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International organizations infoboxes

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Infobox Southern African Development Community ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox East African Community ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Recently created single use templates with no prospect for other uses. They are just {{ Infobox geopolitical organization}} with the parameters filled in for their respective articles. They should be substituted and deleted. See also these past discussions: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_August_11#Template:Infobox_European_Union and Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_August_12#Template:Infobox_African_Union. TDL ( talk) 23:52, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:Catalan grammar

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The result of the discussion was template does not exist  SporkBot ( talk) 02:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Catalan grammar ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only 2 links, can just go in {{ Catalan/Valencian cultural domain}}. — Lfdder ( talk) 23:35, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Make it like Spanish and it overlaps with Catalan/Valencian cultural domain. A sidebar with only the two links still is ridiculous. — Lfdder ( talk) 09:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply
Erm... So what should we do? {{ Catalan/Valencian cultural domain}} is more about culture, etc. A separate template for the language should be created. Do I create Template:Catalan analogous to Template:Spanish and then we delete Template:Catalan grammar? (anyway, it now has 3 links)-- Fauban 09:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply
I think it would be easier to make the changes to Catalan grammar and then just move it to {{ Catalan language}}. I'm just worried it'll overlap with {{ Catalan/Valencian cultural domain}} almost entirely (apart from the 3 extra links). — Lfdder ( talk) 09:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply
OK, I'm going to edit Template:Catalan grammar. I think {{ Catalan/Valencian cultural domain}} is too all-encompassing. It should be simplified. I'll clean it up too. Thanks!-- Fauban 09:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply
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Template:Pride of Philadelphia Award

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Pride of Philadelphia Award ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No navigational value, joins unrelated topics on the basis of winning a minor (defunct?) award. Already exists as a list at Philadelphia Sports Hall of Fame. Reso lute 23:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Creatures of the slime ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox refers to a stamp series which doesn't even have an article, cluttering articles on Ediacara biota. cyclopia speak! 18:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:RPI Engineers men's ice hockey roster

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:RPI Engineers men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lindenwood Lady Lions women's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Maine Black Bears men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Miami RedHawks men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Nebraska–Omaha Mavericks men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:North Dakota Fighting Sioux men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Northern Michigan Wildcats men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ohio State Buckeyes men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:RIT Tigers men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Robert Morris Colonials men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Yale Bulldogs men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

out of date and unused. Frietjes ( talk) 17:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Afro-Asiatic-speaking nations ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Template:Distribution of Iranian languages ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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WP:NENAN. Navboxes that link to country articles are, as a rule, a waste of space. — Lfdder ( talk) 14:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:Iranian-speaking regions

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:11, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Iranian-speaking regions ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

WP:NENAN. Navboxes that link to country articles are, as a rule, a waste of space. List could be added to the Iranian languages article. Only 9 transclusions (meaning it's not even used in half of the pages it links to). — Lfdder ( talk) 14:36, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:Iranian languages

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:09, 30 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Iranian languages ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{ Indo-Iranian languages}} / {{ Indo-Iranian languages|expanded=Modern Iranian}}. — Lfdder ( talk) 14:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:ERB

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:ERB ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Three creators. The "main guest role appearances" are articles that should not have this template on them, as Epic Rap Battles is not what they are mainly known for. And it definitely shouldn't be on the articles of any of the historical figures used. So take that away, and this only links three articles. Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 23:43, 11 August 2013 (UTC) reply


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Template:HB Scotland header

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The result of the discussion was Merged. Andrew Gray ( talk) 19:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:HB Scotland header ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:HS listed building header ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:HB Scotland row ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:HS listed building row ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:HB Scotland header with Template:HS listed building header.
Propose merging Template:HB Scotland row with Template:HS listed building row.
Redundant to each other. Merging will also help the imminent Wiki Loves Monuments process. NB the "HS" verison is only used five times on one page; "HB" everywhere else. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Agreed. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 13:17, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply
May the best template win! (not sure which one that is)
What needs to be added/removed/modified so we can go to one template? Multichill ( talk) 14:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply
"HS" does not currently support listing category; HB does (I think). Andrew Gray ( talk) 19:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply
...that said, HS is better featured - integral notes etc - and as has been pointed out to me we don't actually need to support listing category in most cases (we're using lists of A per area, B per area, etc). Support for commonscat in HS would be nice.
I've started converting over the A lists in Scotland and have been using the HS form. Happy for someone to merge back to the other if needed, but tempted to say check HS supports all fields in HB and then simply redirect. Andrew Gray ( talk) 21:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply
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Template:Cardiff listed building row

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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. While there is no express consensus to keep, the consensus is that the Template:Cardiff listed building row is not redundant. There's no reason to relist the discussion. There was no assertion that the template is WP:TFD#REASONS redundant to a better-designed template. As of this close, Template:Cardiff listed building row is only being used in the Listed buildings in Cardiff article. -- Jreferee ( talk) 10:53, 13 September 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Cardiff listed building row ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{ Cadw listed building row}}. Standardising will also help the imminent Wiki Loves Monuments process. Only three transclusions, all one one page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

  • From my hazy recollection, I adapted something like the table on the Listed buildings in Nantwich page. This also included the colour coded column, which is fairly standard across the other English list articles (I see WLM have also removed this from Listed buildings in Cardiff). I can understand the benefits of some sort of standardisation, though it seems innappropriate when it's driven by the needs of a photography competition! Sionk ( talk) 13:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC) reply
In case you are not aware, the competition itself is driven by the need to improve Wikipedia and its sister projects: see http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.uk/?p=68. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 13:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC) reply
You say you want to get more people involved with Wikipedia by uploading photos. Uploading photos is only one part of the project.
On the subject of the template, I think I'm saying I'd strongly oppose the standard, unsourced Cadw template (with excessive info about Cadw) being imposed on the Listed buildings in Cardiff article. For example, if people want to know Cadw listing codes or the full date of listing they can presumably visit the Cadw website. From the perspective of someone using Wikipedia for reference, we need to provide pertinent info about the listed buildings and a source to allow people to research further if need be. Sionk ( talk) 14:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC) reply
  • I think I've figured out a way around this; I'm going to rewrite them to use the same backend template code but keep the current display style for Cardiff. This will mean the database picks them up but won't affect the way the lists look. Rewriting the CADW template to be closer in what it shows to the Cardiff one may be a good idea as well. Andrew Gray ( talk) 20:32, 2 September 2013 (UTC) reply
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August 19

International organizations infoboxes

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Infobox Southern African Development Community ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox East African Community ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Recently created single use templates with no prospect for other uses. They are just {{ Infobox geopolitical organization}} with the parameters filled in for their respective articles. They should be substituted and deleted. See also these past discussions: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_August_11#Template:Infobox_European_Union and Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_August_12#Template:Infobox_African_Union. TDL ( talk) 23:52, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:Catalan grammar

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The result of the discussion was template does not exist  SporkBot ( talk) 02:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Catalan grammar ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Only 2 links, can just go in {{ Catalan/Valencian cultural domain}}. — Lfdder ( talk) 23:35, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Make it like Spanish and it overlaps with Catalan/Valencian cultural domain. A sidebar with only the two links still is ridiculous. — Lfdder ( talk) 09:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply
Erm... So what should we do? {{ Catalan/Valencian cultural domain}} is more about culture, etc. A separate template for the language should be created. Do I create Template:Catalan analogous to Template:Spanish and then we delete Template:Catalan grammar? (anyway, it now has 3 links)-- Fauban 09:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply
I think it would be easier to make the changes to Catalan grammar and then just move it to {{ Catalan language}}. I'm just worried it'll overlap with {{ Catalan/Valencian cultural domain}} almost entirely (apart from the 3 extra links). — Lfdder ( talk) 09:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply
OK, I'm going to edit Template:Catalan grammar. I think {{ Catalan/Valencian cultural domain}} is too all-encompassing. It should be simplified. I'll clean it up too. Thanks!-- Fauban 09:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC) reply
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Template:Pride of Philadelphia Award

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Pride of Philadelphia Award ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No navigational value, joins unrelated topics on the basis of winning a minor (defunct?) award. Already exists as a list at Philadelphia Sports Hall of Fame. Reso lute 23:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:Creatures of the slime

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Creatures of the slime ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox refers to a stamp series which doesn't even have an article, cluttering articles on Ediacara biota. cyclopia speak! 18:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:RPI Engineers men's ice hockey roster

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:RPI Engineers men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lindenwood Lady Lions women's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Maine Black Bears men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Miami RedHawks men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Nebraska–Omaha Mavericks men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:North Dakota Fighting Sioux men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Template:RIT Tigers men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Robert Morris Colonials men's ice hockey roster ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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out of date and unused. Frietjes ( talk) 17:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Regions, countries and territories by language templates

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Afro-Asiatic-speaking nations ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Austroasiatic-speaking ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Template:Distribution of Iranian languages ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Iranian-speaking regions ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Template:Official languages of South America ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

WP:NENAN. Navboxes that link to country articles are, as a rule, a waste of space. — Lfdder ( talk) 14:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:11, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Iranian-speaking regions ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

WP:NENAN. Navboxes that link to country articles are, as a rule, a waste of space. List could be added to the Iranian languages article. Only 9 transclusions (meaning it's not even used in half of the pages it links to). — Lfdder ( talk) 14:36, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:Iranian languages

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:09, 30 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Iranian languages ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{ Indo-Iranian languages}} / {{ Indo-Iranian languages|expanded=Modern Iranian}}. — Lfdder ( talk) 14:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was delete  Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:ERB ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Three creators. The "main guest role appearances" are articles that should not have this template on them, as Epic Rap Battles is not what they are mainly known for. And it definitely shouldn't be on the articles of any of the historical figures used. So take that away, and this only links three articles. Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 23:43, 11 August 2013 (UTC) reply


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ten Pound Hammer( What did I screw up now?) 14:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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Template:HB Scotland header

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The result of the discussion was Merged. Andrew Gray ( talk) 19:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:HB Scotland header ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:HS listed building header ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:HB Scotland row ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:HS listed building row ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:HB Scotland header with Template:HS listed building header.
Propose merging Template:HB Scotland row with Template:HS listed building row.
Redundant to each other. Merging will also help the imminent Wiki Loves Monuments process. NB the "HS" verison is only used five times on one page; "HB" everywhere else. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Agreed. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 13:17, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply
May the best template win! (not sure which one that is)
What needs to be added/removed/modified so we can go to one template? Multichill ( talk) 14:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply
"HS" does not currently support listing category; HB does (I think). Andrew Gray ( talk) 19:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply
...that said, HS is better featured - integral notes etc - and as has been pointed out to me we don't actually need to support listing category in most cases (we're using lists of A per area, B per area, etc). Support for commonscat in HS would be nice.
I've started converting over the A lists in Scotland and have been using the HS form. Happy for someone to merge back to the other if needed, but tempted to say check HS supports all fields in HB and then simply redirect. Andrew Gray ( talk) 21:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply
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Template:Cardiff listed building row

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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete. While there is no express consensus to keep, the consensus is that the Template:Cardiff listed building row is not redundant. There's no reason to relist the discussion. There was no assertion that the template is WP:TFD#REASONS redundant to a better-designed template. As of this close, Template:Cardiff listed building row is only being used in the Listed buildings in Cardiff article. -- Jreferee ( talk) 10:53, 13 September 2013 (UTC) reply

Template:Cardiff listed building row ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{ Cadw listed building row}}. Standardising will also help the imminent Wiki Loves Monuments process. Only three transclusions, all one one page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC) reply

  • From my hazy recollection, I adapted something like the table on the Listed buildings in Nantwich page. This also included the colour coded column, which is fairly standard across the other English list articles (I see WLM have also removed this from Listed buildings in Cardiff). I can understand the benefits of some sort of standardisation, though it seems innappropriate when it's driven by the needs of a photography competition! Sionk ( talk) 13:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC) reply
In case you are not aware, the competition itself is driven by the need to improve Wikipedia and its sister projects: see http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.uk/?p=68. -- MichaelMaggs ( talk) 13:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC) reply
You say you want to get more people involved with Wikipedia by uploading photos. Uploading photos is only one part of the project.
On the subject of the template, I think I'm saying I'd strongly oppose the standard, unsourced Cadw template (with excessive info about Cadw) being imposed on the Listed buildings in Cardiff article. For example, if people want to know Cadw listing codes or the full date of listing they can presumably visit the Cadw website. From the perspective of someone using Wikipedia for reference, we need to provide pertinent info about the listed buildings and a source to allow people to research further if need be. Sionk ( talk) 14:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC) reply
  • I think I've figured out a way around this; I'm going to rewrite them to use the same backend template code but keep the current display style for Cardiff. This will mean the database picks them up but won't affect the way the lists look. Rewriting the CADW template to be closer in what it shows to the Cardiff one may be a good idea as well. Andrew Gray ( talk) 20:32, 2 September 2013 (UTC) reply
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