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A track listing for a various artists compilation album is not a suitable topic for a navbox. Songs/artists have nothing in common with each other other than their appearance here. --
woodensuperman 14:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, this is the sort of information that belongs in an article's body, not as a nav template. Warren-talk- 15:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete per above. Only a couple of the songs that have articles were even written for the film. Actual usefulness of this navbox is quite limited. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:35, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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Star Wars film navigational boxes
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delete, better to use the other navboxes.
Frietjes (
talk) 22:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, looks like a case of someone not understanding what navigation templates are for. The editor who created these templates hasn't really done much else on Wikipedia except for create these templates and insert them into dozens of articles. Warren-talk- 15:18, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
If you mean user Dmoon1, who created the early templates in 2006, not true. He or she, who hasn't edited since 2009, seems like they were a very active editor in many subject areas.
Randy Kryn (
talk) 11:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
I think Warren was talking about
Qäsee, who created the last four templates on this list (the most recent). This editor is indeed persistent with crufty templates, categories, and article content (and no edit summaries, EVER), but in this case there was a seven-film precedent of existing templates before he/she started creating and implementing them.—
TAnthonyTalk 15:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, agree with nom. No need for these individual nav templates for each film when the other Star Wars templates cover everything. -
Brojam (
talk) 06:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep for now (struck per reply), the claim is that everything on these templates is a duplicate, a very quick look at just the first template brings up
Han shot first. Where else is this listed? And this would give deletionists the "reason" to remove Star Wars templates from individual books, fan films, etc. with the claim that items on lists aren't actually listed on the templates (a Catch-22 of a reason that they somehow got into the guidelines as 'biodirectional' or something), so this could mean a mass removal of any Star Wars templates from articles.
Randy Kryn (
talk) 11:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Anything like this that is not in another navbox could be added to the main {{Star Wars}} navbox, or one of the other navboxes if this is more appropriate. Books and fan films, etc, already have dedicated navboxes. I've just spotted that Star Wars Uncut also isn't on another navbox, this would appropriately be added to {{Unofficial Star Wars media}}. --
woodensuperman 12:08, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Okay, and good find on the uncut film. I'll put the 'Han shot first' page on the main template and see what occurs (EDIT: It fits well as a subsection).
Randy Kryn (
talk) 12:23, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Thanks for catching these wayward links, there shouldn't be (m)any more!—
TAnthonyTalk 15:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Nah, the planets and moons is a well-defined topic.
Mos Eisley Cantina seems iconic enough to belong on the main template. In fact, there are only 11 entries on the Planets and moons template, why not bring those to the main and jettison that one too so the planets and moon articles can have the main template and not a small limited one.
Randy Kryn (
talk) 16:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, per nom. Clearly someone misunderstanding the purpose of navboxes.
Lazz_R 14:54, 16 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, I agree with nominator and other comments that these are creating unnecessary duplication.
Dunarc (
talk) 18:53, 16 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment, I do admit that these navboxes are very much duplicates to the main Star Wars navbox, but I think we need to set up some type of navboxes for Legends and Canon universes to avoid crowding one navbox.
BattleshipMan (
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The navbox is no longer necessary as all the links now redirect to a non-existent section that was culled for being fancruft. ZXCVBNM (
TALK) 05:44, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. Useless navbox, as each link redirects back to the main article.
JIP |
Talk 08:50, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
delete, all redirects.
Frietjes (
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A track listing for a various artists compilation album is not a suitable topic for a navbox. Songs/artists have nothing in common with each other other than their appearance here. --
woodensuperman 14:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, this is the sort of information that belongs in an article's body, not as a nav template. Warren-talk- 15:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete per above. Only a couple of the songs that have articles were even written for the film. Actual usefulness of this navbox is quite limited. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:35, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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Star Wars film navigational boxes
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delete, better to use the other navboxes.
Frietjes (
talk) 22:56, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, looks like a case of someone not understanding what navigation templates are for. The editor who created these templates hasn't really done much else on Wikipedia except for create these templates and insert them into dozens of articles. Warren-talk- 15:18, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
If you mean user Dmoon1, who created the early templates in 2006, not true. He or she, who hasn't edited since 2009, seems like they were a very active editor in many subject areas.
Randy Kryn (
talk) 11:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
I think Warren was talking about
Qäsee, who created the last four templates on this list (the most recent). This editor is indeed persistent with crufty templates, categories, and article content (and no edit summaries, EVER), but in this case there was a seven-film precedent of existing templates before he/she started creating and implementing them.—
TAnthonyTalk 15:46, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, agree with nom. No need for these individual nav templates for each film when the other Star Wars templates cover everything. -
Brojam (
talk) 06:12, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep for now (struck per reply), the claim is that everything on these templates is a duplicate, a very quick look at just the first template brings up
Han shot first. Where else is this listed? And this would give deletionists the "reason" to remove Star Wars templates from individual books, fan films, etc. with the claim that items on lists aren't actually listed on the templates (a Catch-22 of a reason that they somehow got into the guidelines as 'biodirectional' or something), so this could mean a mass removal of any Star Wars templates from articles.
Randy Kryn (
talk) 11:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Anything like this that is not in another navbox could be added to the main {{Star Wars}} navbox, or one of the other navboxes if this is more appropriate. Books and fan films, etc, already have dedicated navboxes. I've just spotted that Star Wars Uncut also isn't on another navbox, this would appropriately be added to {{Unofficial Star Wars media}}. --
woodensuperman 12:08, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Okay, and good find on the uncut film. I'll put the 'Han shot first' page on the main template and see what occurs (EDIT: It fits well as a subsection).
Randy Kryn (
talk) 12:23, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Thanks for catching these wayward links, there shouldn't be (m)any more!—
TAnthonyTalk 15:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Nah, the planets and moons is a well-defined topic.
Mos Eisley Cantina seems iconic enough to belong on the main template. In fact, there are only 11 entries on the Planets and moons template, why not bring those to the main and jettison that one too so the planets and moon articles can have the main template and not a small limited one.
Randy Kryn (
talk) 16:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, per nom. Clearly someone misunderstanding the purpose of navboxes.
Lazz_R 14:54, 16 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete, I agree with nominator and other comments that these are creating unnecessary duplication.
Dunarc (
talk) 18:53, 16 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment, I do admit that these navboxes are very much duplicates to the main Star Wars navbox, but I think we need to set up some type of navboxes for Legends and Canon universes to avoid crowding one navbox.
BattleshipMan (
talk) 08:40, 17 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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The navbox is no longer necessary as all the links now redirect to a non-existent section that was culled for being fancruft. ZXCVBNM (
TALK) 05:44, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. Useless navbox, as each link redirects back to the main article.
JIP |
Talk 08:50, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
delete, all redirects.
Frietjes (
talk) 22:55, 13 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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