the whole site has a better weightage, or is it something to do with individual articles? I had tried a month ago and did not get any hits.In any case, I think the responsibility of giving factual information has increased tremendously. KRS 03:03, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
So when is it coming back? Wikipedia is virtually unusable without some kind of search capability. Even a link to Google would be nice, like the last time. RickK 19:47, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
For those who already cast their votes on the meta, BEWARE:
Your vote would be invalid if you do not have an separate account on meta or if you homepage on meta does not redirect to your homepage on a wikipedia project of which you have more than 10 contributions.
My own vote was classified as invalid! I make my homepage a redirect now and hope it is fixed. But there are still wikipedians do not know that.
- wshun 19:12, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Move to User talk:Cardshark
I would like a second opinion on what counts as advertising/spam etc. I removed an external link ( CARDSHARK Online) from a number of articles ( Crimp, Three card monte, Card game, Confidence trick, Holdout, Gambling, Cardsharps etc) and have now had an e-mail from the poster of them who said the following: (permission to reprint this extract was given): "I included a link to my web site along with both of my contributions simply because it is a related link for anyone who wishes to find out more on the subject described on the page... I feel that my contributions should include links to my site whenever relevant. I feel so because it is good to provide visitors with reputable follow up links and also because it is a way to reward me for my efforts."
Any thoughts? Angela 03:37, Sep 20, 2003 (UTC)
My approach is generally to remove such links (not always immediately, but eventually, and boldly), and trust that if someone found them useful, I would be reverted (as I was on
List of gay movies. This seems to work quite well.
Martin 14:22, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Wikipedia is currently unuseable because you can't get to any articles without a wait of upwards of five minutes. Is the Israel bot responsible, or just what is the problem? RickK 01:42, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Why do some pages ( my homepage for example) appear with the first line of the first paragraph slightly indented? It is not very attractive. What would would be attractive (IMHO) would be a convention to have a three-line drop-capital ( like this) at the start of each article. Perhaps the style committee could look into it. Dr Adam Carr 01:00, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
This is a problem with the [edit] link. If you put two blank lines at the beginning of the article or page, it goes away. RickK 01:24, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Are we supposed to give phonetics in SAMPA or IPA? IPA should work with all browsers correctly handling Unicode. The WikiPedia renderer could do on-the-fly translation to ASCII for the remaining browsers. David.Monniaux 23:40, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I believe that signatures should link to the talk page -- since, almost always when I click on a signature -- it is to write that person a message. LirQ
When I receive a talk page message, I am not notified. LirQ
26 september 2003.
Subject: Questions about ozone and the ozonelayer.
My first visit to the villagepump. I am Frans, an old dutchman with a very inquisitive mind. Shortly I got access to internet and that was reason for me to visit several encyclopedia, looking for information about above mebtioned subjects. I am very astonished about the controversial statements i met and are now looking for someone who can and will explain things to me.
Now for the first problems. According to the Columbia, the Brittanica, the Encarta and also Wikipedia; Ozone is formed by the action of ultraviolet light (UV) on oxygen. Ultraviolet light is absorbed when it strikes an ozone molecule (see Columbia); the molecule is split into atomoc and diatomoc oxigen, Later in the presence of a catalyst, the atomic and diatomic oxygen reunite to form oxygen.
So, as long as there is oxygen ozone is formed. And, UV is absorbed by splitting ozone molecules. The ozone is recycled. The impossible conclusion is, that the amount of oxygen increases. So why bother about depletion af the ozonelaer bij certain chemical compounds?
I have more questions including the some marked 'energie'but enough for now.
Frans
I did some work on a page that I would hope is more neutral than it was, but it is still on the NPOV list: fluoride. Since I know one can't simply delete the NPOV disclaimer at the top by rule, and I don't know of a page that says 'Check this page because work was done on it', how is said designation retired from a page that (I hope) doesn't need it anymore? Thanks... Skybunny 01:38, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Phew! I can't believe I've ended up in this maze of tech-y stuff. All I want to know is if the persons who killed Joy Adamson (authoress of " Born Free") were ever caught? I have just finished reading her last book " Queen of Shaba" wherein she was doing research on a leopard named Penny - which was never fully completed because of her death. (OhGodhowinthehelldoImailthisnow)???
According to http://www.vayulila.com/TheCave/Voice-Adamsons.html, "a 23 year old former employee Paul Ekai was convicted of the murder, apparently committed after a dispute over money." RickK 01:27, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
(see also #Ad?)
I would like a second opinion on what counts as 'advertising.' I added external links in relevant places ('Babel', 'Tower of Babel', 'Languages' etc.) to my non-commercial website (towerofbabel.com) which is actually another multilingual project similar to Wikipedia named Babel (and if you are familiar with the myth of the tower of Babel you would understand its relevance, because the entire je nais se quoi is based on the paradigm of the myth.) I fail to see how these links would be construed as 'irrelevant' or as 'advertising.' I assume the person who deleted my external links didn't even bother to look at the site.
(see also #Relevance)
All this Anon did is linking to many articles to his website, like this:
And it's always bolded and placed 1st, before all other obviously more irrelvant-to-subject links.
And that's all he did. No actual contribution. His website seems to be of little relevance to most of our article, if not all. The Chinese version seems to be just of one page, and machine-translated ( pietà is translated as piñata).
What do you think? Is that link valuable addition to Wikipedia? If not, they should be reverted. -- Menchi 04:10, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
He's now doing the same under the name
Malcs64.
Angela
All this Anon did is linking to many articles to his website, like this:
And it's always bolded and placed 1st, before all other obviously more irrelvant-to-subject links.
And that's all he did. No actual contribution. His website seems to be of little relevance to most of our article, if not all. The Chinese version seems to be just of one page, and machine-translated ( pietà is translated as piñata).
What do you think? Is that link valuable addition to Wikipedia? If not, they should be reverted. -- Menchi 04:10, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)
He's now doing the same under the name Malcs64. Angela
I would like a second opinion on what counts as 'advertising.' I added external links in relevant places ('Babel', 'Tower of Babel', 'Languages' etc.) to my non-commercial website (towerofbabel.com) which is actually another multilingual project similar to Wikipedia named Babel (and if you are familiar with the myth of the tower of Babel you would understand its relevance, because the entire je nais se quoi is based on the paradigm of the myth.) I fail to see how these links would be construed as 'irrelevant' or as 'advertising.' I assume the person who deleted my external links didn't even bother to look at the site.
1)Anyone have any idea when/if the Upload function is going to return? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 20:06, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
2)Errors occur when moving pages (talk pages left behind and error messages occur) - submitted to Sourceforge.
Tried to go to Cyan's talk page but all I get is a blank white screen. Anyone else see this or is it unique to me? Thanks Ark30inf 01:26, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I'm having the same problem. Vancouverguy 01:51, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
It still doesn't work on Internet Explorer. Vancouverguy 02:04, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Boy, am I ever glad the Village pump is on my watchlist; otherwise I would never have found out about Camembert's handy link. I was starting to go into withdrawal. -- Cyan 02:37, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Keep quiet about this, or BuddhaInside will want to have a white talk page, too. —Eloquence
I have an animation program which takes images and creates an animated .gif. In some articles, there has been a great deal of argument about which images to include. Is there any objection to have an animated image which displays a different picture every X seconds? LirQ
Such an animation would allow their to be more than one picture shown in the space where only one picture currently is. On an ever growing list of articles, pictures are being deleted because there "isnt room for them" -- although, I personally believe there is plenty of room. (im thinking primarily of photos of persons) LirQ
Well, if we don't use an animated gif, and people complain that there are "too many pictures"; then, we wind up not showing the images at all -- and I think thats far more tacky. LirQ
On the Anniversaries part of the main page, for today ( September 22), it lists Ferdinand Magellan and Carl XVI Gustav of Sweden. Glancing at their pages, I see -nothing- to connect either of them to this date. What's that about? -- Jake 10:27, 2003 Sep 22 (UTC)
Please remember to write a brief summary when you do your edits. This makes life a lot easier for all of us when we look at page histories and recent changes. thanks! Kingturtle 19:02, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I accidentally moved Ya to whatever russian charecter it was to conform to A, B, C, etc., and messed up the "move page" button.
moved from VfD by 140.190.66.4
moved from VfD by User:TakuyaMurata
I believe the page at Prime Minster of the United Kingdom is just wrong. My book disagrees, as does http://www.btinternet.com/~spansoft/data/tl_brpm.txt -- both of my sources agree with one another. In particular, take a look at the dates regarding Pitt the Elder and Lord Bute. (1757) LirQ
Excuse me! How long has everyone other than me known that ordinary users can move protected pages? User:BuddhaInside at least seems to be well-acquainted with the phenomenon.
I quickly hacked both webservers so that you can't move a protected page. Sysops can't move them either, that's why it qualifies as a "quick hack". A page must be unprotected before it can be moved. Also, the error message just says "invalid article" or something. -- Tim Starling 04:18, Sep 25, 2003 (UTC)
I believe the page at Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is just wrong. My book disagrees, as does http://www.btinternet.com/~spansoft/data/tl_brpm.txt -- both of my sources agree with one another. In particular, take a look at the dates regarding Pitt the Elder and Lord Bute. (1757) LirQ
This is about as good a place as any to ask I guess; I was about to start looking up info to write a stub on David G. Monette (on the wanted articles list for over a year). Turns out he's head of a company that manufactures mouthpieces for musical instruments. He gets 300 Google hits with the initial. (There are 4000 without, but most seem to be about an unrelated artist). Is this really encyclopedia-worthy? It would be aggravating to do the looking-up for an article that's just going to be deleted anyway. - Hephaestos 19:13, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
200 is way too low! BL, you get more than that and as Martin recently pointed out, he gets more than 500. 3.8 million Google hits Angela 20:51, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
In the Catalan Wikipedia we have more than 60 wrong pages that we want to delete but nobody can do it. Where I have to request the permition? Llull 18:26, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
We have an article on O.W.L.s but not on O levels. This is depressing. -- Tarquin 09:47, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I took this statement from a photo description page at Wikipedia: Released under the GFDL; all other rights reserved. What other rights might exist to be reserved? - Marshman 02:52, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I uploaded a photo of a person awhile back. I named the file after the person's name, but spelled it incorrectly. I used the mispelled image name in the article about the person, so everything there looks okay. But I don't feel comfortable leaving the image spelled incorrectly. Is there a way to rename an image? What I would prefer to do is upload the image file again under the correct spelling and fix the link in the article. Then, delete the old image file. But to delete the image file, I believe I need to put it up for a vote for deletion. Does all of this sound oaky to you folks? Of course, I can't do any of this until uploads are reactivated. -- Fernkes 00:43, Sep 25, 2003 (UTC)
Can someone please revert radical behaviorism ? It has had (unintentional ?) gibberish added. Thanks - Vaughan 20:48, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
"The mean article size was about 1997 bytes, or roughly 332 words: the median article size was smaller, at roughly 980 bytes, or roughly 163 words." From: Wikipedia:Size_comparisons.
Meaning, that this is the average size article, and that something like this article is about the halfway mark -- roughly half of all articles are smaller. It's a stub though-- which is my point. Those in the m:deletionist camp (sorry I been out for a few) -- who tend to want to get rid of articles on the basis of their stubbiness alone might try looking at this logically. Meaning like it or not, much of that 6,852,598 in Wikipedia, is made of stubs. - 戴眩sv 19:16, Sep 23, 2003 (UTC)
Exactly my point. Some would call write-through (as it was when I used it as an example) too small to be called an "article". - 戴眩sv 19:51, Sep 23, 2003 (UTC)
They are the wikifaithless deletionists, and they are many- I stand corrected. GTR, BBL 戴眩sv 19:55, Sep 23, 2003 (UTC)
I wouldn't call those stubs. It's "articles" like Josh Kalis that deletionists have a problem with. A deletionist.
Well, considering that that anon user wasnt a wack-- he did actually edit a few other unrelated articles, we can assume that its not totally nonsense. What the heck I did a google search and came up with some info-- I added a link, made it a redirect to a more general category-- Whaddyaknow? Theres no skateboarder category. So I added one. I added Tony Hawk-- who I think is related to the subject, though I cant be sure, and the micro-granularity problem of a Josh Kalis article was solved in just as much time as it would have taken to add it to VFD -- A typical salvationist
Where's the Find a random short article button so deletionists and others can find and expand random stubs when bored?:) Has to beat looking in recent changes, which by definition are something someone just worked on and is therefore more likely than average to continue working on and expand. JamesDay 22:18, 23 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I just don't understand why my contribution on Sir T.B.'s library has been voted for deletion. Surely it is of interest to read a SHORT sample of the library contents of one of early modern Europe's encyclopaedists ? Perhaps no-one recognises the titles ?? But i discern exactly where this this grandiose project is coming from by the fact that of the 100000's of articles written as of yet not one upon the Working Class!! (see Proletariat perhaps) . What an indictment of the interests and sociology of Wiki Contributers!! I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with the elitism of wikipedia and shall broadcast these facts far and wide across the web should this page be removed,.The off-hand way by which decisions are made is a bit disturbing. Contact the poster, don't vote behind their back ! The Norwikian
I remember writing an article a while back on this dude-- I was looking for it--it's not there anymore, nor is it in "deleted pages"-- can a developer please take a look, whenever time permits? Im curious as to who deleted it and why.-- 戴眩sv 00:35, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Am I the only person here who is bothered by the recent banning of EntmootsOfTrolls? The stated reason for the ban was that he supposedly made a death threat against RK. However, anybody who reads what he wrote, and examines the context in which he wrote it, and who chooses to understand the English language, can see that it was merely a rhetorical flourish, and by no stretch of the imagination any kind of a threat. I appreciate that EoT was not the easiest contributor to get along with, but the same is true of many others here, not least RK. EoT has clearly been treated unjustly. I can't be the only person who has noticed this. Why will nobody else stand up for him? Are you all afraid of RK's hectoring? Please go to User talk:EntmootsOfTrolls/ban and make a fuss. GrahamN 19:41, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
As far as I am concerned EOT's ban was perfectly justified and long overdue.
FearÉIREANN 20:24, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Am I the only person here who is bothered by the recent banning of EntmootsOfTrolls?
The stated reason for the ban was that he supposedly made a death threat against RK. However, anybody ... who chooses to understand the English language, can see that it was merely a rhetorical flourish
Why will nobody else stand up for him?
Are you all afraid of RK's hectoring?
I've proposed an alteration to our (rather sketchy and underdefined) banning procedures at
Wikipedia:Bans and blocks, to mirror a similar, highly successful, h2g2 policy. I beg for feedback on the relevant talk page.
Martin 23:35, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Rob Hooft has written a bot to simplify Disambiguations. Given the name of a disambiguation page, it gets the pages that link to that page, shows the disambiguators, and lets the user choose one of them or 'none', then changing that page.
It has been used with success on nl:, and I would like to ask whether it would be okay to use it here as well? Andre Engels 09:01, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
There having been no objections, I have decided to go ahead, and this morning started with disambiguating Japanese and about half of English. I will discuss with Rob about sending sannse a copy, I think that will be done in a few days. Andre Engels 11:39, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
move to wikipedia talk:NPOV dispute
I did some work on a page that I would hope is more neutral than it was, but it is still on the NPOV list: fluoride. Since I know one can't simply delete the NPOV disclaimer at the top by rule, and I don't know of a page that says 'Check this page because work was done on it', how is said designation retired from a page that (I hope) doesn't need it anymore? Thanks... Skybunny 01:38, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Moved to VfD
now solved, moved to Talk:Ya
Discussion about animated gifs moved to Wikipedia_talk:Image use policy. Quick summary: we like animated gifs for animations, but we're not keen on slide shows
moved to wikipedia talk:NPOV dispute
When I receive a talk page message, I am not notified. LirQ
I believe that signatures should link to the talk page -- since, almost always when I click on a signature -- it is to write that person a message. LirQ
Yes, I was not arguing that signatures should not link to a user page -- I was arguing that they should link to a talk page (as well). Two clicks can be a very long time for some users who experience ungodly amounts of lag. LirQ ( talk)
Okay, this is now operational in a rudimentary way, on my test directory: [4]. Thanks for the icon, Fuzheado. -- Tim Starling 16:20, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Would it also replace the not-nearly-as-cool "( Talk)" next to names on the Recent changes page? -- Paige File:Talk-icon-words-yellow.png 19:20, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
This one is a tad bit smaller. File:Testwords.PNG LirQ
Could someone who has the authority to do this change George Houston Reid to George Houstoun Reid? This is the correct spelling. Dr Adam Carr 11:22, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Moved to TestWikipedia - Talk:Signatures
The page scientific opinion of global warming was created by User:William M. Connolley. I merged it with global warming, but then he seperated it again. Should these be one article or two? LDan 00:24, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Let us discuss it at Talk:Scientific opinion of global warming -- Cyan 01:15, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
If those of us who are non-admin find a candidate for instant deletion, where should we list it? Presumably not VfD, and putting it on 'Vandalism' seems excessive if it is an isolated instance. DJ Clayworth 17:19, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Deleted - fixed
Anyone have suggestions on how I would find out if a User or Talk page has subpages if those subpages are not linked on the main User or Talk page? Is this possible? -- Flockmeal 03:59, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Does "asdfjkl" mean anything? -SV
Does "asdfjkl" mean anything? -SV
I am want to know how to submit a new page.
Having just switched to en2, I've noticed that the bookmark icon (also used in Mozilla et al. for tabs) differs between the servers; which one is intended -
en2's or
www's?
James F. 22:59, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I tried to post on wiki-L; but to to avail -- it is clogged with logo spam. When I go "offsite", perhaps by google search perhaps by viewing a mailing list -- I am then logged out. When I return to the login page I am autologged in...but first I have to return there -- why am I not continuously logged in? LirQ
All of a sudden, the upload file page is giving me this error message: "Sorry, uploads have been disabled on this server." Anyone know anything about this? Tannin 10:35, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I'm confused. I uploaded two images earlier this afternoon, for whom the pages still exist (and the pictures WORKED earlier today), but the links are broken now if I try to inline the image. They are: media:Dealey-plaza-annotated-thumbnail.png and media:Dealey-plaza-annotated.png. Am I missing something? Was something done to them?
(I don't know the proper way to actually put in a link to an image 'information' page rather than inserting the whole dang thing in - I used 'media' to do what I just did; but in any case, I'm sure this gets the idea across).
Skybunny 05:30, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Oh, en2.wikipedia.org is so fast! Every article is loaded just like ordinary web pages. Amazing. This shows how much wikipedia is heavily loaded. Anyway, thank you for setting up this. I only hope this lasts for long time. -- Taku 04:39, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I just found the page Lists of postal and zip codes of the world. It links to many long or extremely incomplete zip code listings. I have nothing against lists, but this is just too much. LDan 22:16, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
How about allowing a user who uses Watchlist to make use of the <diff> function seen in recent Changes? Also, my account has a habit of logging me out. LirQ
How are feature requests akin to bug reports? LirQ
It appears that http://nupedia.org and http://nupedia.com are both gone, which is a great pity because I was trying to port across some of the articles in process, see Wikipedia:Nupedia and Wikipedia. There was no mention that this site was going to disappear, no announcement that it was about to go. Most unceremonius.
In discussion with Jimbo and Mav, see Wikipedia talk:Nupedia and Wikipedia it appears that I could port the old articles in progress under the GFDL, further, there were actually at least one officially posted article that hadn't been transferred at all. Not mention all the attribution links for the source material, history of Nupedia, etc. that are now gone and old contributors to Nupedia might be a little miffed about this. Can we get it back please (at very least the content of the database so I can continue the port)? I certainly hope something like this doesn't happen to wikipedia some day. -- Lexor 11:24, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Yes, I know. Im back to all my old trouble causing tricks. First talk bubbles, now this. When the wiki is using the google engine, why not have the search automatically go there -- rather than first making one confirm that they actually want to search? In fact, why not always use the google engine (at least until the server issues are resolved) -- my problems seem to usually go away as soon as the switch to google is made. (well, not really -- i still get lots of lag) LirQ
I am trying to develop a mini-application to keep track of my Wikipedia edit count. I noticed that the data I got from using the unix "curl" command was giving me a substantially higher count than the source that I copied out of my web browser. I finally realized that the issue at hand is that the Contributions page for some reason shows less contributions when I am logged in vs. when I am logged out! What is the reason for this and can I fix it? Ed Cormany 03:53, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)
How do I change my User name without losing continuity of my homepage etc? I am beginning to think that constantly citing myself as "Dr Adam Carr" looks rather formal and pretentious. Could someone who knows how to do this change me to just "Adam Carr"? Thanx. 210.10.32.12 08:36, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC) Oops that should be Dr Adam Carr 08:41, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC) (I am STILL getting logged out when I press "Save Page" and I know I am not alone in this problem).
Would somebody please protect privatization. There is an edit war. LirQ
Personally I feel that if you can't be bothered to explain and discuss your edits, then you shouldn't be bothered to engage in edit war over them. Jaw-jaw is better than war war. Martin 17:09, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Moved to Wikipedia:Village pump/October 2003 archive 1
Please remember to write a brief summary when you do your edits. This makes life a lot easier for all of us when we look at page histories and recent changes. thanks! Kingturtle 19:02, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Moved to www/en2_dichotomy
User known as Mir Harven warned on talk page of Ustashe that "This page will be completely changed in near future, say, two weeks". I ask that some of experienced users put the page on their watchlists, as it is excellent NPOV. You suceeded in making two Serbs and two Croats to agree on this topic :) and I would hate to see it completely changed, especially by someone like MH (and don't intend allowing that anyway). Nikola 07:28, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
How can I set my watchlist to always check over the past day, rather than the past hour? LirQ
Yah, Ive got it bookmarked. But now Im wondering why I have to have it bookmarked. It didnt use to be that way. LirQ
Newbie question, but what's the best way to go about determining whether there is enough consensus to end a neutrality dispute?
I'm thinking in particular of Argument from Ignorance, where the dispute was over the examples used. I think that I've put things into a state which deals with the objections raised in the talk page.
Should I be posting directly to the user talk pages of everyone involved, or is it sufficient just to leave a comment on the talk page for the article and remove the NPOV marker if nobody has objected after a few days? Or is there some kind of defined process for this that I've missed?
-- Onebyone 20:13, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I'm having trouble getting File:Grouse.JPG to display. Vancouverguy 00:57, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
With the standard skin, there is always a Go button that will take me directly to an article. With the Cologne Blue skin, there is only a find entry with an OK button. This is annoying, especially when it says that searches can't be run due to high server load.
Is there a way to get a Go button to appear with Cologne Blue ? Olathe 4 Oct 2003
See wikipedia:bug reports to report bugs and request features. Martin 13:15, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Could some sysop delete the existing redirect pages Réunion and Supercentenarian so that La Réunion and Super-centenarian can be moved there? Thanks. -- Wik 03:26, Oct 4, 2003 (UTC)
www.4reference.net is using wikipedia contents. They also use wikipedia images, but they don't provide any link to the Image: page. IMO a serious issue as they don't provide any license information for picture.
Some pics are GFDL like on : http://www.4reference.net/encyclopedias/wikipedia/Nice_Observatory.html
but other aren't like on : http://www.4reference.net/encyclopedias/wikipedia/Tank_history.html
what's your advice ? Ericd 20:58, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
As you may have noticed, I took it upon myself to get rid of gratuitous references to Horace Donisthorpe over the last couple of days from someone who was making a bunch of wacky and obnoxious edits (see Vandalism in progress). I (foolishly) thought I was "successful," but now User:80.255 (the same person who posted as User:80.225.79.69, User:80.225.73.197, and User:80.225.16.87) and is doing a more subtle (and admittedly less annoying) set of edits, and is still creating a few stubby pages that just seem to refer to each other for the most part...
So here's my question: I'm still pretty new, and am not sure how much I'm being helpful, just being a stubborn geek, if I'm alienating (more or less) a valuable member of the Wikipedia community or if I'm just encouraging someone's trolling. Should I just ignore this person (forever? for a week?) or should I allow my righteous indignation to lead me onward in the struggle against petty vandalism? Thanks in advance for your advice, -- Bcorr 03:24, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
P.S. Here's what I mean: User_talk:80.255 -- Bcorr 03:26, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I wasn't watching 80.225 in particular, but I noticed that 82.34.176.94 had just repaired the Neo-Nazism page: (here's the edit), which was noted as "replaced sneakily removed *The British National Party" -- Bcorr 18:00, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I type my e-mail address in most times I have to login (for what ever reason). I have never typed an invalid address into the field or actively blanked it. Nor have I checked the box that says "do not contact me by email". And yet someone couldn't reach me by email. I also tried to e-mail him, going straight from a login where I added my e-mail address into the appropriate field, and then went to send him an e-mail...
It told me I hadn't specified a valid return address, so it wouldn't even allow me to start editing an e-mail. I went to preferences, typed my e-mail address again, and returned. This time I was allowed to start typing the letter. But after finishing it and clicking "send", I only got the same error message telling me I hadn't specified a valid return address. Is this one of the side-effects of the "server-dichotomy", is there a cookie-problem in my end, or is the E-mail a user function broken? -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick
Yes, and yes. But I didn't think the logging out was anything other than an epiphenomenon of the new server arrangements. Maybe I have to see to my mozilla settings... -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick 23:58, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)
"Discussion" on the ban of EntmootofTrolls moved to User talk:EntmootsOfTrolls/ban
I've proposed an alteration to our (rather sketchy and underdefined) banning procedures at Wikipedia:Bans and blocks, to mirror a similar, highly successful, h2g2 policy. I beg for feedback on the relevant talk page. Martin 23:35, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Could someone look at Herschel Grynszpan and tell me why my photo is not appearing? Adam
OK it is working now. Thanx. Adam
I keep getting logged out, depsite checking the remember my password between sessions thing. Anyone having similar trouble? Mintguy 21:56, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
According to recent changes, it has been Requested articles week for quite some time... LirQ
How do I add add syntax/source highlighting into my edits? I have looked around but cannot seem to locate the correct reference.
I am familiar with the process of banning a user. What is the process to un-ban a user? And are un-banned users on in sort of probationary period? Kingturtle 23:24, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I am want to know how to submit a new page.
I note that the math markup does not seem to work in Alternating current and exponential growth. Is this a coincidence? Tiles 06:30, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
to be deleted
Don't Google hits/ links lead to the latest version of a Wikipedia article? I added a lot of info to a page yesterday since it was in the first page of Google hits. But today when I followed the Google link to the page it was in the same state as before my editing- though the address bar in IE is the same for both direct Wikipedia and link from Google. KRS 05:34, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I'm sure this has a very simple answer. I'm deciding whether to split an article. How can I find the size of the article? (it's not a new page). jimfbleak 11:12, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
or count each letter one by one to see the approx byte size. ;-) -fonzy
Plese forgive me if this is not the right place for this, but I'm going round in circles trying to find anywhere more appropriate (though I've visited Wikipedia on plenty of occasions, I'm still a bit of a newbie as far as contribs go).
I just stumbled across the subtle energy page in the Special:Newpages section. Having a background in physics, I am disturbed by its content, but am unsure about what action to take.
The article makes many claims that are difficult to address as the author uses terms like 'Etheric world', 'the worlds preceding [the Etheric world]' and 'proper world', etc., without explaining what these are supposed to mean.
Most concerning, however, are its claims regarding science:
Scientists refer to Subtle Energy as Dark Energy.
According to both ancient and modern sciences, the Subtle Energy of the Etheric world does not interact with physical matter directly.
...energetic processes in our world such as electric and magnetic vibrations and electromagnetic waves definitely initiate vibrations in the energy fields of the Etheric world and of all preceding worlds. [my emphasis]
(Sorry, I've pretty much quoted the whole article there!)
The article uses a reference by Yury Kronn that is questionable in itself. It seems confused over the distinction between the astrophysical concepts of 'dark energy' and 'dark matter'—this is not surprising given that the refernces relevant to such discussion are popular science or press accounts. I would be surprised if the paper has been peer reviewed—indeed, it has 'working draft' on it!
Since I can't follow much of the article, and object to the claims that I can decipher, I'm not sure what action I can take (as tempting as it is to get rid of the whole thing!). I don't wish to deny someone the right to propose a point of view, but this does article does not seem to live up to the NPOV standards of Wikipedia, and its claims pertaining to science are incorrect as I interpret them. Should I instead stick a disputed tag on it?
Perhaps I should have put this on the Talk:Subtle energy page, but I don't know how regularly such a place would be visited. Also, I wonder how similar articles should be approached. Thanks :) Ajr 13:38, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
HTH. Martin 13:39, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Can anyone recommend a decent free program that draws chemical structures. One that's not too hard and runs under Windows or Linux would be great. ThereIsNoSteve 05:29, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
When describing material on VfD, is this term useful or useless? Express your opinion at Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy#Unencyclopedic. -- Cyan 07:53, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Please can a Wikipedian who is good at picture code-writing go to EasyJet and put the two pics side by side, I don't know how to. If I just put the two sets of code one below the other I get the pics one below the other which looks clumsy. Thanks.
Adrian Pingstone 19:23, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
How can I make an a with a dash above it, or an n with a dot above it? Lirath Q. Pynnor
I believe they are used in the anglicization of Sanskrit. Lirath Q. Pynnor
Wouldn't it be a good idea to have an
Wikipedia:Edit war article, of course redirected from
Edit war and
Edit wars, which could be used when warning newbies for engaging in such activities?
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Ruhrjung 16:04, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
The English Wikipedia's new logo has got a problem: it's 33.75kb, which means it takes a lonngg time to load on slower connections. Crusadeonilliteracy 01:44, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Does "asdfjkl" mean anything? -SV
To VfD
deleted - done
Could some sysop delete the existing redirect pages Réunion and Supercentenarian so that La Réunion and Super-centenarian can be moved there? Thanks. -- Wik 03:26, Oct 4, 2003 (UTC)
The pages linked to from Wikipedia:Mailing lists for signing up for mailing lists return a 404. Eg http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l. Can someone who knows what's wrong correct this? Thanks, snoyes 16:25, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I'm having trouble getting Grouse.JPG, as well as a number of other pictures to display. Vancouverguy 00:57, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
It's probably the situation discribed earlier in the page. Vancouverguy 01:15, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
To Talk:Lists of postal and zip codes of the world/Delete
OK well i don't really understand the explanations of why the image upload isn't working and why Wikipedia goes offline in the afternoon (my time) every day, but then I rarely understand explanations of this kind of thing - I guess that's why I'm a historian :) Does anyone know when the photo upload will be fixed? Adam 16:35, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
How do I have my nickname and the time/date appear after my messages, like other posers have?
How do I have my nickname and the time/date appear after my messages, like other posers have?
What was that long server crash all about G-Man 22:39, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I found this idea is great when the table is short, but quite annoying when there is a long alphabet list in some pages, which makes the whole page look .... My suggestion is, could we have more styles of that table, in some pages, like a list according to alphabet, we can use a style called 'ALPHABET_TABLE' instead of that style (automatically creat a table like that in List of Hong Kong-related topics). And a 'HORIZONTAL_TABLE' (good for List of colleges and universities by country). -- Gboy 05:51, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Hey now, I know that it takes money to run things, but annoying people isn't going to cut it. If there are no funds, let's just close up shop. I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be free. Having one link on the main page is enough. Those who have enough money and want to do so, will do so. So, save the last chunk of change for the bandwidth costs of downloading the data dumps, and don't resort to these sort of things. Every time I see this sort of badgering on other sites, it is a sign of things going downhill. Pretty soon, you have small adds, popups, big adds, subscriptions, etc. I don't like to feel like a useless bum, but I don't have any money. All I have is the time to donate, and I am not asking any donations for that, so why are you guys asking money from me on every page? It is very annoying, and it seems like a last ditch effort before the ship sinks.-- Dori 03:27, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Word, I agree. Kind of scared myself.
Whether you like it or not, Wikipedia/ Wikimedia will be funded by donations in the coming years -- that's the whole point of the non-profit foundation. The fundraising slogan will only remain below the subtitle until we have the money to buy our new server. I have asked Jimbo Wales to provide regular updates on our donation progress. If I'm not mistaken, Tim has recently made updates to the software which would allow the subtitle to be collaboratively edited. —Eloquence 10:48, Oct 6, 2003 (UTC)
Well, I can see that I am the only one that feels this way so I will just shut up and hope that Wikipedia doesn't go down the drain. I never said I had a problem with donations, but only that it shouldn't be done so that it bothers users, the primary focus should be on the information. Above, I also mentioned that I could deal with just the one line, but that in my opinion it would not be enough, and I could see further intrusions coming in the same spirit of that one line. Anyway, I didn't mean for this to become a flamefest, and I apologize if I offended anyone. By the way Tim, I am a guy :) -- Dori 12:39, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
The most recent edit to the Suez Crisis as I write looks very dubious. Diff here. Could a knowledgable person set my mind at rest and revert this if necessary? Pete 09:23, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)
If you're here, you've probably already noticed that www.wikipedia.org is down while en2.wikipedia.org is up. Larousse is down, don't know why. Jason's trying to reboot it now. -- Brion 04:52, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
deleted - done
Has something happened to the wiki-list? I have received no email on it since 1 October. If anyone knows what is happening could they please tell me, and put me back on the list? Please. (I need my wiki-list fix badly!!!) :-) FearÉIREANN 01:48, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Thanks Menchi. I did a clearout of some old messages but I double checked back in the trash to see if I had inadvertently deleted an important page, and nothing came up. I was away for some days and got spammed with piles of junk. That may have been the problem. I have applied under a new email account that is almost empty (and so far spamless!) lol .
FearÉIREANN 02:17, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
To Talk:Lists of postal and zip codes of the world/Delete
The new message attached with the Service Temporarily Unavailable message:
Is much better than the previous message used. I had thought that the Unavailability was because of something wrong with wikipedia; turns out, it was because of something *I* was doing. When I am in the mood to do proofreading, I use the "Random Page" feature. Sometimes, while scanning words, I will click on "Random Page" 3 or 4 times in the span of 10 or 15 seconds. Now I know that I have to slow my "Random Page" rate down. My question is...What is the fastest rate I can use the "Random Page" feature without losing service temporarily? Or is this information held secret because a spider-author might read this? In any case, props to whomever wrote the new message. It is much more informative to users. Kingturtle 15:32, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Could someone look at Parliament House, Canberra and tell me what I am doing wrong with my photos? Thanx Adam 13:33, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Anyone know what's up with Google? It seems to have been down for ages (for me anyway). Not having it available is certainly showing how much I rely upon it. Mintguy 11:06, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
i have no probelms either (with ".com" or ".co.uk"). -fonzy
Hm.. seems to be a DNS problem. My PC is trying to find gooogle on 207.44.220.31, which times out before I ping it and an IP lookup show it to be ns1.sitething.net. Looking up www.google.com on http://www.dns-tools.com/ gives me 216.239.51.99
I just wanted to writhe the same - see [7] for a description of this troyan. andy 19:37, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I remember having seen guidelines and/or discussions relative to:
With the multiplication of guideline and talk pages, I cannot find these references. Could anyone help me spotting them? If no such discussion/guideline really exist, where should they be started? Thanks. olivier 13:36, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
For titles: ==Titles <i>can be italicized</i>== or in text:'''''Italicized'''''. Alex756 15:27, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Any reason why TeX has been stuffing up recently? Some probably valid TeX isn't rendering properly; only the alt text is showing up (the TeX code)...
This idea came to my mind: We should have special consultants for specific topics. For example, if an administrator is a lawyer or a law connseur, every article that has to do with law should be sent to that person for revision..what do you guys think? -- Antonio Who's that girl? Quien es esa nina, senorita presumida? Martin
Interesting idea, not least because a special consultant would have a good idea of what other articles and lists need a link to the new article. It's also trivial to implement, the simplest I can think being a discussion page per topic on which the self-declared consultants list new articles as they appear along with comments ranging from "looks fine to me" through "we should lobby to have this user banned" ;-). The danger is if consultants start to feel possessive about their topics, or if they feel they are the definitive Wikipedia authority on the subject. It's not much more of a danger than there is already, since anyone who chooses can already decide to police a particular topic. Pick one topic and do it, see if it flies. -- Onebyone 13:50, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I just discovered another online encyclopedia, http://www.internet-encyclopedia.org/ that looks a lot like Wikipedia. They must have even copied the source code. But it also looks inferior. My concern is that if everyone starts their own encyclopedia, will that somehow cast a dark shadow on these sites that could spill over to Wikipedia? I know that eBay had a lot of copycats but survived and is still the number one auction site. But they are a for-profit company and have the resources to excel. How can Wikipedia protect itself from these clones? - Fernkes 01:30, Oct 2, 2003 (UTC)
Hi. All text in Francis Drake was deleted today by User:212.81.200.14 (I reverted that change). It might have been an accident; can there be (or is there already?) some warning when you are about to do this? Also, maybe some special mark for such edits could be placed in the "Recent changes" list, so that people can notice and check easily. Colin Marquardt 13:16, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
While working through the Wikipedia:Orphaned Articles I found the article St. Patrick's Day Parade with a wrong title which made it an orphan. After moving it to the right place it still was an orphan, even though History of New York City links there. Some minutes later that article showed up on the What links here list - but the link in History of New York stays red. But when I press it I get to the right article, in edit mode of course. I had a similar case yesterday with the Rambot article O'Hara Township, Pennsylvania, where the link in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania is red as well - the only similarity I can find is that both have a ' in the title. And yes, I cleared my cache several times already. Any idea what this bug can be. Will it fix itself with a database integrity run? andy 12:14, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Why do I get so many 'server overloads' when I try searching for any article? It would seem to me that the problem may be lack of bandwidth. If that is the problem then why is it not being dealt with?
An IP user User:64.230.131.102 has put a four-way compass navigation at the bottom of various Canadian city articles, such as Montreal, Quebec and Toronto, Ontario. While I actually find it kind of interesting to find out about other geographically close cities, is there a precedent for doing it this way? Pros/cons? Fuzheado 05:59, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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Should the encyclopedia be consistent in noun-pronoun relationships, and if so, what should be the accepted practice? For example: In "A musician plays his instrument" or "A musician plays her instrument" the noun and pronoun agree, but people might be offended by the perceived exclusion of one sex (assuming of course that we don't know who the musician is.) "A musician plays their instrument" is a construct often seen today, but one which grates on some people. "Musicians play their instruments" meets both objections, but isn't always a possible formation.
Any ideas or guidance on this? -- User:Dolbier October 1, 2003.
Singular they is fine, but everytime so-called gender-neutral pronouns are mentioned on wiki, most people (and it includes me) feel like throwing up. They have all the linguistic beauty and attractiveness of a large fart and make many on wiki want to throw up. Please, please don't use those appalling linguistic bastardisations. FearÉIREANN 01:42, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
BTW - so-called gender-neutral pronouns are also largely un-used by most english speakers worldwide and so even from the point of view of comprehendability should never be used on wiki.
move to talk:Homophobic hate speech
So where do I go to get an article like Homophobic hate speech rewritten? It doesn't belong on Votes for Deletion, because the article itself doesn't need to be deleted. It doesn't need to go on the page listing POV articles, because it isn't the POV that I'm objecting to. It's the use of a single term which takes up 1/3 of the entire article, in graphic detail. There are tons of other offensive terms that could be listed here, let's not be minimalists, let's go with all of them, okay? And then we can have Offensive terms for Jews and Offensive terms for Italians and Offensive terms for African Americans, etc. I seem to recall List of offensive terms for Germans having gotten deleted at some point. So why does this one term, on this page, keep getting re-added, when other offensive terms for gays are not included, and why are we not coming up with exhaustive pages of offensive terms for every other group in the world? RickK 03:10, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)
What is this Anon 64.174 doing: "Update cache"? Later on, Anon 165.196 started doing the same thing too [11]. -- Menchi 04:45, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Is there not a way for a developer to do this automatically? The problem I have with it is it may be wasting people's time as he is doing it with often-bookmarked pages, meaning people need to check the whole history of each page to see if any actual changes have been made. Also, it is being done mostly with pages that anons are not likely to see - ie those in the Wikipedia namespace. As most people come to main article pages via Google, I don't think it is worthwhile. I don't know who the anon is, but it is an IP that mav has used in the past. Is it mav? Why is it being done anonymously? Angela 06:05, Oct 10, 2003 (UTC)
If a particular image is found displayed on multiple websites does that qualify it as public domain as opposed to copyrighted? SD6-Agent 07:02, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
So I can't just grab an image from another website which has no copyright notice? SD6-Agent 15:50, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Copyright laws vary by country. Check what country that website belongs to. Some countries, at least Japan, require no copyright notice for works to be copyrighted; no notice means that is copyrighted. Besides, not every country adapts the concept of public domain. In Japan, for instance, there is no public domain. -- Taku
Aside from the mind-numbing server slowdowns of the last few weeks, it now appears that typing www.wikipedia.org doesn't go to wikipedia, but to some generic and content-free wikimedia page. Good luck trying to navigate your way back to wikipedia... and even better luck trying to follow a pre-existing link (e.g. from google). Newcomers will probably just give up. Mbstone 01:29, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Let www.wikipedia.org go to en.wikipedia.org...I don't like having to click 10 links to get back.
What was that long server crash all about G-Man 22:39, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
File upload is still down for english wikipedia (both www/en2). -- Dori 23:01, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I asked earlier why image uploading was not working but I didn't seem to get a streightforward answer. Could anyone englighten me? Also, how do I have my nickname and the time/date appear after my messages, like other posers have?
Thanks.. hmm it does post my nickname but not the date/time stamp
I don't know whether this really matters, but I mistakenly marked an edit minor. I was multitasking while working on Earendil, and forgot that I'd made some substantive changes. If it's possible, and if a developer thinks it necessary, please remove the minor flag and delete the edit summary. - Smack 06:45, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
What is the policy of linking to eg newspaper articles which are not easily available. 'Easily available' meaning: A) needing to register with the website before being able to view the content; B) needing to pay to view the content. There is nothing stated in Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines. An example of A would be articles at the New York Times generally. An example of A & B would be articles in the NYT archives. For example National Palace Museum links to an article in the NYT archives. Should this link be deleted? Should all NYT links be deleted (and to other websites requiring registration)? Thanks, snoyes 02:28, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
On a related topic, is there someway to scan for broken external links? I've fixed a few myself, but it would be nice if there's a list of broken external links we can fix. Samw 02:40, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Perhaps this is not the correct place to bring this up, but I noticed some strange things on my personal preferences page. Firstly, the "Your e-mail" has a star (*) after it, but there is no 'key' to this. There is another field that has a star after it ("Offset", under time settings), but this has a key adding more information. Either the star for the email option should be removed, or a different symbol used and an explanatory key inserted. Secondly, the email address is not displayed in the relevant box. Is this meant to be so, or a bug? Cheers, snoyes 16:15, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
When I click an 'Upload image' link it tells me the feature is disabled. Will it be enabled any time soon?
Why is the photo upload not working?
Why does Wikipedia go offline every afternoon?
Adam 12:19, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
to be deleted
With the standard skin, there is always a Go button that will take me directly to an article. With the Cologne Blue skin, there is only a find entry with an OK button. This is annoying, especially when it says that searches can't be run due to high server load.
Is there a way to get a Go button to appear with Cologne Blue ? Olathe 4 Oct 2003
See wikipedia:bug reports to report bugs and request features. Martin 13:15, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I just finished a massive edit on portable stove. In the process, I carved up some pre-existing content about solid-fuel stoves. That content had been added by a single user. My intent was to message that user and get him/her to correct my work, but that user ( Kat) has since left the wiki. So consider this a cry for help. The article's coverage of solid-fuel stoves is in very bad shape. It had been interspersed throughout the article until my restructuring effort, and it looked fine in that capacity, but now that I brought it together, it's rather subpar. - Smack 01:57, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Fairfield
SD6-Agent 02:24, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)